Race and fear: ugly comments

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BigPapaVol said:
That's completely ludicrous. He's going to have a sympathetic congress and an accomplice in the major media outlets. The fact that he has gotten a pass to date on his lie of an economic plan, his blatant discussion of redistribution and wanton class warfare should tell you all you need to know about how "hard" things will be.

It should scare you shirtless that such an obviously socialist admin is about to pair with socialist leadership loonies in congress and have unfettered access to the flight controls.
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you have little faith in the Republican Party to push this agenda? it will happen and strength will be gained by the Republican Party through the "I told you So" of politics.

Trust me Republicans will find many things to stick on the wall and it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

The worst thing that McCain did was to use Phil Graham as a spokesperson on the Economy. Why he choose him early on beats the hell out of me and why he didn't fire him immediately I cannot Explain. Graham is often overlooked as one of the people that weaken our National Security through the budget cuts on the military.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
its not there are a lot of blacks that would not go to downtown atlanta by choice between 3 to 4 pm on a workday. Hell the police kinda ignore it also.
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From what i understand Atlanta is a nightmare for police anyway so many counties with so many jurisdictions.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Nobody ever wants to be in downtown Atlanta or any other city unless it is business. In Atlanta even the police ignore it and I would say in the future that it will become more volatile like many other inner cities if MCCain wins.
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I don't like to go to downtown Atlanta in large part because of the criminal element there. That's a lot different than saying watch out if Obama loses, there's gonna' be trouble in that community just because he's black. (Because that's who supports him).


BigPapaVol said:
Who gets nailed is not a question depending upon one's point of view. There are winners and losers in the redistribution game.

Again, the candidates make us more or less socialist depending upon their approach to progressive taxation. Regardless, the loser is still easily identifiable. He's the one who paid the most money.
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Right, but if redistribution of wealth is wrong in principle, then it is also wrong to take money from the middle class and provide tax breaks that ultimately benefit the wealthiest citizens or corporations, right?

This is my point. Its not the redistribution of wealth that is in and of itself the problem. Its the redistribution from the top to the middle or even the bottom that makes some people unhappy. Just as tax breaks for the top income earners makes others unhappy.



BigPapaVol said:
per LG logic, this is a racist rant.
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No, its not. Its racist if you insinuate and appeal to the stereotype of the criminal element in downtown Atlanta taking up Obama's cause if McCain should win.


JZVOL said:
I googled Obama bown in Africa and got this...

Canon John Bown - Telegraph
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I got this: Fight the Smears: The Truth About Barack?s Birth Certificate
 
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Sudden Impact said:
you have little faith in the Republican Party to push this agenda? it will happen and strength will be gained by the Republican Party through the "I told you So" of politics.

Trust me Republicans will find many things to stick on the wall and it will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

The worst thing that McCain did was to use Phil Graham as a spokesperson on the Economy. Why he choose him early on beats the hell out of me and why he didn't fire him immediately I cannot Explain. Graham is often overlooked as one of the people that weaken our National Security through the budget cuts on the military.
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I take little solace in your argument that things will get so crappy that Republicans will again sweep to the fore.

Honestly, I don't freaking care which party is in power. I want neither of them to have control of of the two policymaking branches.

I simply want fiscal conservatives who understand that the greatness of our economy lies in our entrepreneurial nature and is built upon the backbone of the individual business owner. This bottom up idiocy that Obama speaks should have him locked in an insane asylum, as it's the dumbest economic theory I've ever even heard. It's tantamount to taxing into prosperity.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I take little solace in your argument that things will get so crappy that Republicans will again sweep to the fore.

Honestly, I don't freaking care which party is in power. I want neither of them to have control of of the two policymaking branches.

I simply want fiscal conservatives who understand that the greatness of our economy lies in our entrepreneurial nature and is built upon the backbone of the individual business owner. This bottom up idiocy that Obama speaks should have him locked in an insane asylum, as it's the dumbest economic theory I've ever even heard. It's tantamount to taxing into prosperity.
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Thank you, You have finally said something I can live with and I agree of which I understand that the choice is the lesser of two evils in this case when it comes to the Economy.

I think Wall Street is sending Govt involvement a message to stay out. It is like trying to separate two dogs fighting. There is more money to be made on the market in a recession that in a growth period.

Some of this is natural movement in the market but contributing more to the downside is panic, this election, the housing and credit crisis and the time it will take to heel from the B12 which has been ejected. Not on the short but the long term.

At first it was like treating a bullet wound with a band aid.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Right, but if redistribution of wealth is wrong in principle, then it is also wrong to take money from the middle class and provide tax breaks that ultimately benefit the wealthiest citizens or corporations, right?

This is my point. Its not the redistribution of wealth that is in and of itself the problem. Its the redistribution from the top to the middle or even the bottom that makes some people unhappy. Just as tax breaks for the top income earners makes others unhappy.
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You're simply not understanding in the least. There is no money be redistributed to the wealthy. The idea of tax breaks as redistribution is simply absurd.

Any move that levels the burden out more is simply progressing toward fairness or helping ameliorate the huge discrepancy in tax expense across the spectrum today.

I don't understand why this is so hard for you. The upper class pays the vast, vast majority of taxes today and have in this nation forever. Pretending that reducing that burden and displacing it to others is somehow redistribution of wealth is a pure misnomer. It's allowing the wealthy to keep what they've EARNED and put it to work in our economy. They are getting nothing extra from the government. It is not the same argument in reverse. It is completely different, any way you slice it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Me, too.
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Obama has expressly said hundreds of times that he is going to take money from this man and give it to those less productive.

He has said "we have to get this bottom up economy going" many times. There is no such thing as bottom up economics aside from socialism. In fact, socialism is a bottom up model that cannot work.
 
#62
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BigPapaVol said:
I simply want fiscal conservatives who understand that the greatness of our economy lies in our entrepreneurial nature and is built upon the backbone of the individual business owner. This bottom up idiocy that Obama speaks should have him locked in an insane asylum, as it's the dumbest economic theory I've ever even heard. It's tantamount to taxing into prosperity.
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Then the appointment of Warren Buffet does not Scare you?
 
#63
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T-TownVol said:
but, respectfully, why will you be voting for the man that will cripple business
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don't forget, he'll also take away your guns, impose a one-child policy, force kids to start selling crack in elementary school, strip back the military to all but those protecting the White House, turn the White House into a pyramid, make fundamentalist Islam the official religion, change the Pledge to "Under Allah," offer up Florida for any members of Al Qaeda to live, and continue smoking.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Then the appointment of Warren Buffet does not Scare you?
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doesn't scare me, but he's a capitalist and not an economist. He has enough money that he has passed the threshold of taxes eating away his base of investment, so he has lost sight of what taxes does to small businesses. I don't like that in the least.

I do think the Buffet situation is pure headline grabbing politics rather than staff building.
 
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TennNC said:
don't forget, he'll also take away your guns, impose a one-child policy, force kids to start selling crack in elementary school, strip back the military to all but those protecting the White House, turn the White House into a pyramid, make fundamentalist Islam the official religion, change the Pledge to "Under Allah," offer up Florida for any members of Al Qaeda to live, and continue smoking.
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can I quote you on that?
 
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TennNC said:
don't forget, he'll also take away your guns, impose a one-child policy, force kids to start selling crack in elementary school, strip back the military to all but those protecting the White House, turn the White House into a pyramid, make fundamentalist Islam the official religion, change the Pledge to "Under Allah," offer up Florida for any members of Al Qaeda to live, and continue smoking.
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Beats Bush's job.
 
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TennNC said:
don't forget, he'll also take away your guns, impose a one-child policy, force kids to start selling crack in elementary school, strip back the military to all but those protecting the White House, turn the White House into a pyramid, make fundamentalist Islam the official religion, change the Pledge to "Under Allah," offer up Florida for any members of Al Qaeda to live, and continue smoking.
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you do recall his comment to Joe the Plumber that we "have to get this bottom up economy" working.

I know you don't know much economics, but bottom up is not an economic principle. It's just populist silliness.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you do recall his comment to Joe the Plumber that we "have to get this bottom up economy" working.

I know you don't know much economics, but bottom up is not an economic principle. It's just populist silliness.
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shhh.... he's on a roll
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you do recall his comment to Joe the Plumber that we "have to get this bottom up economy" working.

I know you don't know much economics, but bottom up is not an economic principle. It's just populist silliness.
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What I can't believe is that a lot of economists are supporting Obama even though he lists "cripple US business" as one of his priorities.
 
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TennNC said:
don't forget, (she'll) also take away your guns, impose a one-child policy, (drive) your kids to start selling crack in elementary school, strip (for) the military but those protecting the White House (get Special benefits), turn the White House into a pyramid (decorating changes), make fundamentalist Islam the official religion (of NC), change the (Sex) to "(Over) Allah," offer up Florida (to the highest bidder) for Al Qaeda to live, and continue smoking (pot).
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hey my wife is not running for president so leave her out of it

I did make the necessary changes marked by parenthesis so that it would apply.
 
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TennNC said:
What I can't believe is that a lot of economists are supporting Obama even though he lists "cripple US business" as one of his priorities.
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you seriously don't believe that a slew of academicians would support a socialist?

You do know that there are economists who believe capitalism is an obomination (pun intended)? Those who completely buy the Marx theories?

Crippling business is just incorrect, but he will no doubt stifle investment by reducing returns. Couch it any way you wish and hide behind Obama slurpers, but his policies will hurt small business owners even as he's talking about putting people back to work.
 
#75
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BigPapaVol said:
doesn't scare me, but he's a capitalist and not an economist. He has enough money that he has passed the threshold of taxes eating away his base of investment, so he has lost sight of what taxes does to small businesses. I don't like that in the least.

I do think the Buffet situation is pure headline grabbing politics rather than staff building.
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I think that we learned yesterday that even economist can make big mistakes. If we are investing 700 billion plus dollars into the market then Buffet is the man we want watching the hen house which I understood was a possibility of choice by both candidates.
 
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