Proof to put the 9/11 Truthers to bed in less than 2 mins

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Carl Pickens said:
Why the WTC then? It would be been much easier and less of a financial hit to pick another target.
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The play the infinite "mise en abyme" conspiracy game that several of our posters prefer, the target makes perfect sense for a American/Israeli/Nazi/Jew/NWO conspiracy.

What doesn't make sense though is taking the unnecessary additional risk of planting explosives in the towers just to ensure they fell. If it was indeed a conspiracy, the planes were a big enough risk and would have achieved the aims of the conspirators. The towers didn't need to come down to achieve their global agenda, and incurring the risk to do so by planting explosives would be one unnecessary additional measure that would increase the likelihood of eventual exposure.

But when you're a conspiracy theorist hammer, inconvenient truths are just a nail.

P.S. One poster said something about numerous eyewitnesses reporting hearing explosions at the time of the collapse. Do you think it's possible that a gigantic burning building could make "explosion-like" noises as it hurdled hundreds of feet to the ground?
 
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Pacer92 said:
It's useless trying to debate with people who don't have the capacity or willingness to see anything different. The official government story of 9/11 is outrageously full of holes, and most logical people, if interested, will delve into the subject and can see for themselves.

Instead, this contingent relies on blind faith that our government could never be compliant in anything that would harm US citizens in order to springboard their warmongering agenda.

It's the same people who defend our government for supporting the likes of ISIS and terrorist countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey. The same ones that unthinkingly absorb the Russophobia and islamophobia like sponges. The same ones that make Wile E. Coyote jokes because they have nothing else. It's useless...
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Let me guess - you think Oliver Stone's JFK is a documentary.
 
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What is the political leaning of the 9-11 truthers, left - middle - right or a combination?
 
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Gramps said:
What is the political leaning of the 9-11 truthers, left - middle - right or a combination?
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I'd say it's a good mix of all, because fear of the government is non-denominational. However, I'd wager that conspiracy thinking is often more endemic to the radical wings of each side, because those prone to "extremes" typically tend towards conspiratorial/paranoid thinking (i.e., everything is a plot against them). Far leftists may think it was done to achieve the capitalistic world order, while far rightists may think the same but concentrate more on the ethnic dimensions (like Jews and Zionists conspiring against the world, traditional ethnic groups, white people, etc.). For someone like Ras, who appears to me to be a far rightist, the latter would be applicable, although he's not a racist nationalist however dubious his thoughts about Jews may sometimes be.
 
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volprof said:
I'd say it's a good mix of all, because fear of the government is non-denominational. However, I'd wager that conspiracy thinking is often more endemic to the radical wings of each side. Far leftists may think it was done to achieve the capitalistic world order, while far rightists may think the same but concentrate more on the ethnic dimensions (like Jews and Zionists conspiring against the world, traditional ethnic groups, white people, etc.). For someone like Ras, who appears to me to be a far rightist, the latter would be applicable, although he's not a racist nationalist however dubious his thoughts about Jews may sometimes be.
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I thought Ras said he was planning on voting for Hillary. Am I wrong?
 
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Gramps said:
I thought Ras said he was planning on voting for Hillary. Am I wrong?
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No, you're right. He wants to do that though because he thinks it will be the quickest route to bankrupting the country and bringing us to our knees, that way we can go back to doing whatever it is he thinks our Founding Fathers were all about.

I'm not sure why he wouldn't support Trump though if that's his aim, because Trump looks like the sure thing. Hillary just looks like more of same ole', same ole' that will keep us staggering along in perpetuity. Trump can go ahead and just shoot us in the head.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I've never understood why so many people believe in a conspiracy about the collapse of the twin towers, and yes, building 7. Why not figure out why this country was attacked?
That reason is this governments meddling in the affairs of middle eastern countries. Blowback is a very real thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowback_(intelligence)
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My question for you would be, why did we attack Afghanistan and Iraq when the attackers on 9/11 were mostly Saudis?

If it truely was blowback, what has the US ever done to Saudia Arabia?
 
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volprof said:
No, you're right. He wants to do that though because he thinks it will be the quickest route to bankrupting the country and bringing us to our knees, that way we can go back to doing whatever it is he thinks our Founding Fathers were all about.

I'm not sure why he wouldn't support Trump though if that's his aim, because Trump looks like the sure thing. Hillary just looks like more of same ole', same ole' that will keep us staggering along in perpetuity. Trump can go ahead and just shoot us in the head.
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Wow... that is some line of thinking
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
My question for you would be, why did we attack Afghanistan and Iraq when the attackers on 9/11 were mostly Saudis?

If it truely was blowback, what has the US ever done to Saudia Arabia?
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Good question. I've wondered that myself.

According to Bin Laden, it was because the US had troops stationed in Saudi Arabia.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Good question. I've wondered that myself.

According to Bin Laden, it was because the US had troops stationed in Saudi Arabia.
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Well, his beef should have been with the House of Saud. And seems to me like the US has trated the bin Ladens better than anyone else... his family members got special treatment after the 9/11 attacks. We armed and funded him and the Mujahadeen in the 1980's... it just doesn't add up. Why bite the hand that feeds you?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well, his beef should have been with the House of Saud. And seems to me like the US has trated the bin Ladens better than anyone else... his family members got special treatment after the 9/11 attacks. We armed and funded him and the Mujahadeen in the 1980's... it just doesn't add up. Why bite the hand that feeds you?
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I don't know Ras. Trying to figure out US foreign policy is like trying to understand a 20 year old with daddy's credit card.

I will tell you this, the answers to 9/11 lay in the redacted 28 pages of the 9/11 report. A lot of folks seem to think it implicates Saudi Arabia in a big way.

Also, when looking into an actual conspiracy of 9/11, look into operation able danger.
 
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theFallGuy said:
I bet some of the truthers believe the Denver airport is a front for the New World Order with their underground tunnels
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I just heard about the Denver airport the other day. I was watching some sort of conspiracy thing and that was one of the segments.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Fire sweeps through Dubai skyscraper
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New Year’s Eve skyscraper fire in Dubai smolders into 2016

The fire started around 9:30 p.m. Thursday, racing up the sides of the building. Still, authorities went ahead with the fireworks show.

More than 12 hours later on Friday morning, Dubai firefighters largely watched the fire from the ground, unable at one point to use a water hose on a ladder truck. They later regained water pressure and resumed spraying the building.

By afternoon, the blaze had largely died down, but small fires were still visible burning through some windows, sending smoke into the air.
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