QB competition..

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

BS, CBJ said after the Alabama game that it was a coach's decision and not due to a leg injury.

QB 1) injured
QB 2) injured
QB 3) injured
QB 4) not injured

CBJ: "I choose number 4!"

Coach's decision indeed. I bet all of the other coaches concurred as well.

 

[Darth_Shiveman]

QB 1) injured
QB 2) injured
QB 3) injured
QB 4) not injured

CBJ: "I choose number 4!"

Coach's decision indeed. I bet all of the other coaches concurred as well.

Clearly pro QB 4

 

[Coug]

QB 1) injured
QB 2) injured
QB 3) injured
QB 4) not injured

CBJ: "I choose number 4!"

Coach's decision indeed. I bet all of the other coaches concurred as well.

Wow, if that's the case then I truly have to question CBJ's ability to judge QB's because his alleged last choice in your scenario sure out shined his number 2 choice didn't he?

 

[davethevol]

BS, CBJ said after the Alabama game that it was a coach's decision and not due to a leg injury.

Was that Alabama game this year?

On Feb 26, 2014 at a Big Orange Tipoff Club Butch confirmed that Riley would have played last year had he not been injured. His leg was still fractured leading into the Alabama game. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he's saying Riley would have started over Dobbs.

Butch Jones at the Big Orange Tipoff Club - YouTube

 

[sjt18]

I believe Justin Worley is our starting quarterback as it stands, but Ferguson still has time to take the job between now and August.

It is really just this simple. In fact, any of the other three still have time but it appears that Ferguson has closed the gap the most. It will not be difficult to notice when or if someone overtakes Worley. It could happen at any time or it might not happen at all.

 

[sjt18]

This:lolabove: Worley should do even better this season, right? Bet he does
But, on the other hand, why haven't the real Vols coaches(not us) named him the QB. Why is it not set in stone already?

The best answer anyone can give is the one that Jones repeats ad nauseum. They aren't about depth charts. They're about creating competition. It is apparently their thought that if they name a starter with the competition as close as it apparently is then three guys might lose some momentum.

There will come a day and a QB that is so obvious and distinctly the #1 QB that there will be no use denying it. There may be one at or near that level now however even if there is I doubt CBJ will announce it to the world until that player proves it against a live opponent next fall. It seems to be Jones' philosophy that you keep the competition or at least the illusion of it as amped up as possible.

 

[Cosmo]

Wow, if that's the case then I truly have to question CBJ's ability to judge QB's because his alleged last choice in your scenario sure out shined his number 2 choice didn't he?

I wouldn't look at it that way. We know that he really did not want to play Ferguson or Dobbs. He did everything that he could to preserve their redshirt status. Unfortunately, it just didn't work out.

 

[CoachClick]

Really hate to say it, but god help us if Worley is our best shot.

Like the guy, but his last season performance was horrible. His off-season progress better have been damn good.

...here's to him proving me wrong...

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

One thing is for sure. Whoever gets the starting spot, there will be a lot of "fans" left with a severe case of butthurt.

 

[gnm53108]

Really hate to say it, but god help us if Worley is our best shot.

Like the guy, but his last season performance was horrible. His off-season progress better have been damn good.

...here's to him proving me wrong...

In his last full start he was 19-34, 179 yrds, 1 td, 0 ints....against a top 10 team.

I hope he has improved too but he made quite a bit of progress last year.

 

[Ez_Vol]

QB 1) injured
QB 2) injured
QB 3) injured
QB 4) not injured

CBJ: "I choose number 4!"

Coach's decision indeed. I bet all of the other coaches concurred as well.

Well JMO, QB 4 outplayed QB 1 and QB 2 during game time, also, with not having your best player on the field and playing the top 2 of the top teams in the country.

RF said himself that he was able to come in if needed to. Don't get me wrong, I'm for whoever gives TN the best chance to win on the field.

 

[KBVol]

So when CBJ says something directly in favor of Ferguson you jump all over it and spread the word but when he says something directly in favor of Dobbs you try and say he was lying.

I love it, it's so funny.

What did CBJ say in favor of Josh? If he'd said it, I would've posted it here. I love Dobbs and have defended his play from last year many times on here. There's one particular poster that seems to hate the kid and I've gone rounds with him outlining how well Dobbs actually played vs Bama, especially vs Mizzou and how he even scored the game winning td vs Vandy had it not been for Pig. You haven't seen those posts I guess. I personally was hoping that the 2 young guys Dobbs and Ferguson were gonna be 1 and 2 but it doesn't appear to be playing out that way.

I've felt a need to post the truth on here about who's getting the team 1 reps because there appears to be so many uninformed opinions on here. One guy actually said he's sure the starting QB decision for Butch boils down to Peterman and Dobbs (the 2 that are getting the reps with the 2s) because Butch "knows what he has with those guys".... and that Worley is the 'wildcard'. What?!?

All I've done in here is try to be objective about where the QB race stands right now based SOLELY on what I've read and heard from who I consider reliable sources. If Dobbs was splitting team 1 reps with Worley that's exactly what I would post on here, along with others I'm sure. Right now, it's clearly Worley 1 and Ferguson 2.... just heard Hyams say it again on 104.5 in Nashville.

Finally, the reason I think Ferguson was gonna play before Josh last year is because of CBJs decision to include him on the Florida traveling squad and not Dobbs. CBJ could give all the coach speak he wanted but his actions told where the 2 were on the depth chart. It's also only logical to assume that had Riley not suffered the stress fracture that he would've run started the 2nd half vs Bama and not Josh. That being said, I was thrilled with how Dobbs played that half vs Bama and I saw a lot of potential in him last year. Believe it or not, I'm a big Josh Dobbs fan and my past posts about him prove it.

 

[VolAllen]

Well JMO, QB 4 outplayed QB 1 and QB 2 during game time, also, with not having your best player on the field and playing the top 2 of the top teams in the country.

RF said himself that he was able to come in if needed to. Don't get me wrong, I'm for whoever gives TN the best chance to win on the field.

Dobbs was NOT better than Worley. Worley would have beaten Vandy, and taken us bowling had he not gotten injured.

 

[sjt18]

Well JMO, QB 4 outplayed QB 1 and QB 2 during game time, also, with not having your best player on the field and playing the top 2 of the top teams in the country.

RF said himself that he was able to come in if needed to. Don't get me wrong, I'm for whoever gives TN the best chance to win on the field.

Auburn's win over Bama to make the NC was a fluke... let's be honest. Further, they didn't get there because they had a great D. By far and away Worley faced the best D's on UT's schedule last year.

As someone said, UT beats Vandy with Worley. They have a much better shot at Mizzou. Dobbs' mistakes and difficulty in managing the O were huge factors.

I like Dobbs. I think he has great potential. I think he's more physically gifted overall than Worley. He was not a better QB than Worley last year or apparently now.

Even if RF said that it would have been profoundedly stupid for UT to run a true Fr QB out on the field for his first game action at less than 100% fitness.

 

[KBVol]

Well JMO, QB 4 outplayed QB 1 and QB 2 during game time, also, with not having your best player on the field and playing the top 2 of the top teams in the country.

RF said himself that he was able to come in if needed to. Don't get me wrong, I'm for whoever gives TN the best chance to win on the field.

Ferguson has only said that he was only healthy for the Kentucky game and there was no way CBJ was gonna burn his redshirt at that point. Dobbs played very well vs Ky and was more than good enough to beat them handily.

 

[KBVol]

So when CBJ says something directly in favor of Ferguson you jump all over it and spread the word but when he says something directly in favor of Dobbs you try and say he was lying.

I love it, it's so funny.

Here..... these are the twitter posts Freak posted from Thursday. Am I being biased for Ferguson and against Dobbs here?

. @UTCoachJones i was really disappointed n QB group today. But i thought @tha_truth_104 had the best leadership today. No spring depth chrt

Danny Parker: @UTCoachJones says redshirt freshman Riley Ferguson shown more leadership than other QBs. No post-spring depth chart coming.

JONES: We are waiting for someone to take grab and say 'I am the quarterback of Tennessee.' You have to bring it every single day.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

Ferguson in 2014!

 

[Ez_Vol]

Dobbs was NOT better than Worley. Worley would have beaten Vandy, and taken us bowling had he not gotten injured.

Haha ok. It's possible, but without North he would have been in the same situation. It would have still been a close game.:hi:

P.S. Dobbs would have beaten Vandy as well without a Pig unnecessary hold.

 

[soda23]

block in the back

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Haha ok. It's possible, but without North he would have been in the same situation. It would have still been a close game.:hi:

P.S. Dobbs would have beaten Vandy as well if he had thrown better than 50 yards, 2 picks, and zero TD's against their backup secondary

fyp

 

[KBVol]

fyp

Do you just despise the kid?

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Do you just despise the kid?

No I like him actually. He could end up being really good.

But blaming Pig for the Vandy loss and not Dobbs is just awful.

 

[KBVol]

No I like him actually. He could end up being really good.

But blaming Pig for the Vandy loss and not Dobbs is just awful

Plenty of blame to go around that game. Passing game was awful but I think to blame it all on Dobbs is unfair. I agree it was pathetic but it seemed other factors were at play. Not sure why Dobbs could throw for 240 yds and set a UT freshman record for completions vs a much better Mizzou defense on the road, in his first start....but be completely feeble vs a worse, injured Vandy defense. They completely abandoned the passing game early on, other than WR screens after the 2nd pick, which was Croom's fault btw.

Regardless of whether the passing game was worth anything or not, the fact is that Dobbs ran for a td in the 4th that wouldve put the game away if not for Pig's completely unnecessary block in the back.

 

[UTProf]

Plenty of blame to go around that game. Passing game was awful but I think to blame it all on Dobbs is unfair. I agree it was pathetic but it seemed other factors were at play. Not sure why Dobbs could throw for 240 yds and set a UT freshman record for completions vs a much better Mizzou defense on the road, in his first start....but be completely feeble vs a worse, injured Vandy defense. They completely abandoned the passing game early on, other than WR screens after the 2nd pick, which was Croom's fault btw.

Regardless of whether the passing game was worth anything or not, the fact is that Dobbs ran for a td in the 4th that wouldve put the game away if not for Pig's completely unnecessary block in the back.

North went down and our offensive game plan went out the window. Our coaches thought we could play conservatively and win and we almost did win but the collapse of our gameplan against Vandy when North got hurt was similar to the collapse of our gameplan against Florida when Hunter went down. There was no one on the field left to throw to that was 'safe' (Devrin wasn't back yet, Josh had the drops, and Croom's breakout wouldn't come until UK, our TEs were the walking wounded) and our coaches knew that we needed the win to make a bowl - they played it safe and lost.

Even so had that block in the back not happened we'd've won.

 

[1972 Grad]

Plenty of blame to go around that game. Passing game was awful but I think to blame it all on Dobbs is unfair. I agree it was pathetic but it seemed other factors were at play. Not sure why Dobbs could throw for 240 yds and set a UT freshman record for completions vs a much better Mizzou defense on the road, in his first start....but be completely feeble vs a worse, injured Vandy defense. They completely abandoned the passing game early on, other than WR screens after the 2nd pick, which was Croom's fault btw.

Regardless of whether the passing game was worth anything or not, the fact is that Dobbs ran for a td in the 4th that wouldve put the game away if not for Pig's completely unnecessary block in the back.

Pig likes to determine the outcome of a close game.