question about homosexuality

in your opinion are the gay people born that way or do they make a choice to be gay?

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#210
#210
Good convos tonight, boys (seriously, for a Sunday night?). But I'm on vacation and the ladies are finally ready to go out, so I'm off to Times Square!
 
#211
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therealUT said:
No, it just makes me laugh that you would post pictures of your children on an anonymous message board.
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What does it matter that he post pictures of his kids?

He is proud of them and he can do whatever he wants.

Of course, you just wanted to attack a poster on this board, which is the usual for you.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
I used to think people showing off their kids was dumb. Then I had a couple.
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Clever. I laughed.

If I were convinced that someone on a message board was a predatory pedophile, though, I would probably avoid posting pictures of my children on said message board. That would ostensibly be the prudent approach, as a parent, in the interest of their child's safety; i.e., trying to protect them much more than simply telling them that two men or two women might love each other.

I don't know, maybe that's just me.
 
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therealUT said:
Clever. I laughed.

If I were convinced that someone on a message board was a predatory pedophile, though, I would probably avoid posting pictures of my children on said message board. That would ostensibly be the prudent approach, as a parent, in the interest of their child's safety; i.e., trying to protect them much more than simply telling them that two men or two women might love each other.

I don't know, maybe that's just me.
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Wasn't trying to be clever. Just saying when you have a few kids don't be surprised if you find yourself showing them off.
 
#216
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i told him we were just baiting the hook. Told him all about what pedos do to kids. I mean, he asked what happens to boys that disappear, and I'm not going to lie to him. He is 4. He's ready for that info.

What a joke some people on here are. Total jokes. Don't admit you are terribly wrong about something you have no experience with. Just keep arguing to make yourself look more idiotic.

Tell you what TRUT, i won't talk about going AWOL, and you don't talk about raising children, so we'll call it even.
 
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joeydupree said:
Not sure Billy ever really weighed in....
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Weighed in on what?

ETA: You're talking about the OP? OK, I didn't know what I thought, I just didn't understand why a dude would rather have sex with another dude instead of a girl. I've decided, especially after hearing from the gay man that posted in this thread, that I think there is something wrong with their brain. I'm a Christian too.
 
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Billy Costigan said:
Weighed in on what?

ETA: You're talking about the OP? OK, I didn't know what I thought, I just didn't understand why a dude would rather have sex with another dude instead of a girl. I've decided, especially after hearing from the gay man that posted in this thread, that I think there is something wrong with their brain. I'm a Christian too.
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So you consider homosexuality a birth defect. I know others who feel the same; they are in the 'not a choice' camp, but most still disagree with the 'lifestyle' (I don't like to use that word, but couldn't think of a better one here). As it goes against reproductive biology, I suppose it could easily be considered a defect; it's just the negative descriptors (e.g. 'wrong', 'defect') are difficult for me to use.

Also, FWIW, I would not expect you or any other heterosexual to understand why we would be attracted to the same sex - that's also the reason I would hope helps you realize it is not a choice (for the majority). Frankly, I have no idea what it feels like to be attracted to a woman. I know from a biological sense it should be the natural attraction, but simply has never been there for me.
 
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gcbvol said:
So you consider homosexuality a birth defect. I know others who feel the same; they are in the 'not a choice' camp, but most still disagree with the 'lifestyle' (I don't like to use that word, but couldn't think of a better one here). As it goes against reproductive biology, I suppose it could easily be considered a defect; it's just the negative descriptors (e.g. 'wrong', 'defect') are difficult for me to use.

Also, FWIW, I would not expect you or any other heterosexual to understand why we would be attracted to the same sex - that's also the reason I would hope helps you realize it is not a choice (for the majority). Frankly, I have no idea what it feels like to be attracted to a woman. I know from a biological sense it should be the natural attraction, but simply has never been there for me.
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Yeah, I guess. I just think that the wiring in the brain is off. That's perfectly fine though. Homosexual guys are very nice people. I want to thank you for giving us your input on this subject.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
See, I think that question is a VERY fair one in the discussion. Can they do tests in the womb to determine homosexuality?? What about when the baby comes out, what can they determine then?? If someone is TRULY born gay, shouldn't that be something that is determined before birth in the first place??
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Homosexuality being an inherent trait has not yet been proven, so obviously there are no tests.

I don't understand why people think it's so far out of the realm of possibility that homosexuality is just hard wired in the brain. Did you ever choose to be heterosexual? No, that's just the way your brain is wired.
 
#223
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Billy Costigan said:
Yeah, I guess. I just think that the wiring in the brain is off. That's perfectly fine though. Homosexual guys are very nice people. I want to thank you for giving us your input on this subject.
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Not off, just different. Same as people with attached earlobes, or people that can roll their tongues.
 
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#224
gcb, I appreciate your input as well, and your bravery.

There are specific reasons this topic interests me. I didn't just start debating it today on VN... And I haven't broached the subject since I had kids.
The OP asked if we believe people/babies are born gay. I do not. All my comments, I think, were mostly geared directly towards just that.
It's been said a child's life path is determined by the time they are 5 yrs. old as far as what they've learned and how they will proceed. People saying you're born gay is silly to me, respectfully. How you are raised and your environment affects you more than anything, imo...
Kids can be retarded and never know the difference. Maybe you would suggest the same could be said about sexuality. IDK...
My question the whole time was not whether you can be born gay, but if you are a heterosexual male, how do you best parent your child if you believe it's possible they are already gay. Only one straight man (assuming so) with kids responded with a genuine answer.

I'm tired of typing. Come to the Zone and have some fun some time. There's a ton of people in there waiting for someone like you to make it ok for them to be who they really are.
 
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