Race and fear: ugly comments

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It seems you misread Boortz... This quote is from his website, which he updates daily, BEFORE his radio show.

I drop-dead guarantee you that if Barack Obama loses in 11 days there is going to be violence in urban areas. Now some of you less-educated people out there are going to suggest that I'm saying this because the people engaging in violence will be black. Well, I'll tell you something that, because of government education, many people will not be able to understand. It won't be race that will bring the disturbances and riots on .. it will be the urban culture of violence. I'm not a racist .. I'm a culturalist. There .. that ought to keep some of you thinking for a while.
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lawgator1 said:
It contains a large black population, a small minority of whom are criminal.
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lg, I think there will be some riots in urban areas where poor blacks are heavily populated BUT it has more to do with economic and social factors than color of skin.

In the 1860's some of the worst (draft) riots in U.S. history happened in NYC because poor-uneducated people felt they were getting screwed by the gov't. Most of these people were poor, white and Irish and lived in tenements and ghettos.

When lower, or the lowest class, feels they are getting screwed they will riot and in this case it just happens the people are black.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
as if that will be some sort of new phenomenon.
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It is to a degree. There will not be the freedom to govern as there has been in the past. His thought process will be guessed and anticipated by all. He will always be on the defense and not allowed to wander aimlessly like the current President.
 
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JZVOL said:
lg, I think there will be some riots in urban areas where poor blacks are heavily populated BUT it has more to do with economic and social factors than color of skin.

In the 1860's some of the worst (draft) riots in U.S. history happened in NYC because poor-uneducated people felt they were getting screwed by the gov't. Most of these people were poor, white and Irish and lived in tenements and ghettos.

When lower, or the lowest class, feels they are getting screwed they will riot and in this case it just happens the people are black.
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Well said.
 
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rwemyss said:
It seems you misread Boortz... This quote is from his website, which he updates daily, BEFORE his radio show.


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Yes. Well that solves it, doesn't it?

His saying its "cultural" and then proclaiming he's not a racist makes it all better and allows him to say whatever he wants under the guise of "culture" differences.

Pathetic.
 
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jdsa said:
I think it's being racist. This is another unfortunate twist in the McCain strategy, does he really need to circle the wagons around old stereotypes about black people to have a chance to win at this point? There are some lines I just wouldn't cross no matter the circumstances.
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So you don't think there would be any protests including vandalism if McCain were to win in the inner city areas?

I am in no way shape or form racist and i happen to see it as a very good possibility, I do not see how that would make me racist.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
It is to a degree. There will not be the freedom to govern as there has been in the past. His thought process will be guessed and anticipated by all. He will always be on defense and not allowed to wander aimlessly like the current President.
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That's completely ludicrous. He's going to have a sympathetic congress and an accomplice in the major media outlets. The fact that he has gotten a pass to date on his lie of an economic plan, his blatant discussion of redistribution and wanton class warfare should tell you all you need to know about how "hard" things will be.

It should scare you shirtless that such an obviously socialist admin is about to pair with socialist leadership loonies in congress and have unfettered access to the flight controls.
 
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KB5252 said:
So you don't think there would be any protests including vandalism if McCain were to win in the inner city areas?

I am in no way shape or form racist and i happen to see it as a very good possibility, I do not see how that would make me racist.
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Your making that comment does not.

Boortz saying he doesn't want to be in downtown Atlanta or have a McCain sticker does because he is trying to suggest to people that rioting African-Americn criminals are Obama's constituency.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Was driving in to work and Neil Boortz was on. Told a caller: "If John McCain somehow pulls this out, know where I don't want to be that night?"

Answer: "Downtown Atlanta."

This will be the new tactic to remind everyone that he's black and, in the minds of too many, associated with criminal thuggery of largely African-American cities or parts of cities.

Oh, and the caller threw in "And you don't want to have a McCain bumper sticker, that's for sure" to which Boortz added "You are so right."

Its not quite "nappy headed ho," but its not that far from it.
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James Carville said the same stuff a couple of weeks ago.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
It is to a degree. There will not be the freedom to govern as there has been in the past. His thought process will be guessed and anticipated by all. He will always be on the defense and not allowed to wander aimlessly like the current President.
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:eek:lol:

Now I've seen it all. Calling in the Wambulance before the guy is even elected. Keep it up. I'm dyin here.:eek:lol:
 
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Sudden Impact said:
If McCain wins, possibility all Democrats and now some Republicans will Gridlock 2 of the 3 Branches of Government.

If Obama wins, he gets no free ticket. He will live under a microscope and every statement he makes will be analyzed in detail.
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I believe that any statement made against BHO will be under the racist microscope...the media will crucify ant one that questions the Messiah
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your making that comment does not.

Boortz saying he doesn't want to be in downtown Atlanta or have a McCain sticker does because he is trying to suggest to people that rioting African-Americn criminals are Obama's constituency.
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he's not trying to suggest anything. He is blatantly saying it and he's exactly correct.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Your making that comment does not.

Boortz saying he doesn't want to be in downtown Atlanta or have a McCain sticker does because he is trying to suggest to people that rioting African-Americn criminals are Obama's constituency.
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And how many poor black people do you think are voting for McCain?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
That's completely ludicrous. He's going to have a sympathetic congress and an accomplice in the major media outlets. The fact that he has gotten a pass to date on his lie of an economic plan, his blatant discussion of redistribution and wanton class warfare should tell you all you need to know about how "hard" things will be.

It should scare you shirtless that such an obviously socialist admin is about to pair with socialist leadership loonies in congress and have unfettered access to the flight controls.
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We've had the redistribution argument before. Our taxation system has become per se redistribution of wealth, either directly or indirectly, and its a question of who benefits and who gets nailed depending on your point of view.

I think Obama will be a fairly sedate president, doing a lot behind the scenes and trying to keep the trains running on time. Whoever wins is going to have a tough road given the economy, that's for sure.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yes. Well that solves it, doesn't it?

His saying its "cultural" and then proclaiming he's not a racist makes it all better and allows him to say whatever he wants under the guise of "culture" differences.

Pathetic.
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You twisting the words to try and make your point is what is pathetic.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I absolutely do not think that McCain personally endorses that type of commentary. But its typical of ultra right wing and conservative radio show hosts.

And no, if McCain wins, I don't think there would be race riots. I just don't see that as having the same urgency or outrage as something like a sudden altercation with police caught on video type of thing. I'm sure some people would be upset, but no race riots.

Actually, it might be a little of the opposite. Flipping through the tv this morning and there were the three happy dopes on Fox's morning show going on and on about how the 450,000 real people signed up by ACORN might swing the election. Obama will have to win Pa. and Ohio by enormous margins to be legitimate in the eyes of many. And even then there will be some who will always claim that black people working for ACORN rigged it.

Two nights ago I went for a walk and listening to radio caught another radio show host who was prattling on about the theory that Obama was born in Africa and so is not allowed to be President.

Race riots, ACORN rigging theories, Africa-born. Its a disgusting pattern.
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I don't think there would be race riots per say but I do think there would be mass demonstrations and there would be incidents of vandalism and probably some isolated cases of bodily harm to innocent people.

It could very well be that Obama was born in Africa but as far as I'm concerned (not to mention the law) it doesn't matter one bit. He was born to a US citizen and the debate ends there either way! Those that would choose not to vote for a candidate based on his race alone are very few and far between. There is plenty of reason not to vote for this man besides race, those that will try to blame his losing (if it does happen) on racism are as fringe as the racist themselves.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Of course not but that's the way its being presented by Fox News and Hannity and Limbaugh and Ingraham and Coulter, and Boortz, and Beck, etc. That's the point.
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I think this statement is a stretch.
 
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T-TownVol said:
You twisting the words to try and make your point is what is pathetic.
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Come on. He says whatever he wants about black people and then innocently proclaims its not racist its "cultural." He's just making up distinctions that don't exist (or that at least are inapplicable in context) but give him license, in his own extremely narrow mind, to say whatever he wants.


KB5252 said:
I don't think there would be race riots per say but I do think there would be mass demonstrations and there would be incidents of vandalism and probably some isolated cases of bodily harm to innocent people.

It could very well be that Obama was born in Africa but as far as I'm concerned (not to mention the law) it doesn't matter one bit. He was born to a US citizen and the debate ends there either way! Those that would choose not to vote for a candidate based on his race alone are very few and far between. There is plenty of reason not to vote for this man besides race, those that will try to blame his losing (if it does happen) on racism are as fringe as the racist themselves.
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As to your first point, that would not surprise me. But saying "Whoa, you don't want to be in downtown Atlanta if Obama loses" is playing on fear and stereotype, pure and simple.

As to your second, Google "Obama bown in Africa" and take a look at the first result.
 
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Nobody ever wants to be in downtown Atlanta or any other city unless it is business. In Atlanta even the police ignore it and I would say in the future that it will become more volatile like many other inner cities if MCCain wins.
 
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JZVOL said:
lg, I think there will be some riots in urban areas where poor blacks are heavily populated BUT it has more to do with economic and social factors than color of skin.

In the 1860's some of the worst (draft) riots in U.S. history happened in NYC because poor-uneducated people felt they were getting screwed by the gov't. Most of these people were poor, white and Irish and lived in tenements and ghettos.

When lower, or the lowest class, feels they are getting screwed they will riot and in this case it just happens the people are black.
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lg this is for you again.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Our taxation system has become per se redistribution of wealth, either directly or indirectly, and its a question of who benefits and who gets nailed depending on your point of view.
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Who gets nailed is not a question depending upon one's point of view. There are winners and losers in the redistribution game.

Again, the candidates make us more or less socialist depending upon their approach to progressive taxation. Regardless, the loser is still easily identifiable. He's the one who paid the most money.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Nobody ever wants to be in downtown Atlanta or any other city unless it is business. In Atlanta even the police ignore it and I would say in the future that it will become more volatile like many other inner cities if MCCain wins.
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shhhh....LG might hear you and not be able to rail against the conservative right
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Nobody ever wants to be in downtown Atlanta or any other city unless it is business. In Atlanta even the police ignore it and I would say in the future that it will become more volatile like many other inner cities if MCCain wins.
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per LG logic, this is a racist rant.
 
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