reality check needed in bball thread

#28
#28
UneducatedGuess said:
I hope I'm wrong. I was simply trying to point out that the quality of basketball we are witnessing does not match expectations. To think otherwise is overly optimistic.

I hope CCM can light a fire, but halfway through the season, and I have little hope.

It reminds me of Jerry green years
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Are you 1 year old or did you not watch last year.

What was their record going into conference last year, and you question can he light a fire? What do you call last year lol
 
#29
#29
UT IE 95 said:
Laughable. Just a few days ago you were trying to convince people this team would be ranked after beating Memphis. You'll wait, I bet...
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And they may have been, but we will never know will we.

I'm being serious, not combative, who's expectations were greater than 8-4 heading into conference with no Maymon? There's actually a thread about Maymonless predictions, most are saying 15-20 wins, that's where this season appears to be headed. so who's expectations were greater than 8-4 heading into conference with no Maymon?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
And they may have been, but we will never know will we.

I'm being serious, not combative, who's expectations were greater than 8-4 heading into conference with no Maymon? There's actually a thread about Maymonless predictions, most are saying 15-20 wins, that's where this season appears to be headed. so who's expectations were greater than 8-4 heading into conference with no Maymon?
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First, you realize losing to Memphis thus not knowing if they would be ranked IS falling below expectations.

Second, when was the last time Maymon practiced with the team? We're half way through the season and somehow Maymon is still the excuse.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
First, you realize losing to Memphis thus not knowing if they would be ranked IS falling below expectations.

Second, when was the last time Maymon practiced with the team? We're half way through the season and somehow Maymon is still the excuse.
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No it's not. I never said THEY WILL win the next 3, I said if they do. So if I say...if Tennessee wins the next 27 games they'll be national champions and they dont, that means they fell below expectations?

So if Kentucky lost Anthony Davis last year, they still should've won the championship?

It's not an excuse as to game planning anymore, but taking away the best player on any team effects them. You really think this teams results should e the same with or without Maymon?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
No it's not. I never said THEY WILL win the next 3, I said if they do. So if I say...if Tennessee wins the next 27 games they'll be national champions and they dont, that means they fell below expectations?

So if Kentucky lost Anthony Davis last year, they still should've won the championship?

It's not an excuse as to game planning anymore, but taking away the best player on any team effects them. You really think this teams results should e the same with or without Maymon?
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This team should be NCAA bound with or without Maymon.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
No it's not. I never said THEY WILL win the next 3, I said if they do. So if I say...if Tennessee wins the next 27 games they'll be national champions and they dont, that means they fell below expectations?

So if Kentucky lost Anthony Davis last year, they still should've won the championship?

It's not an excuse as to game planning anymore, but taking away the best player on any team effects them. You really think this teams results should e the same with or without Maymon?
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Revisionists never fall below expectations. You were just throwing out guesses about winning 3 in a row. Never expected it, right?
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Revisionists never fall below expectations. You were just throwing out guesses about winning 3 in a row. Never expected it, right?
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You're interpreting things i say completely wrong.

Like I said, I said IF they win the next 3 they'll be ranked.

So if I say IF they win the next 27 they're national champions that's now me saying its my expectation?

I'm not following.
 
#37
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bleedingTNorange said:
I've said borderline NCAA with no maymon, most said borderline or missing, so really the expectations you were referring to were your own and nobody else's?
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It's a pretty sad situation when a team counts on Jeronne Maymon to be an NCAA team.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
It's a pretty sad situation when a team counts on Jeronne Maymon to be an NCAA team.
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It's sad when a team relies on their best player and leader? Take any teams best player away and see if they don't struggle.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You're interpreting things i say completely wrong.

Like I said, I said IF they win the next 3 they'll be ranked.

So if I say IF they win the next 27 they're national champions that's now me saying its my expectation?

I'm not following.
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Trying to draw some rational line between winning 3 home games we're favored in and 27 games is just out there. Not sure what to tell you other than, OK. You never thought we'd win 3 home games.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
It's a pretty sad situation when a team counts on Jeronne Maymon to be an NCAA team.
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It's sad that losing your best player and leader knocks you from being a 7-9 seed to bubble team? Or say 21-23 win team to 19-20 win team?

I'm not following...
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Trying to draw some rational line between winning 3 home games we're favored in and 27 games is just out there. Not sure what to tell you other than, OK. You never thought we'd win 3 home games.
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Would you like me to pull my quote where I predicted we'd go 2-1?
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
It's sad when a team relies on their best player and leader? Take any teams best player away and see if they don't struggle.
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College rosters turn over constantly - especially with the best players. Other players step up and the team moves on.
 
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Whether or not you wanted to call it bad defense, I have followed this Memphis team, and I don't think they have shot that well this year. They simply made shots and tough shots. To say that they didn't make tough shots is not being honest. Thomas, Crawford, and Jackson all shot well and played well. Only Jackson had been doing that. After all that, the Vols might have still won except for 2 contested 3's by Geron Johnson.

People are so quick to judge after every win or loss. It is never as good as you think or as bad as you think. I like how people speak in absolutes and somehow think they know what is going to happen at the end of the year. This team will struggle offensively again, but they can still do well in the SEC. I expect a tournament run.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Whether or not you wanted to call it bad defense, I have followed this Memphis team, and I don't think they have shot that well this year. They simply made shots and tough shots. To say that they didn't make tough shots is not being honest. Thomas, Crawford, and Jackson all shot well and played well. Only Jackson had been doing that. After all that, the Vols might have still won except for 2 contested 3's by Geron Johnson.

People are so quick to judge after every win or loss. It is never as good as you think or as bad as you think. I like how people speak in absolutes and somehow think they know what is going to happen at the end of the year. This team will struggle offensively again, but they can still do well in the SEC. I expect a tournament run.
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Very well said.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
It's a pretty sad situation when a team counts on Jeronne Maymon to be an NCAA team.
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Why? I have actually started to understand some of your arguments lately, but don't understand this. Maymon is UT's best low post scorer. It's the ability to have 12 and 10 every night that makes him big. We thought Stokes could but he is inconsistent. Plus, the presence of Maymon inside is huge for Stokes.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Why? I have actually started to understand some of your arguments lately, but don't understand this. Maymon is UT's best low post scorer. It's the ability to have 12 and 10 every night that makes him big. We thought Stokes could but he is inconsistent. Plus, the presence of Maymon inside is huge for Stokes.
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I agree. Just when I was starting to buy into some of 95's thoughts, he loses me with this one. Why is it so hard to believe we would struggle to make the tourney minus our most consistent player from the year before. Its not like we have a bevy of talent to plug in there in his stead.
 
#50
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VolGee4 said:
Why? I have actually started to understand some of your arguments lately, but don't understand this. Maymon is UT's best low post scorer. It's the ability to have 12 and 10 every night that makes him big. We thought Stokes could but he is inconsistent. Plus, the presence of Maymon inside is huge for Stokes.
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Not only would Maymon score 12 ppg and 10 boards a game, likely. He would also open up space and take pressure off for Stokes to score 3-5 more points and 2-4 more rebounds per game. Who knows what those two opening up the lanes together would do for our guards?
 
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