Record next year

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Wylo said:
We have some truly dumb fans. Anyone penciling in fla or GA as wins knows very little about football.
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I disagree, there is a little phrase called "any given Saturday". These games are notlikely wins but they are surely possible. We play UGA tough almost every year and FLA was an enigma last year. They played every team close until the end. Florida has a poor offense and lost several key parts to their defense.
 
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#127
gardners_51609 said:
I disagree, there is a little phrase called "any given Saturday". These games are notlikely wins but they are surely possible. We play UGA tough almost every year and FLA was an enigma last year. They played every team close until the end. Florida has a poor offense and lost several key parts to their defense.
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Smh
 
#128
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99gator said:
Smh
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What do you mean? You guys need to teach Driskell how to throw and get some receivers. And you are losing several key parts to your defense. You all recruit well and there will be new guys to give it a go. You can not honestly tell me that you thought UF would 11-1.

All streaks come to an end, I said it was unlikely that it will end next year, but who ever though Casey Clausen would have the greatest run against Florida of recent UT QB's. And we had no defense and still only lost to UGA and USCe by a total of 10 points with a chance to win both. Sure we are losing big parts to the offense, but we will have a real coach and hopefully a balnced offense and above average defense. And anything can happen, even Florida can go 11-1 with Jeff Driskell as their QB.
 
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#129
Many folks on here must have also posted last year when the same question was asked about the 2012 season record.

Answers are about the same; that is the fan base is way over estimating the UT team again in 2013. Going back to a 4-3 is not the cure all here folks to the defense. We are significantly undermanned on the field of play.
 
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Gardners man either your an AD plant with all of that CBJ kissing. Trying to hype up the fan base. Or the most optimistic person in the world! If the second applies for you and your family's sake don't bet anyone anything on Tennessee games next year man. CBJ might be a good coach but that is only half the battle in the SEC.
 
#132
#132
gardners_51609 said:
Austin Peay - W 52-6
Western KY - W 38-13
@ Oregon - L 24-13
@ Florida - L 21-17
South Alabama - W 48-7
Georgia - W 21-20
BYE
South Carolina - L 23-17
@ Alabama - L 31-13
@ Missouri - W 27-14
Auburn - W 24-21
BYE
Vandy - W 31-21
@ Kentucky - W 38-17

8-4 (5-3)

I think we are going to shock people this year. I believe in Butch. I have been excited about the season since Butch was hired but this thread got me down. It is an eye opener that some people are predicting only 3 or 4 wins.

Should be wins: Austin Peay, Western Kentucky, South Alabama and Kentucky

Most Likely Losses: Alabama

The other 7 teams I break down as follows:

Oregon: We will probably lose to Oregon, but we can hope that it takes them into October to get settled under their new coach.

Florida: Florida was a team that should have went 6-6 last year, but found ways to win. If they do not improve their offense and have new guys step up on defense this game could be very interesting. (of course this is assuming we have at least a mediocre and motivated defense).

Georgia and South Carolina: Tennessee always plays these two tough. Both teams make mistakes to keep their opponents in it until the end. These games could go either way.

Mizzou: If Tennessee had half a defense Mizzou would have not beat us last year. A good disciplined defense and balanced offense, Mizzou will not be able to win.

Auburn: There were not many teams worse than TN in the SEC last year but Auburn was. Tennessee has more contributors still around and Auburn had no offense and not much defense. The home team gets the edge.

Vandy: Tennessee has been the most talented for years and still is. But Franklin has Vandy playing motivated and believing what he is preaching. This game is in Knoxville and if Tennessee can play disciplined and motivated. Tennessee will take this one home.
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I agree with this 100%

I know we lost alot of weapons on the O---but remember how you felt after Peyton Manning left for the NFL. I remember thinking that was our last shot at a SEC title or NC for a while. Anything can happend next year just like back in 1998. I think we will be better that most think.GBO!!!
 
#133
#133
gardners_51609 said:
What do you mean? You guys need to teach Driskell how to throw and get some receivers. And you are losing several key parts to your defense. You all recruit well and there will be new guys to give it a go. You can not honestly tell me that you thought UF would 11-1.

All streaks come to an end, I said it was unlikely that it will end next year, but who ever though Casey Clausen would have the greatest run against Florida of recent UT QB's. And we had no defense and still only lost to UGA and USCe by a total of 10 points with a chance to win both. Sure we are losing big parts to the offense, but we will have a real coach and hopefully a balnced offense and above average defense. And anything can happen, even Florida can go 11-1 with Jeff Driskell as their QB.
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first of all, again, i buy the "any given saturday" belief. i do.

however, tennessee on the road, against anyone, has been a big problem. i won't go into any further detail other than to say that the last 3 trips to kentucky resulted in overtime, overtime, and a loss. only one of those games was coached by derek dooley. so any game with an "@" symbol next to it (hello missouri for people chalking that up as a no problem "w") should cause some significant pause.

in this particular case, with this particular game (tn-fl), not only is it a road game, but florida is a bad matchup and florida has a bye week before the tennessee game.

now, in general, if you go through that schedule, not only do several teams have better talent than tennessee, but most have more proven talent than tennessee.

so, taking a team on the road with less talent and experience than the opponent is not a recipe for success.
 
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99gator said:
first of all, again, i buy the "any given saturday" belief. i do.

however, tennessee on the road, against anyone, has been a big problem. i won't go into any further detail other than to say that the last 3 trips to kentucky resulted in overtime, overtime, and a loss. only one of those games was coached by derek dooley. so any game with an "@" symbol next to it (hello missouri for people chalking that up as a no problem "w") should cause some significant pause.

in this particular case, with this particular game (tn-fl), not only is it a road game, but florida is a bad matchup and florida has a bye week before the tennessee game.

now, in general, if you go through that schedule, not only do several teams have better talent than tennessee, but most have more proven talent than tennessee.

so, taking a team on the road with less talent and experience than the opponent is not a recipe for success.
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I agree.
 
#135
#135
99gator said:
first of all, again, i buy the "any given saturday" belief. i do.

however, tennessee on the road, against anyone, has been a big problem. i won't go into any further detail other than to say that the last 3 trips to kentucky resulted in overtime, overtime, and a loss. only one of those games was coached by derek dooley. so any game with an "@" symbol next to it (hello missouri for people chalking that up as a no problem "w") should cause some significant pause.

in this particular case, with this particular game (tn-fl), not only is it a road game, but florida is a bad matchup and florida has a bye week before the tennessee game.

now, in general, if you go through that schedule, not only do several teams have better talent than tennessee, but most have more proven talent than tennessee.

so, taking a team on the road with less talent and experience than the opponent is not a recipe for success.
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I agree. My point is only that Tennessee had more talent than their record last year. And Florida was not nearly as good as their record. This coming year Tennessee changes a lot, but maybe for the good. I am not saying we win in Florida (in fact I give us a <10% chance) but I think we will be more motivated than the last 4-5 years this year. I think Butch will motivate us and that sometime goes a lot further than talent and can transcend inexperience. Vandy is one of the least talented teams in the SEC but they went 8-4. Auburn had a lot of talent and went winless in the SEC. Talent and youth is hard to overcome but motivation can make these teams competitive.
 
#136
#136
gardners_51609 said:
I agree. My point is only that Tennessee had more talent than their record last year. And Florida was not nearly as good as their record. This coming year Tennessee changes a lot, but maybe for the good. I am not saying we win in Florida (in fact I give us a <10% chance) but I think we will be more motivated than the last 4-5 years this year. I think Butch will motivate us and that sometime goes a lot further than talent and can transcend inexperience. Vandy is one of the least talented teams in the SEC but they went 8-4. Auburn had a lot of talent and went winless in the SEC. Talent and youth is hard to overcome but motivation can make these teams competitive.
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I think Tennessee did have more talent than their record.

However, a lot of the talent that made me have that belief just left town
 
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#137
gardners_51609 said:
Austin Peay - W 52-6
Western KY - W 38-13
@ Oregon - L 24-13
@ Florida - L 21-17
South Alabama - W 48-7
Georgia - W 21-20
BYE
South Carolina - L 23-17
@ Alabama - L 31-13
@ Missouri - W 27-14
Auburn - W 24-21
BYE
Vandy - W 31-21
@ Kentucky - W 38-17

8-4 (5-3)

I think we are going to shock people this year. I believe in Butch. I have been excited about the season since Butch was hired but this thread got me down. It is an eye opener that some people are predicting only 3 or 4 wins.

Should be wins: Austin Peay, Western Kentucky, South Alabama and Kentucky

Most Likely Losses: Alabama

The other 7 teams I break down as follows:

Oregon: We will probably lose to Oregon, but we can hope that it takes them into October to get settled under their new coach.

Florida: Florida was a team that should have went 6-6 last year, but found ways to win. If they do not improve their offense and have new guys step up on defense this game could be very interesting. (of course this is assuming we have at least a mediocre and motivated defense).

Georgia and South Carolina: Tennessee always plays these two tough. Both teams make mistakes to keep their opponents in it until the end. These games could go either way.

Mizzou: If Tennessee had half a defense Mizzou would have not beat us last year. A good disciplined defense and balanced offense, Mizzou will not be able to win.

Auburn: There were not many teams worse than TN in the SEC last year but Auburn was. Tennessee has more contributors still around and Auburn had no offense and not much defense. The home team gets the edge.

Vandy: Tennessee has been the most talented for years and still is. But Franklin has Vandy playing motivated and believing what he is preaching. This game is in Knoxville and if Tennessee can play disciplined and motivated. Tennessee will take this one home.
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I dig that prediction. I hope we shock bammer and Fla. Go Vols!
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#138
#138
Some of you people are underestimating the power of good coaching. We sucked last year based solely on terrible coaching. That said, I'd say 6-8 wins. There is no reason we should not be able to win four SEC games.
 
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#141
gardners_51609 said:
Austin Peay - W 52-6
Western KY - W 38-13
@ Oregon - L 24-13
@ Florida - L 21-17
South Alabama - W 48-7
Georgia - W 21-20
BYE
South Carolina - L 23-17
@ Alabama - L 31-13
@ Missouri - W 27-14
Auburn - W 24-21
BYE
Vandy - W 31-21
@ Kentucky - W 38-17

8-4 (5-3)

I think we are going to shock people this year. I believe in Butch. I have been excited about the season since Butch was hired but this thread got me down. It is an eye opener that some people are predicting only 3 or 4 wins.

Should be wins: Austin Peay, Western Kentucky, South Alabama and Kentucky

Most Likely Losses: Alabama

The other 7 teams I break down as follows:

Oregon: We will probably lose to Oregon, but we can hope that it takes them into October to get settled under their new coach.

Florida: Florida was a team that should have went 6-6 last year, but found ways to win. If they do not improve their offense and have new guys step up on defense this game could be very interesting. (of course this is assuming we have at least a mediocre and motivated defense).

Georgia and South Carolina: Tennessee always plays these two tough. Both teams make mistakes to keep their opponents in it until the end. These games could go either way.

Mizzou: If Tennessee had half a defense Mizzou would have not beat us last year. A good disciplined defense and balanced offense, Mizzou will not be able to win.

Auburn: There were not many teams worse than TN in the SEC last year but Auburn was. Tennessee has more contributors still around and Auburn had no offense and not much defense. The home team gets the edge.

Vandy: Tennessee has been the most talented for years and still is. But Franklin has Vandy playing motivated and believing what he is preaching. This game is in Knoxville and if Tennessee can play disciplined and motivated. Tennessee will take this one home.[/QUOTE


Scores?!?! You're predicting scores?!?! You don't even know starting lineups yet! Heck, NSD's not even here yet. And you're predicting scores?
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#142
#142
Here's hoping we at least:

Get to a bowl game (requiring 6-6). And WOW does TN need a bowl game! ANY bowl game!
BEAT VANDY (to restore the balance of the Universe)
BEAT MISSOURI (to establish that TENNESSEE will NOT live in the SEC cellar rankings)
And LOOK like a team that doesn't quit doing it!

7-5 would be great, but I do think that requires that we steal one. Barring catastrophic failure (critical injuries, team chemistry melt-down, coaches turn out to stink, etc), I'm convinced 6 is a realistic starting point. Everything after that is gravy.
 
#143
#143
SIX! SIX SIX SIX SIX SIX! I see SIX so much it makes me sick! I`ll bet anyone 100$ we win more than 6 freaking games! We were a coach away from winning 12 last year. And possibly more if we could`ve beat bammer. That is NOT delusional. Florida will be tough. Bammer may be too t4ough. But putting ORE,UGA,SC,and Vandy in the "will be stomped by" column is just asinine. Oregon is a bunch of potsmoking Cali-boys who invariably get beat by GOOD SEC teams. Georgia lost a load of talent AND COME HERE! SC ALSO LOST A LOT AND WILL BE COMING WHEN WE ARE DIALED IN AND FIRED UP! God have mercy on CANDY! WE DANG SURE WILL ANNIHILATE THEM! GO VOLS!
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#144
#144
webbvol32 said:
six! Six six six six six! I see six so much it makes me sick! I`ll bet anyone 100$ we win more than 6 freaking games! We were a coach away from winning 12 last year. And possibly more if we could`ve beat bammer. That is not delusional. Florida will be tough. Bammer may be too t4ough. But putting ore,uga,sc,and vandy in the "will be stomped by" column is just asinine. Oregon is a bunch of potsmoking cali-boys who invariably get beat by good sec teams. Georgia lost a load of talent and come here! Sc also lost a lot and will be coming when we are dialed in and fired up! God have mercy on candy! We dang sure will annihilate them! Go vols!
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666? :)
 
#145
#145
WhiteRhino said:
No, he is not. Google Bama used PED's before bowl game and get back to me o Nostradamus of delusion.....
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How does Bama roiding up make saying 'UT lost solely because of coaching' less delusional?

Try coming up with a response other than 'Wrong!' followed by a non-sequitur argument that has nothing to do with the post you're replying to.
 
#146
#146
I don't understand all the people who think Vanderbilt isn't a "should win" game, but yet still support Coach Jones. I mean, we have more talent than Vanderbilt, our coaching staff is much higher paid and our facilities are much better. And the game is at the end of the season. If you don't think we "should" beat Vanderbilt this year, then how can you expect Coach Jones to do anything notable in his career at Tennessee? Might as well fire him now.
 
#147
#147
Obsessed said:
i dont know whats worse...going 6-6 or that 6-6 is a improvement
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Even though it's 6-6, we have to start somewhere. Not going to say I'll be happy with going 6-6, but if we do and this team shows improvement throughout the year and doesn't show any quit, then I'll at least be content and have a more positive outlook in 14.

99gator said:
the key to next season will be if the team mails it in after starting off poor or if they fight the whole season.
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In all honesty, I really don't think this will be an issue with this HC.

I'm not a 100% sold that he is the coach that will get us back to the promise land, but he is without a doubt a better coach than what we've had in the last few years. If nothing else, I don't think he will allow this team to quit and will find a way to keep them motivated.

I still think we finish 6-6, but that has more to do with the lack of SEC caliber talent at a lot of positions. Hopefully we have a strong finish with this recruiting class, because we really need it.
 
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oregonvol said:
I don't understand all the people who think Vanderbilt isn't a "should win" game, but yet still support Coach Jones. I mean, we have more talent than Vanderbilt, our coaching staff is much higher paid and our facilities are much better. And the game is at the end of the season. If you don't think we "should" beat Vanderbilt this year, then how can you expect Coach Jones to do anything notable in his career at Tennessee? Might as well fire him now.
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What proof do you have at this point that CBJ is a better HC than CJF? Jones hasn't coached a down of even spring football yet and CJF was named TSWA Coach-of-the-Year! Shouldn't you wait until at least a few games into the season before you start making comparisons of coaching ability?
 
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