Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Vol423]

7th round vs UDFA

Milroe will end up getting drafted higher than you guys think. Unlike Milton, he has shown marked improvement as the season progressed, and he still has another year in college to continue improving.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[butchna]

Milroe will end up getting drafted higher than you guys think. Unlike Milton, he has shown marked improvement as the season progressed, and he still has another year in college to continue improving.

But he's coming back...so he won't.

 

[orangejuice]

Awe, I guess Jay won’t be doing the podcast next year. Really enjoyed listening to him every week.

 

[RudyVol]

If that were the only issue...............

Lying about it? I'm just not sure the issue. Every school paid players. We just weren't one of the privileged ones who were allowed to.

 

[RudyVol]

It is remarkable that a few of the guys at the center of the investigation went to UGA, not TN. Wonder what that offer looked like….

Kinda like Zion taking money from Kansas and then just decided to go to Duke for free.

 

[drvenner]

Paying players lacks integrity? Every program does it. Every coach we have ever had did it. Am I missing something? It's even allowed now.

You are missing a lot. Yes, everyone is paying players. He did in about the most stupid way possible. He broke other rules as well. He thought it would be like when he was at Bama and Georgia and he could do whatever he wanted. I guess you missed @butchna posting about the additional money it saved. I mean all those players left because they just wanted to be somewhere else, right?

 

[VolNash17]

You're right-- we're not a "win at all cost" program and that's top-down. Our rivals are. You're also spot-on that UT is having to recruit around the perception that UT football is a next-tier down program-- not elite. They're having to chip away at this-- and proving it on the field is the path. The losses to UGA and Bama aren't as detrimental as losses to programs like UF and Mizzou. If UT had beaten UF this year, it would be a different narrative.

That said, I think recruiting reflects this staff's philosophy more than anything else. They prioritize keeping the players they have (and want) and bringing in guys who fit their profile and can be developed up the depth chart-- along with select plug-and-play portalers who fit very specific needs.


.

So by what you’re saying. I take it as Heupel as the full resources available to him by the uppers it’s just his way of being picky or taking lesser guys at times that fit whatever he thinks in a team. So if this thing fails to win a Sec Championship we know which one is the reason why

 

[drvenner]

Definitely take care of your moms. Received tragic news yesterday. After weeks of worrying, well, extra worrying, over my mom's health, I found out my best friend's mom passed suddenly. Still in shock.

So very sorry. I know it is painful for you and moreso for your friend. All the prayers I can muster are yours. Truly sorry

 

[Outofmyvolcanmind]

Milroe will end up getting drafted higher than you guys think. Unlike Milton, he has shown marked improvement as the season progressed, and he still has another year in college to continue improving.

I watch Bama games because I want them to lose. How did he improve? He had only 2 games where his combined rushing and passing yards were over 300. His only highly accurate games were MTSU (1st game), Ole Miss (Game 3), MSST (Game 4), UTC (Game 10). 3 of those games are against bad teams. First 6 games = 66.6% completion %. Last 6 = 67.4%. He did have 12 TD's and 2 pics in last 6 vs 11 TD's and 4 picks in the first 6. I would argue he faced better defenses in the first 6 games vs the last 6. A&M and GA are a wash. Texas had the best defense in the Big 12. Auburn in the bottom half of SEC defenses. LSU was as bad as Vandy. UTC is not division 1. Check the stats, it is actually Joe Milton who improved more the second half of the season and he played Bama, Mizzou, and Georgia in that stretch.



Milroe is a better runner for sure.

 

[Glitch]

Maybe I should bring some mayo. @Glitch

Mayo is for sammiches only. Not the unnatural unholy fiddle faddle that Levi's abuses it for.

 

[JCVol00]

I absolutely love this love as a UT and ETSU fan/student

 

[volbeast33]

Definitely take care of your moms. Received tragic news yesterday. After weeks of worrying, well, extra worrying, over my mom's health, I found out my best friend's mom passed suddenly. Still in shock.

for you and your friends family!!

 

[volbeast33]

I absolutely love this love as a UT and ETSU fan/student

i’m right down the road from Gardner Webb.

 

[JCP201]

We are retaining basically our entire starting line.. if you’re talking about us losing our 6th year senior mid defensive backfield that is not the same lol

Yes, I agree, as much complaining as I read, we aren't as bad off as many many others.

 

[mrmax86]

 

[volbeast33]

You are missing a lot. Yes, everyone is paying players. He did in about the most stupid way possible. He broke other rules as well. He thought it would be like when he was at Bama and Georgia and he could do whatever he wanted. I guess you missed @butchna posting about the additional money it saved. I mean all those players left because they just wanted to be somewhere else, right?

if they took money…… why weren’t they ineligible at other schools?

 

[csprig9]

Big boom

 

[JCP201]

Isn’t just us what?

Sorry, I hit and ran with that post. Been hearing a lot of complaining about the transfers-- did not mean we were losing our offensive line, just some blue font sarcasm.

 

[JCP201]

Wondering how many games a team can lose in the SEC and still be eligible for playoffs. These schedules are not a cupcake walk.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Swain seems to think Wide Receiver is our #1 position of need and should be our top priority.

 

[Christian Lowe]

Wondering how many games a team can lose in the SEC and still be eligible for playoffs. These schedules are not a cupcake walk.

If Florida went 9-3 somehow, I think they’d be in. But that’s the only team that could lose more than 2 next season and make it imo.

 

[Blake25p]

BOOM, thank you Sypre!

 

[RikidyBones]

He's gonna torch us next year lmao

 

[Ten_Titans]

The McDonalds bags thing just adds to the story for the media. Players were getting paid anywhere whether it was through a mcdonalds bag or handing them a stack of bills.

Of course Saban and Bama are some dirty cheaters. It just never made sense why programs like us and Ole Miss got in trouble for paying players when it was clear as it could be that Bama was doing it at a much higher level for many years. We just wanted the same blind eye to our payments that Bama received, not that we didn't do it or want to do it. I also didn't want us to pay Pruitt's buyout bc I can't stand that Bama bum but getting your entire program in trouble and having a ton of good players transfer out to avoid it didn't seem worth it.

Multiple players recieved cash payments from us and proceded to go play somewhere else. I'm just guessing that never happened to Bama or Georgia.

Which is really the other point. I don't think we got an investigation because Plowman went out of her way to narc on the program, or because the NCAA had it out for us. I think we got investigated because Nick Saban had cheating down to an art form and Pruitt sucked at it and had no idea what he was doing.