Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Enki_Amenra]

What do you mean by “keeping Dobbs”? He flipped Dobbs from Arizona State.

At the very last minute too

 

[drvenner]

So, I saw some ants running in my garden the other day and it looked like there was about 9 of them. After seeing one additional ant with them, I decided to build them a little house so they could by my tenants.

 

[eVOLve]

Had this same convo with someone in the AD yesterday

And honestly, if officiating got bad enough where it risk the health of our players.. I would accept the high and mighty route of players walking off the field and still be a proud Tennessee fan

Edit: and even refunding every individual who got tickets to the game to really stick it to the SEC and NCAA that they ain’t the almighty

 

[Vol423]

So, I saw some ants running in my garden the other day and it looked like there was about 9 of them. After seeing one additional ant with them, I decided to build them a little house so they could by my tenants.

 

[drvenner]

it's been less than ideal. we need players.

Recruiting is never ideal because almost all teams never get everyone they want. We are getting players. Good ones. I agree it could be better, but we are still going to have a great class if we get no defections.

 

[drvenner]

I'm not sure if its NIL, assertiveness by coaching staff (pushing for commits), or not a wide enough net. But whatver it is its a knock, this staff has good recruiters. TN is a great program. All the tools are there. There is no excuse they gotta get it figured out.

Too often we get the visit, kids have a blast, then look for any reason not to come here, its strange.

You are not built for recruiting. None of this is how it happens. Carry on,

 

[Jackcrevol]

3 straight winning seasons and some of y’all acting like all the sudden we should be competing with Bama and UGA in recruiting….and seem disappointed we aren’t

We have the facilities, coaches, NIL, legacy, and $ support to recruit at a top 10, possibly top 6-8 every year. Potentially top 5 every once in a while.

That's all I'm sayin'.

 

[drvenner]

I agree with some of what you're saying. It is concerning, esp on the LOS'. To include Garner, btw what's going on with DL recruiting??

My point is we seems to lose on a disproportionate amount of Top 100 players. It seems like we lose a lot of these battles. Lets just say we got Mauigoa, or one of our top tackle prospects in last two years.

If they stay healthy, how does that impact 2024? If we land one of our top DL prospects in last two years, how does that help going into 2024, with so many potentially leaving? What about WR? And I mean having a rising soph, dynamic playmaker. Landing a Wingo type in addition to Matthews, and Staley is what this offense needs.

Disproportionate to what?

 

[Jackcrevol]

Recruiting is never ideal because almost all teams never get everyone they want. We are getting players. Good ones. I agree it could be better, but we are still going to have a good class if we get no defections.

ill agree, with changing of one word.

 

[JacketVol]

And honestly, if officiating got bad enough where it risk the health of our players.. I would accept the high and mighty route of players walking off the field and still be a proud Tennessee fan

Edit: and even refunding every individual who got tickets to the game to really stick it to the SEC and NCAA that they ain’t the almighty

We actually thought someone picking up someone and body slamming them on their head banks style would be appropriate

 

[Vol423]

I agree with some of what you're saying. It is concerning, esp on the LOS'. To include Garner, btw what's going on with DL recruiting??

My point is we seems to lose on a disproportionate amount of Top 100 players. It seems like we lose a lot of these battles. Lets just say we got Mauigoa, or one of our top tackle prospects in last two years.

If they stay healthy, how does that impact 2024? If we land one of our top DL prospects in last two years, how does that help going into 2024, with so many potentially leaving? What about WR? And I mean having a rising soph, dynamic playmaker. Landing a Wingo type in addition to Matthews, and Staley is what this offense needs.

It's almost like there is some type of mathematical basis that if you target a lot of Top 100 players, you're going to miss out on a higher percentage of them.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

So, I saw some ants running in my garden the other day and it looked like there was about 9 of them. After seeing one additional ant with them, I decided to build them a little house so they could by my tenants.

 

[turdherder11]

Heup's real offense will be rolling very soon. I would have liked to have seen Dobbs run it for one season anyway. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That offense was pretty dang good. Hurd, AK, Malone, Jennings, Dobbs, and others. It would have been better than last years offense I believe. They won a few games despite bad coaching. CJH would scheme guys open all over the field.

 

[drvenner]

Additional evidence that the NCAA is one of the absolutely worst managed organizations on the planet. What a damned joke.

 

[Jackcrevol]

“Disproportionate” opposed to whom? Bama, UGA, Ohio State and Michigan amongst others always get theirs. Disillusioned entitlement is an exercise in futility. This upcoming class is the first where the NCAA bull cannot be used against us in negative recruiting. Let reality air out before pulling the “concerned” button, I say. Last time I’m weighing in on these discussions. They’re pointless. If the coaches can’t get it done, everybody will be right at the same time. With previous coaching staffs, I never felt confident we could compete EVEN WITH a top 5 class. Butch’s one-off with Trey and Pruitt and Niedermeyer luring in Wanya and Darnell was the closest we got to bringing in legit big uglies…and Mahoney/Friend couldn’t develop them to even mediocre status. Ellarbee can take cast-offs and at least compete on the worst days. Ok…that’s it.

Yes those. And LSU, Clemson, Auburn, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, TAMU, Carolina, USClite, and Florida.

I agree with what some of you are saying, surprisingly. But the time for developing prospects combined with schollie reductions, is at an end.

With 1 miss, 2 miss, and 3 those three 3 crucial misses become quality starting depth. Again this isnt an indictment on their coaching ability, but more a question of they, recruiting ability - which I actually have argued that they have some ace recruiters they're just not getting them across the finish line, as often as they should.

 

[drvenner]

Dillion Bates who was a bust, the Berry twins and Todd Kelly Jr....was only legacy players he had..but I do forget sometimes maybe there were more...Oh yes and Nigel Warrior....

How could you forget Kahlil McKenzie?

 

[knoxvol52]

How could you forget Kahlil McKenzie?

Yes forgot him my bad...another bust as a 4 or 5 star player......Shy Tuttle was way better than KM if not for the injuries holding him back... actually still plays for the Saints in NFL...

 

[volinbama256]

Golesh needs a new dc and players

What he needs to do is just come back home to Knoxville.

 

[knoxvol52]

What he needs to do is just come back home to Knoxville.

Dream on Golesh will do fine at USF after he recruits for a few years...looks like Madden might end up there wouldn't shock me ....how bout you ???

 

[VolGee4]

Dream on Golesh will do fine at USF after he recruits for a few years...looks like Madden might end up there wouldn't shock me ....how bout you ???

They were dreadful the last few years, and he is one win away against Charlotte to be bowl eligible. I’d say it would be a successful first year for him.

 

[butchna]

Yes those. And LSU, Clemson, Auburn, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, TAMU, Carolina, USClite, and Florida.

I agree with what some of you are saying, surprisingly. But the time for developing prospects combined with schollie reductions, is at an end.

With 1 miss, 2 miss, and 3 those three 3 crucial misses become quality starting depth. Again this isnt an indictment on their coaching ability, but more a question of they, recruiting ability - which I actually have argued that they have some ace recruiters they're just not getting them across the finish line, as often as they should.

Mizzou has the 45th ranked class, Gamecocks 19th, Auburn 16th, Clemson 17th opposed to us at 12th (and not finished) and we'll see what Florida's final tally is with them losing a four star every day and DJ Lagway ripe for poaching. Guess the heart wants...

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I find it comical how Michigan is acting through this entire situation. You got caught cheating, destroying evidence, and giving your cheating ring to other programs to influence results of other games as well. You are not a victim. You would think they would just shut their mouths and try and take the spotlight off themselves a bit through this whole thing.

 

[SSVol]

Anyone noticed that some people either say "I'm a vol fan" or "I'm a vols fan"

Is it just me that thinks it sounds dumb when people say "I'm a vols fan"?

"As a vols fan" = "as a volunteers fan"

Just sounds wrong.

Vols or Volunteers is the proper name of the team. You are a fan of the Vols, hence a Vols fan. It's grammatically correct, weird sound notwithstanding.

 

[GVol1966]

The 10-19 range has more to do with Brock Bowers than Beck.

No . Bowers doesn’t throw it to himself.
It’s a QB stat.
One that shows joes deficiencies that limit our offense.
That’s why it’s sideline throws of less than 5 yards and a rare down field pass.
Head scratcher run play calls when it’s 3rd down.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

And honestly, if officiating got bad enough where it risk the health of our players.. I would accept the high and mighty route of players walking off the field and still be a proud Tennessee fan

Edit: and even refunding every individual who got tickets to the game to really stick it to the SEC and NCAA that they ain’t the almighty

If they are start the bias trash again today, the crowd will get very ugly….worse than Ole Miss 2 years ago. I hope we can stay close and force them to call a clean game, or else watch our fanbase show exactly what trash the SEC and its officials are.