QB competition..

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By reports

1st team - Worley (most experienced and most consistent but not the best playmaker)
2nd team - Ferguson (most talented and best arm but suffers from some inconsistency issues. has the gunslinger mentality and keeps the ball on read option too much. sometimes shows most leadership)
3rd team - Dobbs (needs to work on arm strength. holds ball to long which has resulted in sacks. had fumbling issues this spring. some have said he seems dis-interested and his brutal schedule could be holding him back)
4th team - Peterman (only thing ive really heard is he holds the ball too long, which has resulted in sacks)
 
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coug said:
I'm talking about what was reported by the news.
"Jones called the decision to play Dobbs over Ferguson "a coach's decision" and not due to an injury."

I appreciate that people want to weigh heavily on which QB is getting more first team reps but I honestly am not sure how much weight you can put on this in the grand scheme of picking starter and backup QB. It's still early in the season and truth be told of the 4 Ferguson has gotten the least experience of all the other 3 since his injury. That may be the very reason Jones is putting him on more first team reps and NOT because he thinks he's better than the other 3. The exception being Worley because regardless he's most likely starting. Why that is, is between Worley and the coaches.



Freak conveniently left out an important comment made after Butch praised Ferguson. Perhaps Freak is a Fergie fan?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/lTzmia1e6W8[/youtube]

Watch this Butch Jones presser.

With regard to Thursdays(4/10/14) practice only.

Butch Jones @ 3:51: I thought Riley had more leadership than any of them but not to our standard by which we're going to play quarterback here at TN.

Butch Jones @ 4:08: We don't believe in depth charts in our football program.
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So really, all you're doing is speculating. It seems you think Ferguson is getting first team reps because maybe he hasn't played yet? I think, based in what I've read in print and heard on the radio, it's because he's played well and earned the spot he's now in, which appears to be 2nd behind Worley and pushing, to whatever degree, to be the starter. All I'm doing is either copying and pasting directly from twitter or other UT sites.

Also, regarding the last parts about what Butch said, how does that disprove how Riley and the other QBs are performing? It sounds like they all had a bad day, that none of them played to the standards the coaches want and expect.....yet Ferguson is the one he singled out as showing the best leadership for the day.

Also, the tweets I pasted from Freak also mentioned the lack of depth charts so that wasn't omitted.

Bottom line..... I don't care who the starting QB is among Worley, Dobbs and Ferguson. I'll take any of the 3 and I'll trust that Butch and Coach Jake are making the right decision. I'll also continue to try and contribute to these QB threads by posting information from reliable sources about who's progressing, who's getting reps, and who is projected where based on their performance.
 
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#656
I LOVE statistics... as some of you know from painful experience. Numbers tell stories but not the whole story all of the time. The truth cannot conflict with the numbers but the numbers do not always tell the WHOLE truth.

Worley started the more difficult games. He had a lower completion % but also knew when to throw it away. Dobbs turned it over more and especially at critical times.

Worley "managed" the O better and that was very, very obvious. Not Dobbs' fault. But he wasn't ready and does not appear to be in the top 2 right now. He will come along in time... his time is probably not now.
 
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Tennkook said:
UTProf Do you honestly think Dobbs was as effective as Worley? Or are you just playing devil's advocate?
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Depends on the game, really. Worley against anyone but the 2nd half of Georgia or the 2nd half of SC is no better than Dobbs. Those two games though Worley was very good (Dobbs had flashes against Bama and Mizzou and was very good during the UK game and while people yell it's UK! that doesn't really effect throwing a bullet into tight windows the way he was throwing them at UK - we saw some of those at Bama and Mizzou but that game he showed a level of consistency he needs to have going all the time before he's a starter). However, I think overall Worley's in a better position to emerge starter. His experience and maturity matters and Dobbs still needs to develop consistency and make better decisions protecting the ball/getting rid of it but in terms of how much offense Worley brought to the table versus how much offense Dobbs did they're much closer and considering Dobbs was a true frosh with no spring that's pretty impressive. If Dobbs improved his consistency and ball protection between now and game day then I'd go with him over Worley if all other things remained equal but as of yet he hasn't done that thus there's no way I'd place him over Worley at this point in time, although in terms of potential and production I think Dobbs has a higher ceiling.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
It would have been interesting to see Tyler Bray play had CBJ been around during his playing days.

He may have become a leader AND a legend at UT.

Or.... CBJ would have killed him.
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Bray would still have been a spoiled 14 year old mentally.
 
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PassedOutAwake said:
1 rushing TD?..... against UK

Worley is still ahead. Heres there numbers against actual competition. BTW WKU is better than UK.

3.5 games. Dobbs was 58/98 0 passing TDs and 0 rushing TDs against Bama, Mizzou, Auburn and Vandy. With 5 INTs. 496 yards.

4.5 games. Worley was 67/128 4 passing TDs 0 rushing TDs against Oregon, Florida, USC, Bama, and UGA. With 4 INTs. 789 yards

Although Dobbs had a higher completion %, Worley put up more yards per game and actually scored.
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u actually used florida to support ur point

:eek:lol:

wow
 
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coug said:
I'm talking about what was reported by the news.
"Jones called the decision to play Dobbs over Ferguson "a coach's decision" and not due to an injury."

I appreciate that people want to weigh heavily on which QB is getting more first team reps but I honestly am not sure how much weight you can put on this in the grand scheme of picking starter and backup QB. It's still early in the season and truth be told of the 4 Ferguson has gotten the least experience of all the other 3 since his injury. That may be the very reason Jones is putting him on more first team reps and NOT because he thinks he's better than the other 3. The exception being Worley because regardless he's most likely starting. Why that is, is between Worley and the coaches.



Freak conveniently left out an important comment made after Butch praised Ferguson. Perhaps Freak is a Fergie fan?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/lTzmia1e6W8[/youtube]

Watch this Butch Jones presser.

With regard to Thursdays(4/10/14) practice only.

Butch Jones @ 3:51: I thought Riley had more leadership than any of them but not to our standard by which we're going to play quarterback here at TN.

Butch Jones @ 4:08: We don't believe in depth charts in our football program.
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The DAGGER! WOW! Deliberately left out parts to support his own agenda. Lamest ish ever!
 
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CBJ needs to reconsider naming a QB before this place turns into a post-apocalyptic nightmare world occupied primarily by wild bands of roving cannibals and zombies. Pretty sure we're already halfway there and there's months to go before Aug. :blink:
 
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coug said:
I'm talking about what was reported by the news.
"Jones called the decision to play Dobbs over Ferguson "a coach's decision" and not due to an injury."

I appreciate that people want to weigh heavily on which QB is getting more first team reps but I honestly am not sure how much weight you can put on this in the grand scheme of picking starter and backup QB. It's still early in the season and truth be told of the 4 Ferguson has gotten the least experience of all the other 3 since his injury. That may be the very reason Jones is putting him on more first team reps and NOT because he thinks he's better than the other 3. The exception being Worley because regardless he's most likely starting. Why that is, is between Worley and the coaches.



Freak conveniently left out an important comment made after Butch praised Ferguson. Perhaps Freak is a Fergie fan?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/lTzmia1e6W8[/youtube]

Watch this Butch Jones presser.

With regard to Thursdays(4/10/14) practice only.

Butch Jones @ 3:51: I thought Riley had more leadership than any of them but not to our standard by which we're going to play quarterback here at TN.

Butch Jones @ 4:08: We don't believe in depth charts in our football program.
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Henceforth you shall be known as Baghdad Coug
 
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From the liveblog for the O&W game. Depth chart coming out of spring practice?? :)

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lexkyvol said:
u actually used florida to support ur point

:eek:lol:

wow
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at least i used facts to support my point.

you use nothing to support yours. just a conspiracy theory that Dobbs doesnt need practice reps because the coaches already know hes the starter. [sarcasm] makes sense to barely practice your starter and have the other guys get 80% of the practice reps [/sarcasm]. yeah, Dobbs doesnt need to get any better even though hes young and had a bunch of problems the previous season.

Florida has talent. If they didnt have so many injuries last season, they wouldve won more games than they did.

I havent taken anything youve said serious because either youre trolling, or you have the worst logic on this board.
 
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Worley and Ferguson are getting snaps with the 1's/2's for a reason. Anyone who believes cbj is not giving dobbs snaps with the 1's because he is the starter, and they are trying to decide if worley or ferguson is #2 is either trolling people or blinded badly due to their support of said player. It makes zero sense.
Everything points to a two man battle between Worley and Ferguson. These practices are valuable, every snap counts. And they are being split between Worley and Ferguson. Not to mention all those who actually see the practices saying the same thing.
 
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Jax_Vol said:
We will know more by this time tomorrow.....I hope!
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nope, we won't know because Butch not doing anything with position until August 15th or so. Expect him to go with experience in the end to start the season. If Ferguson stays around # 2, he will get experience during season in backup role to Worley. See if he can eliminate his miss queues
 
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Jax_Vol said:
We will know more by this time tomorrow.....I hope!
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No, we were at this exact same point at the same time last year hoping that the O&W game would determine something. It won't. All it is is essentially an open practice/scrimmage that the fans can attend. To the coaches it's just another practice day.

GrowVol said:
Like yourself, I am not all Dobbs.... But a kid a few months out of high school matched up with a junior(worley) with plenty of experience.... A true freshman that ran the ball straight at Bama's backers.
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:good!:

KBVol said:
So really, all you're doing is speculating. It seems you think Ferguson is getting first team reps because maybe he hasn't played yet?
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I can't say I'm speculating anymore than any of the other fans that are leaning more towards Ferguson.

Just a theory, and like I said it's still spring.

I think, based in what I've read in print and heard on the radio, it's because he's played well and earned the spot he's now in, which appears to be 2nd behind Worley and pushing, to whatever degree, to be the starter. All I'm doing is either copying and pasting directly from twitter or other UT sites.
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Fair enough. All I was doing with regard to my last comment was quoting the coach himself and not clinging to what media outlets are saying.

Also, regarding the last parts about what Butch said, how does that disprove how Riley and the other QBs are performing? It sounds like they all had a bad day, that none of them played to the standards the coaches want and expect.....yet Ferguson is the one he singled out as showing the best leadership for the day.
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Not quite sure I'm following your question.

If you recall CBJ was saying the same thing about Dobbs last year as well before the season started and yet Worley started regardless.

Also, the tweets I pasted from Freak also mentioned the lack of depth charts so that wasn't omitted.
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I was mainly referring to the omitted portion pertaining to CBJ's comment towards Ferguson.
 
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