Recruiting Football Talk VII

[VOLED]

To say that the refs had no impact on the game or the last few games is disingenuous at best.

These are not mutually exclusive:

1) The lack of holding calls negates the strength of our defense.

2) Our linebacker play today was atrocious. Especially #44.

3) We are terrible at zone defense, yet Banks keeps calling it.

4) Milton significantly hampers what Heupel can call on offense.

5) Mizzou had a great gameplan on defense to sellout on the run and force Milton to beat them.

6) Heupel teams struggle on the road more than they should. USCjr game should be thrown out given the Michigan scandal and overwhelming evidence of Michigan/USCjr working together on the UT and Clemson games.

Why we as a fanbase attack fellow posters who post about one of the above as either being the exclusive reason or mutually exclusive to others really shows the lack of intelligence within our fanbase.

Not sure MO sold out for the run. They sold out for the deep ball. Looked like most of the time we had favorable numbers in the run game and just couldn’t produce.

 

[TheBigOne10]

That would have changed the trajectory of the game.

I think so to some degree. But they still ran through us like poop through a goose. We took it, repeatedly, and asked for more helpings.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

That would have changed the trajectory of the game.

Yeah it's the fact that we could never bounce back ever that is very concerning.

 

[Devo182]

Noticed another trend. When the Vols lose they don’t just lose they lose bigly…

13 and 14 are bigly?

All 3 losses this year we were driving in Q4 to cut it to a 1 score game and some whack *** play happened ended things. Even multiple times vs UF

 

[mrMet]

Doubtful. The good in me wants to think our injuries at LB were a major part of the struggles today. The bad in me thinks we may be screwed with the current D staff for the future. The talent is finally there, even if young. Time to scheme em up.

The negative part of me is concerned why we trot herring out there repeatedly. He’s bad, he’s been bad, it doesn’t appear he’s gotten better through the year

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Telander is his backup. Wild to not even give him the run today while herring got beat repeatedly. It was like watching Crouch all over

Yeah, but he couldn't play every snap. Who is the 3rd guy? That's who would've been playing, instead of herring. Telander +_______, instead of herring?

 

[SpringBokVol]

Really surprised how quickly we gave up on the run.

 

[GoBigOrange86]

My brother who is much more level headed than me listening to me talk about this game

 

[volbeast33]

A to Z is who i want to take advice from

 

[VolNash17]

13 and 14 are bigly?

All 3 losses this year we were driving in Q4 to cut it to a 1 score game and some whack *** play happened ended things. Even multiple times vs UF

Bigly meaning 10+ points.

 

[KB5252]

I agree that criticism is warranted and clearly there is room for improvement.

I just think it’s disingenuous for people to act like an 8-4 season is a giant backslide while they’re ignoring the work and progress it took to make it a bad season considering where we were 3 years ago. You can’t have it both ways ya know?

Yes and no........ Think about what we lose, what worked for us this year and what didn't..... And what we have coming in for next year.

Any way you crack it there are holes and uncertainties for the roster going into next season. O line, interior D line and pass rush depth are concerns, as well as TE .

I don't see us taking a step forward next year. Going to be about the same IMO

 

[screenthis]

Stop. There were multiple missed facemasks against us in the TAMU game and today. I was at Bama or I’m sure I’d have some missed from that one. The refs haven’t done us any major favors, but to put the loss today or in Tuscaloosa at their feet is simply embarrassing on our fan bases part.

Not to mention that the refs are always targeted in losses, always. I do have an issue with lack of holding calls but our poor performance has caused our losses.

 

[JacketVol]

Are you ignorant orrrrr what? I’ve never said anything about a coach lmao. So who’s drunk in this convo, little tough guy?

Lee who you responded to IS a real coach. Little met man.

 

[berryvol]

The negative part of me is concerned why we trot herring out there repeatedly. He’s bad, he’s been bad, it doesn’t appear he’s gotten better through the year

Fair enough. I truly do think we’re thin at LB with Carter and Pilli out. That said, it’s fully on the staff to adjust and find a way to not let an average rushing attack run all over our defense.

 

[Devo182]

Any chance Georgia doesn’t beat us by 30+?

Very high chance lol. I'd take that bet all day

Spread is probably ~14ish

 

[turdherder11]

Nico needs to start after the uga game. Vandy and the bowl game, 2 games to get his feet wet. I still believe the best qb is on the bench, a lot like the Milton/Hooker situation. But I wouldn't let my Fr. Qb start vs uga.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Fair enough. I truly do think we’re thin at LB with Carter and Pilli out. That said, it’s fully on the staff to adjust and find a way to not let an average rushing attack run all over our defense.

this is on DL, ans i ability to gameplan over, and over, and over to the same ****ing gameplan.

 

[TheBigOne10]

I’ll keep giving to Spyre, as painful as it is.

 

[mrMet]

Telander was there quite a bit.

I missed him in much then. My apologies

 

[Revived2002]

On the bright side, there is no chance for Milton to become Guarantano.

If he’s limiting the offense and Heupel is “sticking with him too much,” he’s gone next year regardless.

 

[SpringBokVol]

There is something about the Heupel system or process that is harder on the road - calling in plays, seeing defensive alignment, etc.

But something isn’t working.

 

[knoxvol52]

Yeah, but he couldn't play every snap. Who is the 3rd guy? That's who would've been playing, instead of herring. Telander +_______, instead of herring?

Its Carter isn't it???

 

[Jackcrevol]

Any chance Georgia doesn’t beat us by 30+?

Good god man.

 

[PKT_VOL]

Stop. There were multiple missed facemasks against us in the TAMU game and today. I was at Bama or I’m sure I’d have some missed from that one. The refs haven’t done us any major favors, but to put the loss today or in Tuscaloosa at their feet is simply embarrassing on our fan bases part.

It's almost as if you didn't read the post.

The entire point of the post was to expressly point out that while officiating wasn't an exclusive cause, it was/has been a factor among many obvious others.

Pointing to a factor at the exclusion of other obvious causes is disingenuous. Unfortunately, there is a lot of that happening in this thread tonight on all sides.

 

[drvenner]

Media hacks piping in with Heupel complaints. Figures. Idiots have learned nothing from changing coaches every 3 or 4 years since the Fullmer days. Heupel will fix Heupel. Beat LSU like a drum on the road last year. Kentucky this year. Not sure all of that is accurate. He will make adjustments to the staff if needed. Finding the next flavor of the month ain't the answer. Continuity at the top of the program is critical. One thing I would like to see (just a personal preference) is the DC on the sideline and not in the box. Believe they are more hands on when that happens. Another thing to keep in mind, if you fire someone who are you going to get that's an upgrade?

People don't worry about who to hire. That just say throw the bank at some wildly unrealistic coach and pat themselves on the back because they done fixed everything with somebody else's money.