Race and fear: ugly comments

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TennNC said:
my "way" is hyperbole when I feel the post deserves it.

to cut the crap, I'd love to see evidence that banks are telling companies this will happen because of an Obama administration's policies, no mind that the election hasn't happened, Obama hasn't named his cabinet nor taken office, nor do we know what the economic environment will be like come mid Jan. Maybe their fears have more to do with what has happened BEFORE Obama MIGHT become president.

Are you saying all will be well with banks and biz if McCain wins?

Please, provide that for me.

also, btw, "cripple" implies serious, and perhaps permanent, damage.
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Former Bank of America CEO Hugh McColl Endorses Barack Obama
 
#128
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MG1968 said:
so you're saying that anybody in their early to mid-70's will be senile before they're 80?
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yes, and anyone in their early to mid-60s will be senile before they're 85. and anyone in their early to mid-50s will be senile before they're 87. And anyone in their early to mid 30s will be senile before they're 94.

Get it?

There's a math equation for this that's pretty common knowledge.
 
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#131
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TennNC said:
my "way" is hyperbole when I feel the post deserves it.

to cut the crap, I'd love to see evidence that banks are telling companies this will happen because of an Obama administration's policies, no mind that the election hasn't happened, Obama hasn't named his cabinet nor taken office, nor do we know what the economic environment will be like come mid Jan. Maybe their fears have more to do with what has happened BEFORE Obama MIGHT become president.

Are you saying all will be well with banks and biz if McCain wins?
Please, provide that for me.

also, btw, "cripple" implies serious, and perhaps permanent, damage.
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the banks are not going to put it on paper for fear of a backlash and accusations of racism....i have first hand knowledge of the banks fearing an Obama administration which i will not post here (i know, i know you do not believe me and that is your right) the fear comes from the things happenning now in part, but the fact that BHO will most likely be the POTUS, scares the heck out of the financial markets
and yes, "cripple" is exactly the word i mean

tell me NC, do you own or are you in management of a business...if you are, call your bank and see what your credit line will be for next year and then ask them why they are dropping it so much....or just keep spoutting your BHO kool-aid
 
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KB5252 said:
Isn't Bank of America one of the very banks that is in serious trouble in a large part because of their own doing over the years?
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shhhh...that part does not support their arguement
 
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KB5252 said:
Isn't Bank of America one of the very banks that is in serious trouble in a large part because of their own doing over the years?
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Well, I'm not a banking expert (see: BigPapaVol), but I think BofA is doing better than most. It's Wachovia/First Union that was utterly destroyed.
 
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MG1968 said:
ok, if your post was sarcasm, why all the handwringing over McCain's age? If you're serious then I feel sorry for you.

TennNC too.
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Can't speak for TennNC, but my post was definitely in jest. Personally, i do think McCain's age/health is a legitimate issue, but that's mostly b/c of his history of cancer and his choice of backup president. For the record, I don't think he's senile.
 
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notverycrucial said:
Can't speak for TennNC, but my post was definitely in jest. Personally, i do think McCain's age/health is a legitimate issue, but that's mostly b/c of his history of cancer and his choice of backup president. For the record, I don't think he's senile.
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i said, way back in the spring, that JM's biggest problem was the "geezer" factor...and i know, i know, he has LOTS more problems than that
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
What would you say his "minimal" role was?
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IMO, the main culprits are:

1) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for promoting use of questionable mortgage instruments and tactics that fueled the demand for buying opportunities. 50%

2) The greed of people who bought solely to flip, though I admit that its not a moral failing, just objectively a contributor to the problem. 15%

3) The greed of the people who both packaged the loans for sale to funds and the people who bought them, trying to cash in on the resale of the mortgage instruments. Again, not moral, just added to the problem. 15%

4) Those people who bought for purposes of having a residence without thinking through the obligation they were taking on while being concerned that they had to act more quickly than they should in order to buy what they could afford. 10%

5) Government failure to regulate the mortgage financing industry. 5%

6) Government failure to act when it became apparent that there was a bubble expanding at the rate that it did. 5%
 
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#143
How do we keep interchanging greed with profit motive. Our economy is essentially steeped in this idea, but we've let our idiotic media point to profitability as a bad thing.

Someone villifying a company for legitimately making profits or an individual for trying to make a return should be summarily fired, ignored and ostracized.
 
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T-TownVol said:
tell me NC, do you own or are you in management of a business...if you are, call your bank and see what your credit line will be for next year and then ask them why they are dropping it so much....or just keep spoutting your BHO kool-aid
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No, but the CEO of our $25mm revenue company, a lifelong Republican, supports BHO. So either he's masochistic, or he sees it different than you do.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
How do we keep interchanging greed with profit motive. Our economy is essentially steeped in this idea, but we've let our idiotic media point to profitability as a bad thing.

Someone villifying a company for legitimately making profits or an individual for trying to make a return should be summarily fired, ignored and ostracized.
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or, elected POTUS
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Someone villifying a company for legitimately making profits or an individual for trying to make a return should be summarily fired, ignored and ostracized.
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I agree that we also should ostracize those who try to vilify a candidate for success raising unprecedented amounts of money during a campaign.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I have to assume he isn't the owner.
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He is. There are other owners, nearly all who also support BHO. But the chief who has voted GOP 99% of his life and owns the largest chunk of the company, thinks BHO is the man for the job.

What's the world coming to?
 
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TennNC said:
No, but the CEO of our $25mm revenue company, a lifelong Republican, supports BHO. So either he's masochistic, or he sees it different than you do.
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OK, good luck to your small business and it's CEO...I would update the resume though because the everyday employees will be the first to be let go
 
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