Recruiting Football Talk VII

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I always find the debate on hating rivals interesting. I too had a staunch policy until some cousins and a brother in law joined the mix with rival affiliations, and i became older. I don't like their teams, but I like all of them, and they are fantastic to talk football with as long is it is shared rival. My one cousin gets some extra annoyance from me because he is insufferable (UGA) in winning, but takes his losses well enough.

As far as the Bama love I have been claimed to possess. I do hate them probably second to UF, but I will confess I am pretty impressed with what Saban has achieved. I have talked about them more than normal this year, because I think this may be one of Saban's best coaching performances, and the man is 70.
He will finish as likely the goat. IMO not as a Bama coach, just as a coach. I think there are a couple of schools Saban could have performed his feats at. Some maybe even easier than Bama. It was just our unfortunate luck he ended up at Bama. For that i truly despise them.

Same as it was Vandy's and Bama's luck that Neyland ended up with us. I can always respect greatness when I see it. I hate Tom Brady with a passion, but he was a bad ass.
 
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SmokinBob said:
I would think, with the opportunity to play the team that was rated No 1 in the nation most of the regular season, that is the defending national champion, that a player with a true competitive mindsetd could really get psyched to play them and show that *#%! Committee just how wrong they were….

I’ve always been the type of person that, when someone tells me I can’t do something, I become even more intensely focused on proving that I can.

Wow - lot’s of commas in those sentences! 🤪
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Poster trying to cover all bases,never know when Punctuation Patrol will come strolling by...😏😏😏
 
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CAVPUT said:
And that's what our offense is missing. Despite Nico's reported talents, he needs tools. I don't see our WRs coming anywhere close to Hyatt and Tillman. They don't have the speed. They've not shown that they even have the hands. Right now I'm not sure they can run decent routes much less make all the reads that are required in this offense.
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You do realize that Tillman was injured most of the year last year and the only real difference in starters was Hyatt. I think the receivers look much better with Nico much like they did with Hooker. No slight to Joe, but he was pretty much a one read QB and had very up and down games. Joe played about as well as he could this year and he will always be a VFL. I hope he gets drafted high and makes some $$$.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Not sure what Iowa does in recruiting, but they apparently do more with less. Maybe we'll need to be better at coaching/development because I don't see us eclipsing either bama or uga in recruiting in my lifetime. I try to imagine what the Iowa defensive coaching staff could do with our talent and dream of seeing it happen here. Yeah, sometimes I do like to visit fantasy land.
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maybe we would score 21 points a game instead of 35? Is that the type of development you want?
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
You do realize that Tillman was injured most of the year last year and the only real difference in starters was Hyatt. I think the receivers look much better with Nico much like they did with Hooker. No slight to Joe, but he was pretty much a one read QB and had very up and down games. Joe played about as well as he could this year and he will always be a VFL. I hope he gets drafted high and makes some $$$.
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They did drop a lot of balls early, but I hope you are right.
 
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peaygolf said:
December 29, 1986

From 1976-1986........I was fortunate to go to every Liberty Bowl.......This was a fun one!

Joey Clinkscales caught an 18 yard touchdown pass from Jeff Francis to give Tennessee a 7–0 lead. Fullback William Howard caught a 23 yard pass from Francis to make it 14–0. Chip Lohmiller made it 14–3 on his 27 yard field goal. In the second half, Ricky Foggie scored on an 11 yard touchdown run. Fullback Darrell Thompson scored on the conversion attempt to make it 14–11. Lohmiller added another field goal to tie the game at 14 with 13:23 left in the fourth quarter. But the Vols went on a five-play, 66-yard drive that culminated with a Clinkscales catch from 15 yards out to give them a 21–14 lead with 11:21 left that sealed the victory as the Gophers failed to respond from there. Francis went 22 of 31 for 243 yards, and he was named MVP. Clinkscales had seven catches for 72 yards. For the Golden Gophers, Foggie went 10 of 25 for 136 yards.

It was a satisfactory finish, too, for a Tennessee football team that staggered through a 2-5 start this season but rolled up five victories in a row to finish 7-5.

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Wasn't that Lou Holtz's Minnesota team? The postseason he took the ND job? Or am I remembering it wrong?
 
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RudyVol said:
I'm 29. I don't understand the Georgia answer much but maybe that's a personal thing for that guy. Florida takes the #1 spot by a good margin for me. I just don't really put Bama/Georgia in the "hate them" category and Michigan I certainly do but mostly for basketball purposes. I understand the Bama hatred/rivalry historically but we've only been competitive 3-4 times max since 2009 when Lane Kiffin and my dad got me interested in watching sports. I've been to probably 5-8 games each against Alabama, Florida, and Georgia, home and away, and somehow I've seen us win the same number of games against Florida/Bama at 1, and Georgia probably 3-4 times I've seen us win. The Bama games I went to mostly expecting to lose for better or worse, the Georgia game a mixed bag, and the Florida games I almost always went to expecting to win and we just crap the bed in ridiculous fashion. The way the Florida players act just adds to it. I think it's just deeply ingrained in their university to act like a piece of garbage. Not that Bama and Georgia are choir boys but they always act 10x better than Florida players. Even Muschamp said some cocky line of "I love seeing all these people come out to get disappointed". You don't hear Saban/Kirby/Richt saying that crap, not to my knowledge at least.
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With you on Florida, especially during the years they were down and still managed to beat us. That chomp is just irritating. With them it's the players and fans. I grew up on the stateline with AL so the rivalry was strong but their fans haven't ever really been the problem, just hate the team. Moved to Chatt for 10 years and the number of Bull "Dawg" fans I've had bark at me in bars made me hate their fans the most. Never minded the team too bad though.
 
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DD4ME said:
Lol 😆 wtf. HELL No. Saban has earned my respect though, and I do think they will win it all. Pisses me off we have to play them every year.
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Why do you respect a guy who only made the playoffs by means of the most hack, crooked, blatant one-sided corrupt officiating in football history? Only way he could beat us. I cite the Birmingham office's behavior as my witness. F him.

And before you start in repeating what the television told you to believe about his falsified "record," admit to yourself that he bought his entire first class, and every class after that, with the help of the corrupt NCAA, who deliberately turned a blind eye to it all. And that was the necessary condition of what he supposedly "accomplished". F him. Don't be gullible.
 
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CAVPUT said:
And that's what our offense is missing. Despite Nico's reported talents, he needs tools. I don't see our WRs coming anywhere close to Hyatt and Tillman. They don't have the speed. They've not shown that they even have the hands. Right now I'm not sure they can run decent routes much less make all the reads that are required in this offense.
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The good thing is, going into Hyatts last season you could have said the same thing about him that we are saying right now about a number of receivers. Hyatt worked hard that off-season and kept it up the rest of his time here and it paid off for him big time. Squirrel had almost double the yards this year than Hyatt had his first two years. Lots of potential within that group let’s just hope they take that lesson from Hyatt and work hard this off-season.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
You do realize that Tillman was injured most of the year last year and the only real difference in starters was Hyatt. I think the receivers look much better with Nico much like they did with Hooker. No slight to Joe, but he was pretty much a one read QB and had very up and down games. Joe played about as well as he could this year and he will always be a VFL. I hope he gets drafted high and makes some $$$.
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Tillman was a point of comparison. Maybe Thornton was finding his groove before being injured, but the point is that we don't have any dudes at the WR spot. White is a nice receiver, but if there's nothing else, Iowa can and will limit him. Again, my point is that Nico can't do this alone and I don't know if we've got enough weapons to let him operate effectively against this defense. Perhaps this is all just more hype for Iowa's defense and it's really a product of the schedule, but they certainly looked the part vs Michigan.
 
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DD4ME said:
I always find the debate on hating rivals interesting. I too had a staunch policy until some cousins and a brother in law joined the mix with rival affiliations, and i became older. I don't like their teams, but I like all of them, and they are fantastic to talk football with as long is it is shared rival. My one cousin gets some extra annoyance from me because he is insufferable (UGA) in winning, but takes his losses well enough.

As far as the Bama love I have been claimed to possess. I do hate them probably second to UF, but I will confess I am pretty impressed with what Saban has achieved. I have talked about them more than normal this year, because I think this may be one of Saban's best coaching performances, and the man is 70.
He will finish as likely the goat. IMO not as a Bama coach, just as a coach. I think there are a couple of schools Saban could have performed his feats at. Some maybe even easier than Bama. It was just our unfortunate luck he ended up at Bama. For that i truly despise them.

Same as it was Vandy's and Bama's luck that Neyland ended up with us. I can always respect greatness when I see it. I hate Tom Brady with a passion, but he was a bad ass.
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I don't "hate" any person. I can hate a program. As to Saban, he will go down as the all time great. I don't view him as great at all because he's been able to play by a different set of rules. His success will always be tainted in my eyes.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
maybe we would score 21 points a game instead of 35? Is that the type of development you want?
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You talkin' offense? Offense? I'm not. Just impressed by what Iowa is able to do with the players they field on defense as I mentioned in my post. Not sure, but I doubt they're anywhere close to how we recruit annually.
 
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