Recruiting Football Talk VII

[Devo182]

Big time player.

His performance vs Clemson will always be remembered by Vol fans.

 

[jave36]

How does it make it easier or have any effect?

Anyone that thinks a team playing with half their players validated the committee’s decision has to have the I Q of a fly on crack!

In a year those nuances and details will be fuzzy. 63-3 will always be starkly clear in the average person's mind.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Iowa's QB has been eating buttered pop tarts.

 

[85SugarVol]

How does it make it easier or have any effect?

Anyone that thinks a team playing with half their players validated the committee’s decision has to have the I Q of a fly on crack!

Well if you say so…

It was always abundantly clear to anyone with at least a room temperature IQ that FSU was nowhere near the same team without their QB - playing against mediocre teams.

They had all those guys that opted out for multiple games. And looked like an also-ran.

 

[GVol1966]

The perception that SEC is THE dominant conference is why Bama got in over FSU. Winning bowl season is a portion of creating that perception. Next year that perception could very well benefit us, though admittedly a 12 team playoff makes it less important.

Still, that perception isn't an overplayed sentiment. It matters. Nobody has debated the SEC dominance for 2 decades in part because the SEC has performed well against other conferences' teams in the post season. If several years went by where the SEC performed poorly in the post season, that dominance perception would diminish and we wouldn't get the benefits of that perception.

That’s a flat out lie!
The only reason Bama got in over FSU is because their starting QB was out for the rest of the season!
If he was able to play none of this debate is happening because they are in , period.

 

[jave36]

That’s a flat out lie!
The only reason Bama got in over FSU is because their starting QB was out for the rest of the season!
If he was able to play none of this debate is happening because they are in , period.

You're missing the point. Bama doesn't get in over FSU even with their injured QB if there wasn't a consensus that the SEC is the most dominant conference. That perception put them over the edge.

 

[GVol1966]

In a year those nuances and details will be fuzzy. 63-3 will always be starkly clear in the average person's mind.

I couldn’t tell you a single score from any of last year’s bowl games. Couldn’t care les what they were because 90% didn’t represent what their team was during the regular season.

I imagine most fans are thinking the same!

What I clearly remember is numerous opt outs every year for most bowl teams making the outcomes irrelevant. Just like that game!

 

[jave36]

I couldn’t tell you a single score from any of last year’s bowl games. Couldn’t care les what they were because 90% didn’t represent what their team was during the regular season.

I imagine most fans are thinking the same!

What I clearly remember is numerous opt outs every year for most bowl teams making the outcomes irrelevant. Just like that game!

Don't project your bad memory on to everyone else lol.

 

[ugg]

That experiment blows my mind.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Trying to talk sense into the anti NiL crowd is pointless.

Fine…. Take a stand and don’t contribute a paltry $25 a month.

Enjoy 8th best in the sec classes and complaining when we continue to finish 2nd for kids.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Share it everywhere! Cmon twitter vols!

 

[volbeast33]

I am asking genuinely then do you think it matters how they might have performed if let in? Is the decision strictly in fairness and earning it not on likelihood of winning? I promise not trying to debate you if that is your rationale, just trying to align.

not at all and no one knows for sure how they would have performed….. The 85 Vols were comparable…. lost a stud qb…. playing a walk on qb but the Vols came up with a plan to utilize that qbs strengths and absolutely dominated Miami on defense. it’s about earning a championship… Scores shouldn’t matter…The only reason it does is for monetary reasons.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Watching Iowa highlights... They look like a really bad Kentucky.

Also, oof. Nebraska is such a bad team.

Also, Iowa's secondary is going to get torched tomorrow, and I'm predicting we get at least two interceptions.

 

[GVol1966]

You're missing the point. Bama doesn't get in over FSU even with their injured QB if there wasn't a consensus that the SEC is the most dominant conference. That perception put them over the edge.

No the perception of the SEC didn’t put them in. It’s their blue blood bias.
If ole miss or Mizzou was sitting in Bamas place they weren’t getting in with FSU’s QB hurt.

 

[JohnnyD1024]

 

[DD4ME]

I couldn’t tell you a single score from any of last year’s bowl games. Couldn’t care les what they were because 90% didn’t represent what their team was during the regular season.

I imagine most fans are thinking the same!

What I clearly remember is numerous opt outs every year for most bowl teams making the outcomes irrelevant. Just like that game!

I remember us beating Clemson

 

[jave36]

I am asking genuinely then do you think it matters how they might have performed if let in? Is the decision strictly in fairness and earning it not on likelihood of winning? I promise not trying to debate you if that is your rationale, just trying to align.

Whether we agree or not, the committee has always proclaimed they use the regular season to HELP determine who the best 4 teams are currently. That's always been their stated goal, to put the current best 4 teams in. I don't necessarily agree, but they've made that very clear.

Everyone acting outraged that the committee is corrupt hasn't been paying attention. They're not hiding anything. It's never been about "deserving" or "fair." Plenty of fans want that to be the goal of the committee, but they've been so abundantly clear that's never been their goal.

 

[GVol1966]

Don't project your bad memory on to everyone else lol.

It’s not bad memory, even though mine ain’t what it used to be.
It’s not caring.

 

[volbeast33]

You're missing the point. Bama doesn't get in over FSU even with their injured QB if there wasn't a consensus that the SEC is the most dominant conference. That perception put them over the edge.

Nah…. money put them over the edge.

 

[OrangenSC]

Well said imo

This is why I love it that we go after transfers who have multiple years left, preferably 3. Certainly don't want 1-year guys; they're more likely to be the mercenaries.

 

[RikidyBones]

Alright degenerates. What are we betting today?!?

 

[jave36]

Alright degenerates. What are we betting today?!?

Ravens
Jags
Packers
Under in Philly/AZ

 

[RikidyBones]

Ravens
Jags
Packers
Under in Philly/AZ

RAVENS?!?!

 

[InVOLuntary]

All this talk about "fixing" CFB is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The issue is what it has been-- networks wanting to control the product to maximize viewership, revenue and egos. And "wanting" is really "demanding," since everybody in the trickle-down wants their money and will sell out for it.

It's the Hollywood model, with sports as entertainment, conferences as production companies, schools as show runners and players as content providers. Fans are the audience paying more and more for an increasingly diluted product.

Happy New year, LA.

Your points are exactly why I don't put any faith in the legitimacy of college football. It's completely scripted, imo. They know who is going to win the championship before the first kickoff of the season.

 

[MarcoVol]

Happy New year, LA.

Your points are exactly why I don't put any faith in the legitacy of college football. It's completely scripted, imo. They know who is going to win the championship before the first kickoff of the season.

Say what now