Recruiting Football Talk VII

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What exactly is there to be displeased about with us in basketball or baseball? Don’t get it. We should be a favored program in both of those sports with how well we’ve performed.
The way Sankey handled our NCAA case should tell us all how much he hates and despises us. Not surprising for a guy born and bred in the town of Auburn.

He's the one that led this entire nationwide charge to expansion and now here we are. All for his pockets to fatten. That's all he's ever done since he learned he was only the 3rd highest paid commish.
 
TSIO can end for all I care. Good riddance I say.
I bumped that 'Big Josh and Dale Jones Basilio clip' multiple times this week. I posted on here that alabama is our biggest rival and that game should always be on our schedule. Yesterday made me change my mind. I hate alabama but I hate getting cheated and lied to much more than them. When just one side gets to make/break all the rules, then it's no longer a rivalry.... it's a farce and should be done away with.
 
I have seen multiple mentions of players saying they thought the game was in the bag at halftime, or something to that extent. I haven’t seen any actual names, however, and it seems like a really surprising and damning thing for someone to admit. Can anybody point me somewhere that will corroborate?
Anyone who posted that was lying.

It was 100% rigged officiating. Any other remark is basically meaningless. The fix was in. People wanna say "we shoulda done x or y, not z" as if Birmingham would not have simply thrown a flag.

It was not a football game. It was televised racketeering.
 
What exactly is there to be displeased about with us in basketball or baseball? Don’t get it. We should be a favored program in both of those sports with how well we’ve performed.
Baseball swagger-- fur coat, daddy hat, mike honcho, bat tosses, bat stickers, celebrations, poses and props-- caused much ado about nothing. Barnes, Harper and Weekly color inside the lines, though softball did briefly adopt the fur coat and mommy hat.
 
I know but at the same time, why stay? Saban wanted a 7-1 schedule, he doesn't have to play TN or LSU every year, well guess what, he's probably going to get it. He cries and gets rules changed. He gets beat and then the coach that beats him, gets fired within a couple of years. Saban, along with Sankey, has ruined this conference.
Why in the world would Saban want to stop playing UT? He is 16-1 against them. That argument just makes zero sense
 
My thoughts on leaving the SEC:

I had a job where the techs had service vans. When I was a new employee, we used to meet at lunch and shoot pool (9 ball and the winner stayed up). We were all competitive but 1 guy was over the top. If I beat him, he'd rack the balls loose or turn the rack slightly, prior to my break. I didn't catch him at 1st but I saw him do it to another guy. That's when I started paying attention. He couldn't win straight up so he'd cheat a little. It got to a point that it wasn't any fun for me and fighting with him just made everything worse.

We're there as a football team. Josh Heupel has seen enough and it's eating at him. I understand him, If you're going to get cheated, why stay? I would absolutely support a move away from the SEC. I hope the other schools' ADs/presidents will do something before it gets to that point. It's really not fair and it's ruined the conference. The spirit and sportsmanship of college football has been traded for money.
I’m totally agreeing the officiating was suspiciously bad that game and frankly all year. But what I can’t figure out is that when Tennessee is good, we are a threat to be more profitable than any other teams outside maybe bama, USC, Texas, Ohio state or Nortre dame. Tennessee is a massive brand and us getting the shaft for money makes no sense to me. It’s just got to be something else .
 
We've been getting lousy officiating all year. I don't think Sankey is putting the screws to us though. The SEC ref'ng corps (for want a of a better descriptor) has been trash for decades. It's years of bad hiring practices coupled with zero accountability. The mistake was allowing the SEC to muzzle coaches completely. While it makes sense that you don't want your coaches undermining officiating constantly, we instituted a policy that allows bad officiating to flourish because it's never called out by those with the experience and knowledge to do so. The SEC won't change it without pressure and real pressure will never come without authorative voices speaking on the issue. Fans will simply be written off as fans.

However, we need to do a better job at hiring, training, credentialling, and retaining officials. Too much money is on the line for Bubba who once played for X school and needs the money to get the job solely based on your cousin Jim Bob's recommendation. Further, officials should be reviewed at the end of every season - retention should not be automatic/nearly automatic but instead based on performance. The jobs need to be full time - we have the money - and there needs to be consequences if an official or crew is repeatedly lacking in performance.

There'd still be human error and plenty of it but at least it would show a good faith attempt at fixing the conference's officiating woes.
Nah, eventually a pattern develops. The pattern is there.
 
Whether we have a shot or not completely depends on if the referees are going to call a fair game or not. If there is a predetermined outcome that the SEC wants to happen, your chances are slim to none. That was proven yesterday.
The refs were wet hot garbage it was obvious. But we lost the game. They just piled on our spiral of choke.
 
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I’m totally agreeing the officiating was suspiciously bad that game and frankly all year. But what I can’t figure out is that when Tennessee is good, we are a threat to be more profitable than any other teams outside maybe bama, USC, Texas, Ohio state or Nortre dame. Tennessee is a massive brand and us getting the shaft for money makes no sense to me. It’s just got to be something else .
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I wonder who would want TN to stay in the ditch???Screenshot_20231022_153539_Maps.jpg
*it's beyond money. The SEC office being located within an hour of UA is just bad for us and everyone else in the conference. For anybody struggling to see the problem here, the TSIO game used to be played at Legion Field.... in Birmingham and Birmingham is full of bama fans. If you are a TN fan and don't think that's suspicious and rotten, then you have not been paying attention to this rivalry.
 
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Yall talking crap crack me up.

The whole point about Kirby making it in year 2 is that he was doing what he was supposed to be with the roster he was given. He had been to Atlanta and was a QB change away from winning it all. There was reason for UGA to believe in him.

The only thing Heup has done is choked in every chance he's had to make Atlanta or the playoffs.

I think the point is what he did to even get us in those positions, in year 2 with a depleted roster and sanctions hanging over us no less, is remarkable.
 
Very true. UT is a revenue producer that draws viewers with marquee matchups. Sankey values money and wants the moneymakers. But there is no internal support for UT leaving the SEC. We just need to take the SEC money and use it to get back to being a power program that won't be denied.
Does that mean the refs would then favor us and let us win?

Let's start the donation fund. Call up Vol Twitter. We could double refs' salaries over night. Maybe we should do this mob style 😅
 
Its hard to refute this. The silence from SEC, even after weekly jobbing is deafening. It really is enough to push me away from the sport I love.
The funniest part is when UK bball fans and Bama football fans claim it. We had 11 fewer penalties than Bama last year and those jokers wouldn't shut up about the jobbing 🤣

Bless their hearts.
 
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