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#77
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
I don't see that scenario at all. Yes, Crews and Smith starting(maybe Chism as well). What would be a disaster about Howell backing up PG? He did it last year and it was too disastrous. If he can't get it done, Tabb or Johnson could pick up a few of the minutes with Howell. That wouldn't be considerable minutes, maybe 5, at most 7. I don't see your beef with Passley, how many times have you watched him play with UT? Either way, he will be a backup as it is behind Bradshaw. Bradshaw would likely be getting at least 25 minutes. If Passley isn't good enough to hold his ground at SF, then Johnson may need to scoop up some of those minutes. I could see Smith, Crews, and Chism averaging 25 minutes, and the other 2 getting 5-7, which isn't considerable.
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If we're playing Smith, who will essentially be learning to play point guard on the fly, 33-35 minutes a night there will be a whole plethora of problems. Also, if Johnson and Tabb aren't good enough to eat into Bradshaw's minutes, they are overrated. I saw passley in all the open scrimmages and a couple of practices last year. If he plays more than 10-12 minutes a night, we have a serious talent deficiency.
 
#79
#79
He played PG in AAU. I don't see anyone on the team playing 33-35 minutes. He is at no more than 25. I don't see Tabb at the 3 and neither were rated too highly as it is. Tabb will be a defensive stopper and Johnson has alot to improve on. You saw him last year and you are basing what he will do this year on that. Yeah, that is really intelligent. I'm pretty sure a year under Pearl might have improved him just a little.
 
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
He played PG in AAU. I don't see anyone on the team playing 33-35 minutes. He is at no more than 25. I don't see Tabb at the 3 and neither were rated too highly as it is. Tabb will be a defensive stopper and Johnson has alot to improve on. You saw him last year and you are basing what he will do this year on that. Yeah, that is really intelligent. I'm pretty sure a year under Pearl might have improved him just a little.
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Considering the practices I saw were in late February, Passley already had most of the year behind him. He is what he is: a guy we recruited to get his brother. There's a reason he started his career at Wisconsin-Milwaukee. That's the level he's best suited to play at.
 
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And it isn't possible for players at that level to excel. Rightttttt. He isn't a starter anyways. He gets no more than 15. Again, if you aren't gonna bring anything stronger than bashing an individual player, don't waste my time. It's like arguing with a 10 year old.
 
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
And it isn't possible for players at that level to excel. Rightttttt. He isn't a starter anyways. He gets no more than 15. Again, if you aren't gonna bring anything stronger than bashing an individual player, don't waste my time. It's like arguing with a 10 year old.
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You asked for reason why this isn't a Final Four contender with Ramar Smith. I would think evaluating the personnel would be a key part of making that determination. Not all of us are complete sellout homers like you. Tell me again how Dane Bradshaw can play the point at the SEC level again.
 
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
And it isn't possible for players at that level to excel. Rightttttt. He isn't a starter anyways. He gets no more than 15. Again, if you aren't gonna bring anything stronger than bashing an individual player, don't waste my time. It's like arguing with a 10 year old.
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Give me a break. Your logic is so consistently bad I think Dr. Spock is rolling over in his grave.
 
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(kptvol @ Jul 31 said:
Give me a break. Your logic is so consistently bad I think Dr. Spock is rolling over in his grave.
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His only logic is this: Everyone on UT's roster will be great and all other teams will fall back to the pack.
 
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and yours is just the opposite: everyone else's players are great and ours will fall back in the pack.

If you haven't seen the team play since February you might be surprised by Jordan Howell. Think in your mind how much he progressed last year. He went from a kid who couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time to a kid that played with a lot of confidence down the stretch and made a few key baskets for us.

I have seen him play recently and I think he has continued to improve at a tremendous pace. The confidence Pearl has given him is incredible. I am not saying he is headed to the NBA or anything, but I don't think you are giving him enough credit. I think he will give us legitimate backup minutes at the point without problem.
 
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(vol_freak @ Jul 31 said:
and yours is just the opposite: everyone else's players are great and ours will fall back in the pack.

If you haven't seen the team play since February you might be surprised by Jordan Howell. Think in your mind how much he progressed last year. He went from a kid who couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time to a kid that played with a lot of confidence down the stretch and made a few key baskets for us.

I have seen him play recently and I think he has continued to improve at a tremendous pace. The confidence Pearl has given him is incredible. I am not saying he is headed to the NBA or anything, but I don't think you are giving him enough credit. I think he will give us legitimate backup minutes at the point without problem.
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I stand by me assessment. Howell playing 10+ minutes per game=NIT.
 
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(hatvol96 @ Jul 31 said:
I stand by me assessment. Howell playing 10+ minutes per game=NIT.
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If you insist on being wrong, that's ok with me. :lol:
 
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I know you are being a little over dramatic to make your point Hat, but I can say I am 100% confident that Howell can play 10 minutes a game and the impact he has in those 10 minutes would not make this team NIT bound. If he started and played 30+ minutes then sure I would have some doubts about how productive the team could be. But, the surrounding talent combined with the role he would have to play mean that Howell playing 10 minutes does not doom the team all the way down to NIT level.
 
#90
#90
How can you all be so down on this Tennessee basketball team. With ramar we can be almost (give cj is a big loss) as powerful at pg. Ramar not only has the passing skills that C.J. had but hes also a better shooter. Now with that said he will be a freshman and will of course not be as good as watson was but he will most likley become BETTER than watson was. I dont know how you can possibly rule UT out of the final four. LSU AND Flordia(SEC teams) BOTH went to the final four. In SEC play UT swept Flordia and played reasonably well vs LSU. Last years UT team was FAR less tallented than the team we possesed two years ago and yet went much futher. With Pearl's amazing coaching and recruiting i dont think you can rule anyone out. I mean come one, look at last years team. Dane Bradshaw and Major Wingate are not very good players, yet we still come out on top. BTW, we got two HUGE additions to the post with Crews and Chism. I think this team is still on its way up.
 
#91
#91
I have heard that Ramar is more of a slasher than a shooter, and his outside game needs improvement. Not that shooting isnt something that can be worked on.
 
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#93
Keep one thing in mind, just because hat doesn't agree doesn't mean it's not so. :)

I don't think anyone would say George Mason had final four talent but they still made it.
 
#94
#94
Yeah, I remember a specific poster on this board that bashed George Mason up and down last year during the beginning of the tourney. Hmmm.....I wonder who that was.
 
#95
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
Yeah, I remember a specific poster on this board that bashed George Mason up and down last year during the beginning of the tourney. Hmmm.....I wonder who that was.
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If memory serves me correct, my attacks were more vociferous against Utah State and Air Force. How far did they go in the tournament?
 
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I'm not so sure about that. You basked Mason until they made the Sweet 16. Then you backtracked a little on Mason and said that they weren't as bad as you originally thought.
 
#97
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(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
I'm not so sure about that. You basked Mason until they made the Sweet 16. Then you backtracked a little on Mason and said that they weren't as bad as you originally thought.
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Oh, I'm not saying I didn't say they shouldn't have been in the tournament. I did. However, the two teams I attacked immediately were Utah State and Air Force. My main beef with GM was that they got in over a team, Hofstra, that had beaten them twice in the week leading up to the NCAA tournament.
 
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O, btw hat, did you happen to catch the June issue of Maxim? They had an interested top 10 list: the worst college coaches. Your boy Huggs made the list.
 
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#100
(hvwarrior58 @ Jul 31 said:
O, btw hat, did you happen to catch the June issue of Maxim? They had an interested top 10 list: the worst college coaches. Your boy Huggs made the list.
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Well, if the basketball experts at Maxim say it, it must be true.
 
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