QB competition..

So they're basically saying that not only is Riley not ready but he's taking unnecessary risks that will probably ultimately get him injured.



no that is what you want it to say

Jones on the radio this morning

JONES (on QBs):We are balancing repetitions. Justin & Riley have taken more reps and they will continue to. Nate & Josh continue to progress


As of right now it's obvious to everyone that it is between Worley and Riley for the starting position and imo a slight edge to Worley. Could things change ? Yes of course they could but right now it's a two man sled
 
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Sounds like Riley KNOWS he can throw in this offense...he's going all in on the keep portion of the read...until it's as natural...IMO :hi:
 
Worley beat SC last year and almost beat UGA with a lot less talent than what we have now at WR. He's a senior and a vfl. He's not manning but give that dude some cred.

THis. I have been a Ferguson fan all off season, but I have no problem seeing Worley get the starting position. Beating the team that ended up ranked #4 in the country at the end of the season proves he can be a sucessful QB at TN.

My only question is perhaps RF is even better and may still overtake him at some point during the season. Also, people thinking Dobbs is ahead of RF are just wrong.
 
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Stop it... just STOP IT!!!

It is ALL on the QB and especially that no talent Worley. Every pass that was overthrown last year even with tight coverage was his fault for not completing for a TD.



In all seriousness, UT has 4 physically talented QB's capable of playing in the SEC. They aren't all equal. We really do not know how they compare to other SEC QB's since they have played with different receivers and in different situations with respect to system and time in system. Some of the strained logic here to support one or the other is amazing. I am dispassionate toward it but end up arguing against those that A) hate on Worley and B) ignore the ACTIONS that put words in context.

The actions of the coaches say that Worley is #1 and appear to be pointing toward Ferguson as #2. While I am sure there are people here with more expertise at judging QB's than Jones and more to lose if the wrong QB is chosen... Butch seems to think Worley doesn't "suck" and might just have enough talent to run the O. Maybe he'll decide someone else is better for the job... but there is NOTHING in his actual behavior since he got on the bus to leave Gainesville last fall that should make anyone believe that he doesn't feel comfortable with Worley if he wins the job.

Think it through. He didn't play more experienced WR's last fall. He was willing to take some extra lumps because he apparently didn't believe the more experienced and developed players had enough upside to justify it. If he didn't think Worley had what it takes then Worley wouldn't be getting reps with the 1's much less the favored reps with them.

Further, if Jones didn't think he could go with the 4 guys he has... he would have made signing a QB in the '14 class a much, MUCH higher priority.


Pretty much everything we see them do points toward confidence in the QB group AND that for now Worley is in the lead with Ferguson taking an advantage for #2.

Good Post.
 
BTW, Worley's best two games were AFTER the WR's began to catch on a little and BEFORE his hand injury... UGA and USCe. Both teams had talent on D. He was very efficient in both games with no TO's and about 400 total yds passing betweent he two. He led the team to a win vs USCe and within a 4" stretch of a win vs UGA.

The team WAS improving behind Worley and took a step back when he went out to injury.

Good points again.
 
Only concern with Worley has been consistency and arm strength. Worley is the safest option tho. He won't turn it over but he is not going to make that play to keep the drive alive either. If the play isn't there when its suppose to be, then out comes darr where it seems fergie has that it factor to make the play but has the potential to do it to often or feel pressure that isnt actually there.
 
Could be that we have a QB or 2, Ferguson and Dobbs, that is/are very talented and are pushing the more experienced QB. Glass half full.

That is the biggest short and long term question at this point.

Are the 2 young guys the future and they are pushing a good qb for the spot?

Or are they (all of em) just average at best Qbs with none of them really being a whole lot better than the next. Which puts landing an elite guy in this next class even more important?

Hopefully its the first. If the future at that position is not on campus right now that position is gonna be a weakness until 2016. More than likely.
 
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Are the 2 young guys the future and they are pushing a good qb for the spot?

Nothing I saw last year points to this. Not only the play on the field, but the decisions of the coach pointed to none of them being quite what CBJ needed to win games. Granted, we have not seen Ferguson, however what we do know is that CBJ decided to burn Dobb's red shirt first. The path of least resistance would suggest that this means Dobbs was more ready to play than Ferguson.

Or are they (all of em) just average at best Qbs with none of them really being a whole lot better than the next. Which puts landing an elite guy in this next class even more important?
This is what I think is true. somebody threw out there that the two young ones were "elite 11". Whatever. I go by rivals.com and so far I have no reason to back out on that. We have three 3* QBs (Ferguson, Dobbs and Worley) and a 4* QB (Peterman), and the 4* QB is showing the least talent of all of them. If the younger two are "pushing" the senior, its because CBJ isnt very comfortable with the senior. If you have two players of equal ability (physically and mentally), but one is a senior with more experience and the other is a freshman, you start the senior. No brainer. But that isnt our case, clearly. If Worley wasnt that good as a junior, I seriously doubt he became so much better now that he is a senior. He had his time in college football to improve, and it just isnt happening. The two freshmen, however could have improved greatly from year 1 to year 2, becoming acclimated to college football. They however were good enough last year to get on the field, but still not good enough to overtake Worley? Sounds to me that its more like all of the QBs are still basically in the same boat as they were last year, just another year older.

Based on which schools offered these players scollys and who those other schools took INSTEAD, it is easy to see that these guys ended up at UT because of 2 reasons: UT's program was a dumpster fire and secondly and more importantly they saw the writing on the wall that said they could fight for a starting job at UT or be the 3rd string QB for one of the other schools. I could make the specific case for each QB, but dont want to type it all out in one post. What I said above just about covers it in a very broad way.

Butch Jones is fighting to rebuild the program and just lost his entire front line(s). He knew this before he took the job. He knows his job isnt going to be in jeopardy after year 2. He will continue to "get by" with what he has until he gets more of his recruits in place in other areas.

At this point I think the question of "who will be the starting QB?" is a moot point. I fully expect to see 2-3 QBs on the field for UT this year, maybe all 4 if injuries are an issue, which they darn well could be given a whole new O-line. One can only hope that Hurd can have a historic first impression on UT and take the heat off of the QB.
 
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Nothing I saw last year points to this. Not only the play on the field, but the decisions of the coach pointed to none of them being quite what CBJ needed to win games. Granted, we have not seen Ferguson, however what we do know is that CBJ decided to burn Dobb's red shirt first. The path of least resistance would suggest that this means Dobbs was more ready to play than Ferguson.


This is what I think is true. somebody threw out there that the two young ones were "elite 11". Whatever. I go by rivals.com and so far I have no reason to back out on that. We have three 3* QBs (Ferguson, Dobbs and Worley) and a 4* QB (Peterman), and the 4* QB is showing the least talent of all of them. If the younger two are "pushing" the senior, its because CBJ isnt very comfortable with the senior. If you have two players of equal ability (physically and mentally), but one is a senior with more experience and the other is a freshman, you start the senior. No brainer. But that isnt our case, clearly. If Worley wasnt that good as a junior, I seriously doubt he became so much better now that he is a senior. He had his time in college football to improve, and it just isnt happening. The two freshmen, however could have improved greatly from year 1 to year 2, becoming acclimated to college football. They however were good enough last year to get on the field, but still not good enough to overtake Worley? Sonds to me that its more like all of the QBs are still basically in the same boat as they were last year, just another year older.

Based on which schools offered these players scollys and who those other schools took INSTEAD, it is easy to see that these guys ended up at UT because of 2 reasons: UT's program was a dumpster fire and secondly and more importantly they saw the writing on the wall that said they could fight for a starting job at UT or be the 3rd string QB for one of the other schools. I could make the specific case for each QB, but dont want to type it all out in one post. What I said above just about covers it in a very broad way.

Butch Jones is fighting to rebuild the program and just lost his entire front line(s). He knew this before he took the job. He knows his job isnt going to be in jeopardy after year 2. He will continue to "get by" with what he has until he gets more of his recruits in place in other areas.

At this point I think the question of "who will be the starting QB?" is a moot point. I fully expect to see 2-3 QBs on the field for UT this year, maybe all 4 if injuries are an issue, which they darn well could be given a whole new O-line. One can only hope that Hurd can have a historic first impression on UT and take the heat off of the QB.

Coach Jones answered a question this year regarding Dobbs starting over Riley and flat out said that the decision was made based on Riley's leg injury. Dobbs didn't get the start because he was the better QB.
 
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Coach Jones answered a question this year regarding Dobbs starting over Riley and flat out said that the decision was made based on Riley's leg injury. Dobbs didn't get the start because he was the better QB.

I didnt know that. However I dont think that alters the argument all that much. We will see after the O/W game what each player did. That will give us more information to digest on Ferguson in a (somewhat) game situation.
 
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Coach Jones answered a question this year regarding Dobbs starting over Riley and flat out said that the decision was made based on Riley's leg injury. Dobbs didn't get the start because he was the better QB.

BS, CBJ said after the Alabama game that it was a coach's decision and not due to a leg injury.
 
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I never know what the hell you are talking about Woodsman but you are interesting anyway. :hi:

Maybe you should do the "most interesting alien in the world" commercial where you consume something green.

Well, told my deaf bud what I'd like to see but think I didn't communicate it well enough. In any case, he came up with this quickie: https://vimeo.com/91647084

I had in mind an alien that ate grass due to hiring himself out as an organic lawn mower.
 
Watch how the QBs react in the pocket on Saturday. Are they reading the defense and checking down, or are they fixing on one receiver? Last year it was clear the Worley was way ahead of Peterman. Interesting to see how Ferguson reacts. Hope to see everyone there.
 
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Nothing I saw last year points to this. Not only the play on the field, but the decisions of the coach pointed to none of them being quite what CBJ needed to win games. Granted, we have not seen Ferguson, however what we do know is that CBJ decided to burn Dobb's red shirt first. The path of least resistance would suggest that this means Dobbs was more ready to play than Ferguson.

The leg issue (as mentioned above) seems to have played a role between Ferguson and Dobbs. I think Dobbs has some of the characteristics that fit the offense but he looked like a FR during most of his first shot. I don't think he is completely out of the mix as some do.


This is what I think is true. somebody threw out there that the two young ones were "elite 11". Whatever. I go by rivals.com and so far I have no reason to back out on that. We have three 3* QBs (Ferguson, Dobbs and Worley) and a 4* QB (Peterman), and the 4* QB is showing the least talent of all of them. If the younger two are "pushing" the senior, its because CBJ isnt very comfortable with the senior. If you have two players of equal ability (physically and mentally), but one is a senior with more experience and the other is a freshman, you start the senior. No brainer. But that isnt our case, clearly. If Worley wasnt that good as a junior, I seriously doubt he became so much better now that he is a senior. He had his time in college football to improve, and it just isnt happening. The two freshmen, however could have improved greatly from year 1 to year 2, becoming acclimated to college football. They however were good enough last year to get on the field, but still not good enough to overtake Worley? Sounds to me that its more like all of the QBs are still basically in the same boat as they were last year, just another year older.

Based on which schools offered these players scollys and who those other schools took INSTEAD, it is easy to see that these guys ended up at UT because of 2 reasons: UT's program was a dumpster fire and secondly and more importantly they saw the writing on the wall that said they could fight for a starting job at UT or be the 3rd string QB for one of the other schools. I could make the specific case for each QB, but dont want to type it all out in one post. What I said above just about covers it in a very broad way.

Butch Jones is fighting to rebuild the program and just lost his entire front line(s). He knew this before he took the job. He knows his job isnt going to be in jeopardy after year 2. He will continue to "get by" with what he has until he gets more of his recruits in place in other areas.

At this point I think the question of "who will be the starting QB?" is a moot point. I fully expect to see 2-3 QBs on the field for UT this year, maybe all 4 if injuries are an issue, which they darn well could be given a whole new O-line. One can only hope that Hurd can have a historic first impression on UT and take the heat off of the QB.

Hopefully this is not the correct answer because even with better skill players these QBs are gonna have to be better than average IMO. And that includes next year when Worley is gone.

My take on the big picture is this.

Worley is serviceable at the spot but his room to get a lot better is smaller than Ferguson or Dobbs. If neither are able to make the step that unseats him than UT has a QB problem in the future (or until they get the next guy(s) on campus.
 
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Posted by Freak in another thread. Comes from a radio interview this morning:

"JONES (on QBs):We are balancing repetitions. Justin & Riley have taken more reps and they will continue to. Nate & Josh continue to progress"
 
worley starts game one but the number 2 gets good game exp. i think it will be riley for a couple reasons. one is that dobbs will get red shirted if possible. because he aint ready. the ability is there he just needs time. im am a riley guy. have been since he committed. is like someone who will take risk. we got play makers and when you combine playmakers with a qb who will take a risk that = a big play waitin to happen. and turnovers. its part of the game. riley is goin to make mistakes this sat. and this fall. he is still a redshirt freshmen but has a lot of potental. he be time we play bama i hope he is adjusted to the speed of college ball because we never know if worley goin stay healthy. but if our defense dont make us score 40 points agame then worley will take us to a bowl wait and see
 
I believe Justin Worley is our starting quarterback as it stands, but Ferguson still has time to take the job between now and August.
 
BS, CBJ said after the Alabama game that it was a coach's decision and not due to a leg injury.

Yeah, that stress fracture in Riley's leg had nothing to do with it. Technically it was a coach's decision I guess.
 
Yeah, that stress fracture in Riley's leg had nothing to do with it. Technically it was a coach's decision I guess.

So when CBJ says something directly in favor of Ferguson you jump all over it and spread the word but when he says something directly in favor of Dobbs you try and say he was lying.

I love it, it's so funny. :)
 
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So when CBJ says something directly in favor of Ferguson you jump all over it and spread the word but when he says something directly in favor of Dobbs you try and say he was lying.

I love it, it's so funny. :)

Or maybe he was trying to cover the fact that Dobbs was his last and only healthy QB.
 
So when CBJ says something directly in favor of Ferguson you jump all over it and spread the word but when he says something directly in favor of Dobbs you try and say he was lying.

I love it, it's so funny. :)

Not that funny :ermm:


Maybe you had to be there :lolabove:
 

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