Recruiting Football Talk VII

[mrMet]

In all of football I have ever watched, only twice have I seen the game stopped to review the previous play several seconds after the ball has been snapped on the next play. . .

Both times were Tennessee games and were reviews against UT.

Literally said this in my group chat lol so wild that it happens

 

[mrMet]

What's the consensus on BJM? Our LB play today was really bad

Herring is awful

 

[TheBigOne10]

7 points. 7 *****ing points. Can’t wrap my mind around it.

 

[PKT_VOL]

You sound so ****ing stupid lol. The refs had ZERO impact today dude. We got our ****ing ass whooped. End of story. Go root for GA tech and be done with this **** like you said 2 years ago. Hold your word and honor

To say that the refs had no impact on the game or the last few games is disingenuous at best.

These are not mutually exclusive:

1) The lack of holding calls negates the strength of our defense.

2) Our linebacker play today was atrocious. Especially #44.

3) We are terrible at zone defense, yet Banks keeps calling it.

4) Milton significantly hampers what Heupel can call on offense.

5) Mizzou had a great gameplan on defense to sellout on the run and force Milton to beat them.

6) Heupel teams struggle on the road more than they should. USCjr game should be thrown out given the Michigan scandal and overwhelming evidence of Michigan/USCjr working together on the UT and Clemson games.

Why we as a fanbase attack fellow posters who post about one of the above as either being the exclusive reason or mutually exclusive to others really shows the lack of intelligence within our fanbase.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

What's the consensus on BJM? Our LB play today was really bad

He needs more guys. Herring should've been on the bench, but who could replace him? We needed Arion Carter in a bad way.

 

[mrMet]

MIZZ may not be terrible. They were ranked top 15 and hung with ga and just beat us senseless. They may just be good this year. Had a lot of returning players.

Losing a close game to them vs getting our ass whooped are 2 different things though

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

What's the consensus on BJM? Our LB play today was really bad

Injuries have hurt his unit this season. His group had an awful day today, Herring in particular, but I think he’s done an okay job for the most part.

 

[KB5252]

I would say that’s all the more reason to start Nico against Vandy. Barring a total disaster, you’re going to win that game regardless of who you start. Would be a good opportunity to let him get some experience and give us something to build on going into 2024.

I don't disagree, but at the same time of you go to him you have to stay with him in the bowl game...... I just don't see any real upside in doing that. A couple of games aren't going to make or break him for next year.

 

[Volunteer821]

Media hacks piping in with Heupel complaints. Figures. Idiots have learned nothing from changing coaches every 3 or 4 years since the Fullmer days. Heupel will fix Heupel. Beat LSU like a drum on the road last year. Kentucky this year. Not sure all of that is accurate. He will make adjustments to the staff if needed. Finding the next flavor of the month ain't the answer. Continuity at the top of the program is critical. One thing I would like to see (just a personal preference) is the DC on the sideline and not in the box. Believe they are more hands on when that happens. Another thing to keep in mind, if you fire someone who are you going to get that's an upgrade?

I'm not high on Banks but you have to make sure you can upgrade if you let him go. Our defensive backfield should be alot more talented next year and hopefully we see it improve drastically. Heupel is already light years better than the last 3 guys combined. Let him get better, I guarantee he will. Like you said, Heupel will fix Heupel.

 

[mrMet]

To say that the refs had no impact on the game or the last few games is disingenuous at best.

These are not mutually exclusive:

1) The lack of holding calls negates the strength of our defense.

2) Our linebacker play today was atrocious. Especially #44.

3) We are terrible at zone defense, yet Banks keeps calling it.

4) Milton significantly hampers what Heupel can call on offense.

5) Mizzou had a great gameplan on defense to sellout on the run and force Milton to beat them.

6) Heupel teams struggle on the road more than they should. USCjr game should be thrown out given the Michigan scandal and overwhelming evidence of Michigan/USCjr working together on the UT and Clemson games.

Why we as a fanbase attack fellow posters who post about one of the above as either being the exclusive reason or mutually exclusive to others really shows the lack of intelligence within our fanbase.

There were very minimal “lack of holding calls” today. I literally said previous games there is an argument.

Surely you aren’t talking about me attacking fellow posters when he replied to me with nonsense name-calling etc lol I just will happily return the favor

Today was a **** show. We got whooped

 

[berryvol]

Heupel is only one game under .500 on the road at Tennessee.

Today was terrible and somethings need to change, but to act like he is needs to be fired is just insane.

And in case we forgot, Heupel hasn’t lost a game at home in almost 2 years….

No one (sane) thinks he should be fired. But it’s time to have some tough convos about the staff, play calling, and road performances. We need to make adjustments in these areas if we want to compete for conference and national titles under Heupel.

 

[BJHSVol]

I don't think anyone wants to fire Heupel. Just noticing and pointing out some larger red flags that are popping up. The SEC was not very good this year and you are seeing some bad/dangerous patterns. Awful on the road, poor discipline, etc.

He's gonna be 2-7 against the big 3. Our best win this year is either Kentucky or a 5-4 A&M team.

I agree that criticism is warranted and clearly there is room for improvement.

I just think it’s disingenuous for people to act like an 8-4 season is a giant backslide while they’re ignoring the work and progress it took to make it a bad season considering where we were 3 years ago. You can’t have it both ways ya know?

 

[berryvol]

Herring is awful

Hopefully his brother is better or we wasted 2 scholarships

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Here is my only request for the rest of the season. I know it won’t happen, but one can dream. Keep Joe in there to get blasted by Georgia next week and protect Nico, let Joe have one series on senior day as a thank you, then please for the love of god just let Nico play the rest of the Vandy game.

There is just no excuse with this season being over to not let Nico play against Vandy and the bowl game. He would still retain his redshirt and get valuable reps for next year.

He’s played against UVA, UTSA, and UCONN so far. Vandy plus the bowl game puts him over four games, so wouldn’t he lose his RS? Not that it really matters. He should take over come the Vandy game regardless of his RS status.

 

[mrMet]

He needs more guys. Herring should've been on the bench, but who could replace him? We needed Arion Carter in a bad way.

Telander is his backup. Wild to not even give him the run today while herring got beat repeatedly. It was like watching Crouch all over

 

[berryvol]

To say that the refs had no impact on the game or the last few games is disingenuous at best.

These are not mutually exclusive:

1) The lack of holding calls negates the strength of our defense.

2) Our linebacker play today was atrocious. Especially #44.

3) We are terrible at zone defense, yet Banks keeps calling it.

4) Milton significantly hampers what Heupel can call on offense.

5) Mizzou had a great gameplan on defense to sellout on the run and force Milton to beat them.

6) Heupel teams struggle on the road more than they should. USCjr game should be thrown out given the Michigan scandal and overwhelming evidence of Michigan/USCjr working together on the UT and Clemson games.

Why we as a fanbase attack fellow posters who post about one of the above as either being the exclusive reason or mutually exclusive to others really shows the lack of intelligence within our fanbase.

Stop. There were multiple missed facemasks against us in the TAMU game and today. I was at Bama or I’m sure I’d have some missed from that one. The refs haven’t done us any major favors, but to put the loss today or in Tuscaloosa at their feet is simply embarrassing on our fan bases part.

 

[mrMet]

Hopefully his brother is better or we wasted 2 scholarships

Maybe we had a scheme tk take his brother and give him PT to ensure we got Caleb? Lol one can hope

 

[drvenner]

Quit quoting those dumb asses

 

[pierce60]

Telander is his backup. Wild to not even give him the run today while herring got beat repeatedly. It was like watching Crouch all over

I feel like Pili and Carter would’ve both been helpful today.

 

[berryvol]

Maybe we had a scheme tk take his brother and give him PT to ensure we got Caleb? Lol one can hope

Doubtful. The good in me wants to think our injuries at LB were a major part of the struggles today. The bad in me thinks we may be screwed with the current D staff for the future. The talent is finally there, even if young. Time to scheme em up.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Quit quoting those dumb asses

Smooth brains over at a to z

 

[Volsdeep4]

Telander is his backup. Wild to not even give him the run today while herring got beat repeatedly. It was like watching Crouch all over

Telander was there quite a bit.

 

[JCP201]

The fumble by Wright before the half was a back breaker

That would have changed the trajectory of the game.

 

[mrMet]

I feel like Pili and Carter would’ve both been helpful today.

Carter played did he not? He was part of the problem on a misdirection run white boy had for 30 or so. Could’ve also misread the number

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

I feel like Pili and Carter would’ve both been helpful today.

Yeah Pili was a gigantic loss. Carter is okay right now. Think he needs to lose some of that weight.