Recruiting Coordinator Zach Azzanni

#52
#52
vollygirl said:
Who did we lose that we were supposed to get?
Click to expand...

No one. They flipped three. IMO everyone (I know I did) had hopes of landing Levenberry, Lawson and of course Bell and the class is considered a failure without them. I want to see what CBJ does with what he has before judging. Proof is on the field IMO.
 
#53
#53
bmaultbay said:
No one. They flipped three. IMO everyone (I know I did) had hopes of landing Levenberry, Lawson and of course Bell and the class is considered a failure without them. I want to see what CBJ does with what he has before judging. Proof is on the field IMO.
Click to expand...

I agree with all of this.
 
#54
#54
To be fair I see Dooley and his staff being more to blame for the recruiting class. The current staff did improve on the abomination of a recruiting class that they inherited from Dooley and company. Hopefully most of these guys signed will perform beyond expectations, because if they don't it is going to continue to hurt this football team for 4 years.

I never thought that I would see a UT recruiting class ranked behind Vanderbilt, but that really should be expected after 6+ years of futility on the field and a revolving door of coaches.
 
#56
#56
oregonvol said:
That 6'10 OT is the only one off the top of my head. But you can keep saying "who did we lose that we were supposed to get?" every year. Such a silly criteria. It doesn't mean you had a good recruiting class. It doesn't mean you didn't finish at the bottom of the conference.
Click to expand...


You mean the OL that followed the position coach he's had a relationship with for 2 years to Arkansas?
I was hoping you were just drunk yesterday, but you really are clueless.
 
#57
#57
I love how we get SEC failures (Martinez, Jancek, & Azz) and you jokers fawn over them. Once they show me something, I'll get on board. But based on their past work & current work here, they've shown nothing but skill at being bald
 
  • Like
Reactions: 4 people
#59
#59
oregonvol said:
What has this guy ever accomplished? I see he was at Flordia as WR coach for one year under Urban Meyer and the receivers were so poor UF fans were happy to get rid of him. I don't see any other impressive jobs on his resume or any major accomplishments. I don't see any testaments to some kind of recruiting prowess. Why is this guy on our staff and why is he our recruiting coordinator?
Click to expand...

sure laid a egg yesterday.lol
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#60
#60
jackaro said:
To be fair I see Dooley and his staff being more to blame for the recruiting class. The current staff did improve on the abomination of a recruiting class that they inherited from Dooley and company. Hopefully most of these guys signed will perform beyond expectations, because if they don't it is going to continue to hurt this football team for 4 years.

I never thought that I would see a UT recruiting class ranked behind Vanderbilt, but that really should be expected after 6+ years of futility on the field and a revolving door of coaches.
Click to expand...

YES....Dooley is the main culprit for our signing day. One poster said nobody expected Jones to come in and sign a top 10 class....well, we had a top 20 class. What were ya'll expecting, 11th? He had 31 days to actually be out there recruiting! If we have a 20th or worse ranked class next year, then yes, we can start the panic.

Vanderbilt was ranked ahead of us by 1 spot!!! They signed 26, we signed 21. If we would have taken anybody else, we would have been "ranked" higher. I would rather have our class than theirs. Instead, we have more spots for next year that we can take kids that we build relationships with.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#61
#61
oregonvol said:
Why must all you Vollyannas use a straw man argument? I know the facts aren't on your side, but you could certainly be more creative. No one expected Butch Jones to land a top 10 class. The problem is, he finished 11th in the SEC, behind Vanderbilt. He didn't gain any ground on anyone. If anything, he fell further behind.

Did he inherit a bad situation? Sure. But if you don't take big steps in improving that situation, it's never going to get any better. And I don't see Jones making any strides like the others who have been able to pull themselves out of the difficult situations they inherited. I mean, Hugh Freeze and James Franklin didn't walk into great situations either, but from the outset, you could see them making strides to improve things.
Click to expand...


You want facts. I'll give you facts. One data point, no matter how you count it, doesn't make a trend. Stick that in your pipe.
 
#62
#62
volinSmyrna said:
YES....Dooley is the main culprit for our signing day. One poster said nobody expected Jones to come in and sign a top 10 class....well, we had a top 20 class. What were ya'll expecting, 11th? He had 31 days to actually be out there recruiting! If we have a 20th or worse ranked class next year, then yes, we can start the panic.

Vanderbilt was ranked ahead of us by 1 spot!!! They signed 26, we signed 21. If we would have taken anybody else, we would have been "ranked" higher. I would rather have our class than theirs. Instead, we have more spots for next year that we can take kids that we build relationships with.
Click to expand...


Here's a hint: if you're even close with Vanderbilt, if you're saying "we almost caught them", if you're saying "we were just a spot behind" (or just 7 spots behind, according to ESPN), then your class is a failure.
 
#63
#63
oregonvol said:
Here's a hint: if you're even close with Vanderbilt, if you're saying "we almost caught them", if you're saying "we were just a spot behind" (or just 7 spots behind, according to ESPN), then your class is a failure.
Click to expand...

So I guess it is Coach Jones' fault that Vandy smacked out tail this year on the field. If it was Jones' fault that we were behind them in the recruiting rankings, that would follow your logic. :crazy: The guy had 31 days! You can't come in and undo the amount of crap that Doofey got us into in that amount of time. This is why we should have let him walk last year after Kentucky when he wanted out.
 
#65
#65
oregonvol said:
Why must all you Vollyannas use a straw man argument? I know the facts aren't on your side, but you could certainly be more creative. No one expected Butch Jones to land a top 10 class. The problem is, he finished 11th in the SEC, behind Vanderbilt. He didn't gain any ground on anyone. If anything, he fell further behind.

Did he inherit a bad situation? Sure. But if you don't take big steps in improving that situation, it's never going to get any better. And I don't see Jones making any strides like the others who have been able to pull themselves out of the difficult situations they inherited. I mean, Hugh Freeze and James Franklin didn't walk into great situations either, but from the outset, you could see them making strides to improve things.
Click to expand...

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2013 Team Recruiting Rankings

FACT: Rivals has UT at 20th overall and 10th in the SEC.
Tex A&M was 10th over all 6th in SEC Georgia was 12th overall and 7th in the SEC so for Tennessee to place in say the Top half of the conference they would have in fact had to land a Top 10 class.

Fact you have made dozens of posts, perhaps in the triple digits the last 2 days complaining about the same damn thing saying the same damn thing every single time. Stating something over and over again doesn't mean it is true, it just means you are annoying.
 
#68
#68
vollygirl said:
Who did we lose that we were supposed to get?
Click to expand...

It's not so much about losing someone we were supposed to get at this point as it is actually getting guys other SEC teams want.

I don't know that we signed a single guy yesterday who so much as had an offer from Alabama.

Until the talent gap closes, this program is going to flounder.
 
#69
#69
JonGrudensAgent said:
It's not so much about losing someone we were supposed to get at this point as it is actually getting guys other SEC teams want.

I don't know that we signed a single guy yesterday who so much as had an offer from Alabama.

Until the talent gap closes, this program is going to flounder.
Click to expand...

Do you put that on Jones?
 
#70
#70
oregonvol said:
Well, god bless you. I hope you're right (I was on board with the Jones hire myself until yesterday). That said, I've seen this all before. I don't want empty promises and subjective notions of "hard work" and "energy". I want results and I don't see any. I would like to think that the rebuilding has started, but I just can't find any evidence that we're gaining ground on anyone.
Click to expand...

Only way to get evidence for or against Jones is to watch the games at this point.

His first test was signing a solid recruiting class and adding difference makers as much as possible.

He failed that test yesterday IMO. It was a solid class by Big East standards but won't help in the SEC. Hopefully, he learned from the experience.

Win a few more games than they lose and get some positive momentum building for this program again this upcoming season. That's the next test.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 people
#72
#72
Some of you just wake up thinking of dumbass stuff to say. It's amazing the mentality, no wonder nobody wants to come here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#73
#73
oregonvol said:
What has this guy ever accomplished? I see he was at Flordia as WR coach for one year under Urban Meyer and the receivers were so poor UF fans were happy to get rid of him. I don't see any other impressive jobs on his resume or any major accomplishments. I don't see any testaments to some kind of recruiting prowess. Why is this guy on our staff and why is he our recruiting coordinator?
Click to expand...

The title dont mean nothing and we got a top 20,plus we were in on 4 or 5 top players to the end they have been on the job 8 weeks, done a heck of a job to start, expect a lot better class next year these recruits got to get to know the coaches we will be find dont panic could have been much worse.:rock:
 
#74
#74
vollygirl said:
Do you put that on Jones?
Click to expand...

Jones was a victim of circumstances beyond his control no doubt but whiffing on several major recruits yesterday was in his control.

You get your hat on the table with these kids and you have to be able to close with some of them.

Getting close to signing a recruit doesn't mean much. I don't care what kind of non-relationship Bell or others had with Dooley, it is Jones selling the program now and he didn't sell it well enough yesterday.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 person
#75
#75
JonGrudensAgent said:
Only way to get evidence for or against Jones is to watch the games at this point.

His first test was signing a solid recruiting class and adding difference makers as much as possible.

He failed that test yesterday IMO. It was a solid class by Big East standards but won't help in the SEC. Hopefully, he learned from the experience.

Win a few more games than they lose and get some positive momentum building for this program again this upcoming season. That's the next test.
Click to expand...
He passed the first test he was in on 4 or 5 to the last hour he had been recruiting these players for 8 weeks the other coaches have been recruiting them for a year or two.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top