Recruiting Football Talk VII

[eVOLve]

I think we are gonna eat on defense and special teams this week. If the offense gets going, I could see us winning by 2 scores

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I can’t disagree on their assessment of Milton.

On another topic they went over...I told all y'all all last year, despite limited playing time...that Pearce was a absolute freak. I think one time I even said he could be a all-timer here if he would just stick around...when others here were kinda saying no big deal if he left, I said that it would haunt us.

If you really payed attention or went back to watch replays of plays when he was in the game last year, it was abundantly obvious that he was super explosive.

You can really tell that he has worked super hard to refine that talent and listened to his coaching...he really could leave here mentioned in the same breath as the all-time Volunteer greats.

I also think Josephs has the potential to be great...he just isn't as refined yet, but he is also explosive as hell.

I would love to see them both continue to grow and someday be absolutely lethal bookends like Chris Mims and Chuck Smith (all you other old geezers will know exactly what that means) IMO they were the best bookend DEs we've ever had....they were devastating to passing games.

 

[Orange_Crush]

This is very instructive. Please TURN OFF THE SOUND and watch 3 times. That is exactly what you saw, and there was not a doubt in your mind that was flagrant uncalled defensive pass interference.

Now TURN ON THE SOUND and watch and listen. This is important. You will experience the exact moment that Gary "Bama" Danielson talked even most RF posters, not to mention the whole world, into completely ignoring the PI and turn the situation into an attack on Milton.

Danielson completely shirked his responsibility to focus on and call out the PI (here and elsewhere in our passing game). Danielson is the replay analyst.

Danielson created a false narrative. With respect to the blatant pass interference (which it was the responsibility of the replay analyst to explain, it was a complete impertinent whether a more perfect pass were possible. The pass was adequate and would have been caught without the flagrant uncalled foul. Consciously or unconsciously Danielson instead proceeded to overwrite the direct experience of his viewership with a criticism targeted at Milton. He did this regularly throughout the game.

Whether the resulting uproar on our board about Milton that Danielson launched leading into Bama week was a mere coincidence or a habit, or a desire of his own, one can't say with certainty. That he effectively covered for the officiating instead of thematizing it, as a competent and neutral analyst would have done, is beyond dispute.

My concern is how very many people in their posts in this forum I have seen repeating and elaborating at length on Danielson's anti-Tennessee and anti-Milton replacement for this (and other) game-changing calls. Remarkable people do this as if "recalling" "their own" experience of the game. Anyone and everyone who has replaced the primary issue of the grossly anti-Tennessee officiating and anti-Tennessee "analyst" commentary with their unconsciously imitative speeches about Milton has been Danielson-ized and had their memories tampered with.

And for anyone who wants to defend what "Bama" Danielson said (because they as viewers or rather hearers inadvertently permitted Danielson to cause themselves to believe that Danielson's speech was pertinent and in fact their own idea really needed to quietly perform the experiment I suggest. And calmly reflect on it, quietly and to themselves.

This is why television is so powerful.

As for Milton, if the game had been unbiasedly officiated, we would have had so large a lead that this negative "story" about Milton would be completely different. The offense would have been a great positive story, just like the defense. (To take one example: if not for the uncalled PI I am discussing, followed by another penalty moving us back, the play where Milton did not pick up the 4th and 2 on the scramble would never have occurred.

Considering also the similar, prominent uncalled PI in the endzone on a Milton pass. You will notice now that Danielson employed his same tactic there again of replacing the question of the blatant PI -- which wiped a TD off the board -- with an impertinent story about Milton's pass. The pass was adequate and the uncalled PI, not the pass, determined the outcome. In all likelihood we would have had 21 first quarter points.

Also note further -- and review some games from last year if this is not immediately evident to you -- the passes that Danielson was attacking Milton over on the two PIs that I am discussing were exactly like some passes that Hooker threw and completed last year. They were catchable passes made incomplete by cheating with impunity. The throw was not the fault. The SEC officiating and the coverup that Danielson sold were at fault.

As for Nico, we would have had so great a lead that Nico likely would have played and gotten SEC experience. The fault was the officiating, not Heupel's for not changing QBs, which latter is a false anti-Tennessee narrative, that is refuted by a close, circumspective look at the game replay.

This is the way.

 

[rikberry31]

So if we win 6-3 both games and Joe plays terribly we will love Joe for the wins.

Makes perfect sense.

And women don’t forget, they realize the pain is worth it for the gift of a child.

Exactly. We win 2-0 both games and all past sins will be forgiven. And women do forget, it might be because of the gift of children or that the pain of childbirth pales in comparison to the pain of raising children.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

I can’t disagree on their assessment of Milton.

Nope

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I just hope that the 1st half at Florida prevents the team from repeating that mistake.

Saturday needs to be hair on fire from the opening kick until you're loading the bus. Defense can and should be able to give Bama all they can handle and more, no excuses. You got plenty of talent now and guys have improved a ton. The younger LBs also have been getting tons of minutes with Pili getting hurt.

 

[rikberry31]

When has Milton ever had close to those stats even against awful teams?

Keep repeating this phrase, "We won a Natty (I'll take the old people's word on this) with a qb that was not great."

 

[jsteed]

I think we need 250 yards of total offense out of Milton to win. I think 60-80 needs to be runs. Running quarterbacks beat Saban. Watching last year's game and Hooker played great and ran a lot. If Milton can run, pick up some key first downs and keep them honest and then have 1 big pass play, I think our defense and run game is good enough to win.

 

[Glitch]

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Doubtless there are copperheads a plenty in this pic, but so what?

 

[Glitch]

Titans fans: get ready to break out the Hellmann’s following the bye week.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

He's better than stupid Will Anderson that's for sure.

Dude seriously?

 

[rikberry31]

On another topic they went over...I told all y'all all last year, despite limited playing time...that Pearce was a absolute freak. I think one time I even said he could be a all-timer here if he would just stick around...when others here were kinda saying no big deal if he left, I said that it would haunt us.

If you really payed attention or went back to watch replays of plays when he was in the game last year, it was abundantly obvious that he was super explosive.

You can really tell that he has worked super hard to refine that talent and listened to his coaching...he really could leave here mentioned in the same breath as the all-time Volunteer greats.

He keeps on playing like he has the past two games the greats will be mentioned in the same breath with him.

 

[Vol423]

I can’t disagree on their assessment of Milton.

I don't think I've seen this show before, but I liked it. That guy on the right looks a lot like Chris O'Donnell. They could be twins.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Keep repeating this phrase, "We won a Natty (I'll take the old people's word on this) with a qb that was not great."

Your takes are amazing lol. Keep changing them. As someone who has two kids as well, my wife would disagree with you.

Had surgery myself a few years ago that hurt like hell, but if it meant seeing my kids one more day, I would deal with it for one day to be with them. That’s why pain doesn’t matter.

I don’t know why you think Joe has been good and have some crazy obsession for him, but literally anyone that comments on football or knows anything about it would say he is not playing well and it’s going to cost us.

 

[peaygolf]

October 18, 1977
Mr. October.......
* 3 at bats
* 3 different pitchers
* 3 pitches
* 3 HRs
* 1 Legend

 

[rikberry31]

I think we need 250 yards of total offense out of Milton to win. I think 60-80 needs to be runs. Running quarterbacks beat Saban. Watching last year's game and Hooker played great and ran a lot. If Milton can run, pick up some key first downs and keep them honest and then have 1 big pass play, I think our defense and run game is good enough to win.

We need one more point than Alabama to win. I don't care if we have negative yardage on offense, Milton gets sacked 12 times, throws 8 interceptions, and they have 850 if the score is 7-6 us.

 

[KptVFL]

I can’t disagree on their assessment of Milton.

Enjoyed listening to his take. Starts at 56:38

 

[loosedog]

I think we need 250 yards of total offense out of Milton to win. I think 60-80 needs to be runs. Running quarterbacks beat Saban. Watching last year's game and Hooker played great and ran a lot. If Milton can run, pick up some key first downs and keep them honest and then have 1 big pass play, I think our defense and run game is good enough to win.

^^^^^ This

 

[rikberry31]

Your takes are amazing lol. Keep changing them. As someone who has two kids as well, my wife would disagree with you.

Had surgery myself a few years ago that hurt like hell, but if it meant seeing my kids one more day, I would deal with it for one day to be with them. That’s why pain doesn’t matter.

I don’t know why you think Joe has been good and have some crazy obsession for him, but literally anyone that comments on football or knows anything about it would say he is not playing well and it’s going to cost us.

I never once said that Joe was a good qb. I said that if he is or not doesn't matter. All that matters is that we win. It is the only stat that matters in the end.

 

[Ashevolle]

October 18, 1977
Mr. October.......
* 3 at bats
* 3 different pitchers
* 3 pitches
* 3 HRs
* 1 Legend


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Never gets old.

 

[drvenner]

So, I asked my boss if I could have a few days off because I have a little cough. He laughed and said what kind of cough. I said, you know, a small one. A wee cough. He said, you have a wee cough!! I said, wow, thanks, I will see you next week.

 

[VolNash17]

 

[Vol423]

I think we need 250 yards of total offense out of Milton to win. I think 60-80 needs to be runs. Running quarterbacks beat Saban. Watching last year's game and Hooker played great and ran a lot. If Milton can run, pick up some key first downs and keep them honest and then have 1 big pass play, I think our defense and run game is good enough to win.

Milton isn't running for 60-80 yards against Bama. You can forget that crap. All of you guys that keep trying to make Milton into a running QB - He is NOT a running QB. The guy doesn't like contact, and he isn't elusive.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

There are a lot of good iconic songs that most people would know that are not country that would be more up beat. You are correct on the rap / hip-hop. Many in the crowd would not know the songs and many of the old timers' heads would explode. I think you could find something from the 2000's that is a little more relevant and mainstream that would be a crowd pleaser.

Karma Chameleon?

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I can’t disagree on their assessment of Milton.

Wow....I thought I was being hard on Joe ...but it was all 100% truth. One thing that interested me is according to everyone on here, Joe is a big team favorite and pulling him would be a disaster for team chemistry, but they make points that are hard to dismiss about how the team is probably really feeling about Joe screwing up so badly and so often.

So many here are parroting the "WRs aren't getting separation" idea...but I think they are still getting schemed open a lot but it is being missed by Joe and he is not looking to the right spots....Kyler and Bacon just confirmed that suspicion for me.