Rally to Restore Sanity

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#76

No, Not really. I know you really want there to be 500,000 people in those pictures, but there is absolutely zero evidence to support that. All of the evidence, including an estimation by an independent company that does this professionally, says otherwise.

I'm willing to listen to arguments that aren't based on your aerial photo estimation skills.
 
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#77
No, Not really. I know you really want there to be 500,000 people in those pictures, but there is absolutely zero evidence to support that. All of the evidence, including an estimation by an independent company that does this professionally, says otherwise.

I'm willing to listen to arguments that aren't based on your aerial photo estimation skills.

can you imagine the company that estimates this stuff professionally? Seriously?

Now, can you imagine an independent company in that business?
 
#78
#78
can you imagine the company that estimates this stuff professionally?
Yes.
Seriously?
Yes.
Digital Design and Imaging Services, Inc.

Some of their Services:

Architectural Marketing Photgraphy
Thermal Scanning Service
Powerline and Wind Turbine Simulation Services
Balloon Test & Simulation Services
Crowd counting services: Aerial documentation and professional, unbiased size analysis of large outdoor gatherings. Includes time-lapse quantification of people or vehicles entering or exiting large outdoor spaces. Capabilities include infrared / night vision monitoring of long duration events.


Now, can you imagine an independent company in that business?
Yes.

I'm sure Beck & Followers tried night and day to dig any dirt on this company. None found.
 
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#79
I'm sure Beck & Followers tried night and day to dig any dirt on this company. None found.

nobody's digging dirt on the company because nobody cares. Further, why does a company need to have dirt to be biased as all hell in their reporting? Who hired them? Why? What's the point of the outfit that commissioned this "independent" study?

Come on, both sides are full of crap and the truth is somewhere in the middle.
 
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#81
nobody's digging dirt on the company because nobody cares. .
Really? Glenn Beck said on his show on August 30th that he was counting the crowd and that the estimate of 87,000 was horribly low, due to media bias.

September 27th, now

..crickets....

As I said before, I'd be willing to listen to any, even one tiny iota of evidence that supports 300 - 500,000.

In order to bring more clarity to the crowd estimation process, Hotsheet asked Curt Westergard, the president of AirPhotosLive.com, to discuss his methods. Westergard's company has done aerial imaging for the U.S. border patrol, the Department of Homeland Security, companies building skyscrapers and cell phone companies trying to decide where to build their towers, among others.

"People hire us to get a really detailed view of what's on the ground," he said.

The company sometimes uses these images for crowd estimates, both generating its own estimates and partnering with Professor Stephen Doig of Arizona State University, a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and crowd estimate expert, to come up with figures. For President Obama's inauguration last year, the company worked with Doig and GeoEye satellite data to generate a crowd estimate on behalf of CNN that was cited by the Associated Press and other news outlets.

To calculate attendance at the Beck rally, AirPhotosLive.com used what is called a surveillance aerostat balloon to take pictures from both above the event and closer to the ground. In the video above, which was provided by the company, you can see some of the images used to come up with a figure.

The balloon, Westergard said, gave the company the capacity to move up and down, allowing it to photograph people who were standing beneath trees in addition to taking photos from high above.

The company generated its own estimate and asked Doig to separately one on his own. Though Doig and AirPhotosLive.com employ slightly different methodologies, both use a method that involves laying grids over the high-resolution images and counting the density per unit of each grid cell.

Doig estimated that there were 80,000 people at the "Restoring Honor" rally, while AirPhotosLive.com estimated that there were 87,000 people, a statistically insignificant different since the margin of error was 9,000. CBS News elected to use the higher estimate.
 
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#84
The debate over the size of the crowd continues.

As accurate a predictor of the merit of Beck's arguments as is the color of his shoes.
 
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I've never said the crowd size was important.

Glenn Beck has though.

Ummm. You are the one sitting here making claims people are saying 500K. You are the one digging up info on some estimator. Clearly it must be important for you because that's all you seem to want to discuss. Including making up stories about it. I never said 500K. I never said 300K. You are the one basing your defense on a train which that argument is a waste. You're on here basically arguing with Beck on the matter.

On another note, I see Huffington was on the Daily Show saying they are providing buses to ship people in there. I guess buses seem to be the method after all.
 
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Ummm. You are the one sitting here making claims people are saying 500K. You are the one digging up info on some estimator. Clearly it must be important for you because that's all you seem to want to discuss. Including making up stories about it. I never said 500K. I never said 300K. You are the one basing your defense on a train which that argument is a waste. You're on here basically arguing with Beck on the matter.

On another note, I see Huffington was on the Daily Show saying they are providing buses to ship people in there. I guess buses seem to be the method after all.

Buses paid for by union dues.
 
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I think this pretty well demonstrates where you stand on the issues burgerboy!

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#92
One of the official sponsors for Saturday's event was the Communist Party USA. Seeing the assortment of fringe left gathered there, I'm sure that will be the reason the Left will claim the crowd was small. But they will still have to explain the NAACP and people like Wallis being leaders there as well.
 
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THE FREEDOM POST: ONE NATION RALLY - DEMOCRATS, SOCIALISTS, AND COMMUNISTS

This is appalling and nauseating. These are not
your father's Democrats! Speaking of my Dad
(God rest his soul), he used to say, "Birds of a
feather, flock together!".


The folks at Americans for Prosperity put together
this video which highlights the many groups of self-
identified communists and socialists that were in
attendance. What do they have in common?

All Democrats and all Obama supporters:

The Looking Spoon: A Conservative Humor, Satire and Commentary Blog

Not one tenth as many people but ten times
the trash left afterwards.

That pretty well says it all.


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Sort of like election day, these people count
the dead and those who show up seven times
the same day.

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#97
Ummm. You are the one sitting here making claims people are saying 500K. You are the one digging up info on some estimator. Clearly it must be important
Context man. Context. I was replying to lawgators claim that I think whoever has the biggest crowd is "right." I have never said hat.



On another note, I see Huffington was on the Daily Show saying they are providing buses to ship people in there. I guess buses seem to be the method after all.

Because one group is offering buses makes it the "method?" :crazy: There is only one major "method," and you obviously haven't spent enough time in DC to figure it out. I wonder if the locals are going to Bus in?v
 
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A detailed analysis of polls show that democrats
are likely to lose from 64 to 93 seats in the house.

This isn't just their largest defeat since 1994, this
is could be their largest defeat since 1894 when
republicans gained 100 seats! :)
 

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