Ramar

#51
#51
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
Who says UT couldn't be one of those unexpected teams next year?
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Easy, cowboy. We all want UT to be "one of those unexpected teams next year." But to say that we are going to be better than LSU and mention the Final Four is as crazy as the lunatics predicting an undefeated football season.

I'm totally behind Pearl and the basket-Vols, but give it a couple of years.
 
#52
#52
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
Who says UT couldn't be one of those unexpected teams next year?
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I'm not saying it isn't possible, it just seems like you are proclaiming there is no chance of it not happening. UT could beat LSU next year, but I would still call it a longshot. I'll pull for the Vols, but I won't bet on them against LSU.
 
#53
#53
It depends on the style ran. Pearl's system won't work without depth, look at how we were at the end of last year.
 
#54
#54
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
Who says UT couldn't be one of those unexpected teams next year?
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I'm not saying it's impossible. I would simply raise this question: When was the last time a team dependent on the contributions of at least 4 freshmen went to the Final Four?
 
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#55
I don't think many people would bet on. People wouldn't have bet on us against Texas last year, nor Florida, nor Florida, nor us gettin to the 2nd round(at the start of the year). I just don't see how LSU is so much better than us for next year. We both have ?s. If Ramar doesn't get in(which I don't expect), we won't even duplicate last year.
 
#56
#56
Would the answer be the Fab 5?

And why are we depending on 4? I don't see us depending on more than 3, with 2 others in for depth.
 
#57
#57
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
I don't think many people would bet on. People wouldn't have bet on us against Texas last year, nor Florida, nor Florida, nor us gettin to the 2nd round(at the start of the year). I just don't see how LSU is so much better than us for next year. We both have ?s. If Ramar doesn't get in(which I don't expect), we won't even duplicate last year.
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I'm not sure we duplicate last year even with Smith.
 
#58
#58
I'll guarantee right now that we do if he gets in. Mark it down. But like I said, I don't think he gets in.

Answer my previous post.
 
#59
#59
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
I don't think many people would bet on. People wouldn't have bet on us against Texas last year, nor Florida, nor Florida, nor us gettin to the 2nd round(at the start of the year). I just don't see how LSU is so much better than us for next year. We both have ?s. If Ramar doesn't get in(which I don't expect), we won't even duplicate last year.
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Moving along...
 
#60
#60
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
I'll guarantee right now that we do if he gets in. Mark it down. But like I said, I don't think he gets in.

Answer my previous post.
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I was going to, then you phrased it as a demand. I don't do demands.
 
#61
#61
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
I'll guarantee right now that we do if he gets in. Mark it down. But like I said, I don't think he gets in.

Answer my previous post.
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I don't think you are far off hv. Ramar is a special player and everyone else will have had another year in Pearl's system.

I think saying that this years team has final four talent with Ramar is less outrageous than predicting last years team would be a #2 seed.
 
#62
#62
Hmmm, hat, X my previous answer of the fab 5.

When was the last time a Final 4 team relied on at least 4 FR? Actually it was last year. Tasmin Mitchell, Tyrus Thomas, and Ben Voogd were all starters and freshmen. Garrett Temple and Magnum Rolle were 2 of their 3 main bench players. Temple also started some as well. 4 potential starters and 1 bench player.
 
#64
#64
(vol_freak @ Jul 30 said:
I think saying that this years team has final four talent with Ramar is less outrageous than predicting last years team would be a #2 seed.
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:eek:lol: True. But, giving us a #2 seed last year might be the most outrageous of the lot.
 
#65
#65
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
Hmmm, hat, X my previous answer of the fab 5.

When was the last time a Final 4 team relied on at least 4 FR? Actually it was last year. Tasmin Mitchell, Tyrus Thomas, and Ben Voogd were all starters and freshmen. Garrett Temple and Magnum Rolle were 2 of their 3 main bench players. Temple also started some as well. 4 potential starters and 1 bench player.
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If you want to say LSU "relied" on Voogd or Rolle last year, go right ahead. How many combined minutes did those two play in the entire NCAA tournament? They 'relied" on Voogd so much they had Darrell Mitchell play out of position after Ben single handedly lost the Ohio State game for them.
 
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#66
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
Just as I thought....

:cry: :cry: :cry:
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Thomas was also a redshirt freshman. He had a year in a quality weight program and a full season of practicing and watching Brandon Bass and Davis.
 
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And we won't rely on more than 3 of ours. If Smith gets in, Tabb and Johnson will be pretty far down the line for minutes. Mitchell, Thomas, and Temple were relied on about as much as Chism, Crews, and Smith will be. Johnson and Tabb will have less minutes than Voogd and Rolle did.
 
#68
#68
That is true, but you didn't say anything about redshirting. Either way, none of the players we have coming in need a year to develop the muscle. From every report I've heard, their bodies are, for the most part, SEC ready, especially Crews, Chism, and Smith. I'm not saying a RS year wouldn't help, but it isn't as necessary as it was for TT.
 
#69
#69
I hope that the clearing house's seemingly slow response in regards to Ramar Smith isn't bad news for him & Tennessee basketball. Considering what I've read about him, I'd really like to see him wearing the Big Orange this year.

As far as the Final 4 goes, without Ramar, I just hope we get in the NCAA tourney again this upcoming season. Bruce Pearl is a great coach, but don't forget that we are gonna have to rely alot on newcomers. Even with Ramar, I'm not looking into Final 4 tics just yet. Let's get back into the tourney, and see if we can advance one step further than last year.
 
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
Would the answer be the Fab 5?

And why are we depending on 4? I don't see us depending on more than 3, with 2 others in for depth.
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Since you want an answer so badly, you're obviously counting on Crews and Smith to start. Chism will have to play huge minutes. That leaves UT with two options. One, play Jordan Howell as the backup point, which will be an absolute disaster. The other option is to play Johnson, Tabb,or some combination of the two considerable minutes. That gets you to at least 4. If Passley turns out to be as overrated as I think, UT would end up playing 5 freshmen serious minutes.
 
#72
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 30 said:
And we won't rely on more than 3 of ours. If Smith gets in, Tabb and Johnson will be pretty far down the line for minutes. Mitchell, Thomas, and Temple were relied on about as much as Chism, Crews, and Smith will be. Johnson and Tabb will have less minutes than Voogd and Rolle did.
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If Johnson and Tabb play that little, that means big minutes for Jordan Howell. That spells doom.
 
#73
#73
I don't see that scenario at all. Yes, Crews and Smith starting(maybe Chism as well). What would be a disaster about Howell backing up PG? He did it last year and it was too disastrous. If he can't get it done, Tabb or Johnson could pick up a few of the minutes with Howell. That wouldn't be considerable minutes, maybe 5, at most 7. I don't see your beef with Passley, how many times have you watched him play with UT? Either way, he will be a backup as it is behind Bradshaw. Bradshaw would likely be getting at least 25 minutes. If Passley isn't good enough to hold his ground at SF, then Johnson may need to scoop up some of those minutes. I could see Smith, Crews, and Chism averaging 25 minutes, and the other 2 getting 5-7, which isn't considerable.
 
#75
#75
PG(40)
Smith-20
Howell-9
Tabb-7
Johnson-4

SG(40)-
Lofton-25
Smith-15

SF(40)
Bradshaw-25
Passley-12
Johnson-3

PF(40)
Crews-25
Chism-10
Childress-5

C(40)
Wingate-25
Chism-15
 
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