Recruiting Football Talk VII

[KPT_VFL]

It seems very simple to me. We will always have 7-10 wins, maybe an outlier year, but for the most part somewhere in that range. We will not be a consistent 11-12 win team until we recruit with the big boys at EVERY position. Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, Texas and Florida State (now) will always be at or near the top, again with outliers.

When we lose out on Chris Cole after they secured 6 or so top LBs in the last few years, it is just a larger picture of what we are. A decent team in a loaded conference.

We talk about Spyre all the time. Why are we not ponying up money? Seems like we have been beat out a lot by being outbid at the last second.

 

[BigSteve09]

Considering that McGregor hasn't won a fight since 2020, I'm not sure about using this GIF.

that's the joke, laying on the ground with a broken leg, not accepting reality

 

[Jackcrevol]

Considering that McGregor hasn't won a fight since 2020, I'm not sure about using this GIF.

Guy got too close to the river, and loved what he saw. Pretty sure there's a fable about that some where.

 

[Orange.]

We should do our own version of the "What Other Message Boards Are Saying" but for the FF instead of the opponent.

Funny to imagine , a disaster in fact: an invitation to defend their takes here. Maybe do it in the FF. But maybe better to let it go.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I hope Heupel addresses the stupid 30sec long celebratory handshakes and dances after a score.

 

[volinexile17]

This is exactly right. And the reason Heupel will not last here long term. He cannot recruit at a level to consistently win big.

Championships are won in Dec-February

Have you looked at our current class?

 

[BigSteve09]

We talk about Spyre all the time. Why are we not ponying up money? Seems like we have been beat out a lot by being outbid at the last second.

1.) we don't have nearly as many members as we should

2.) even if every single Vols fan were a member, it's not always about the money

3.) even still, it's better to have more money (= resources) (= advantages), so hopefully our fans get on board

4.) we will have to lure no less than THREE, possibly FOUR transfer OL this year. Not just bodies, we need starters looking for a better situation (or more $). So our fans better get on board or this isn't going to take off like we hope it does.

 

[Jimmy Football]

TE's have to be physical.

True, but that could have developed if he had committed to the position at a younger age. But yeah.

 

[CAVPUT]

I hope Heupel addresses the stupid 30sec long celebratory handshakes and dances after a score.

Well, since he let Hadden sprint 35 yards into the endzone then start high fiving and flexing for fans and the camera after he lucked into a pick without missing a snap, I doubt it will be addressed.

 

[BigSteve09]

We should do our own version of the "What Other Message Boards Are Saying" but for the FF instead of the opponent.

anyone from this side of the forum going over there to try to read the posts:

 

[Ashevolle]

1.) we don't have nearly as many members as we should

2.) even if every single Vols fan were a member, it's not always about the money

3.) even still, it's better to have more money (= resources) (= advantages), so hopefully our fans get on board

4.) we will have to lure no less than THREE, possibly FOUR transfer OL this year. Not just bodies, we need starters looking for a better situation (or more $). So our fans better get on board or this isn't going to take off like we hope it does.

Lol. Sounds like the makings of a great boondoggle.

 

[BigSteve09]

Lol. Sounds like the makings of a great boondoggle.

Call it what you want, but that's College Football in 2023.

 

[Ashevolle]

I don’t remember UF running as much motion across the line to spread out the LBs against Utah either. Idk if they did that much against McNeese but we were completely unprepared for it and it gave us a ton of issues.

Motion assignments should be defense 101. If we can't handle that, then our inexperience is showing. I find it hard to believe it was addressed in practice either.

 

[Ashevolle]

Call it what you want, but that's College Football in 2023.

I'll give them $5 a month. Nothing more. And I can well afford more.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

We'll see Nico this weekend, regardless of score he's going to get some PT gotta do it to keep the fans engaged and to help show Joe that he can't be comfortable.

 

[TheRain]

Trucked.

 

[MarcoVol]

We'll see Nico this weekend, regardless of score he's going to get some PT gotta do it to keep the fans engage and to help show Joe that he can't be comfortable.

Team has a chance to be 3-1 and fans need Nico to be engaged?

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Tua is elite. If they can protect him, nobody is stopping this offense.
#finsup

He sure has played well going back to last year. He just needs to stay healthy. McDaniels has just tailored a perfect offense for him though. So fun to watch.

 

[BigSteve09]

I'll give them $5 a month. Nothing more. And I can well afford more.

That's a good start. It's on the team to give their all for Tennessee, but we can help in whatever way as well.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Team has a chance to be 3-1 and fans need Nico to be engaged?

The thing with Nico, he's physically ready, it's just whenever the coaches think he's mentally ready. Do they allow Nico to check with the sidelines or do they want him to be Hooker before he plays.

 

[BigSteve09]

I don’t remember UF running as much motion across the line to spread out the LBs against Utah either. Idk if they did that much against McNeese but we were completely unprepared for it and it gave us a ton of issues.

I think everyone is going to pick on our LBs the rest of the season.

 

[BigSteve09]

The thing with Nico, he's physically ready, it's just whenever the coaches think he's mentally ready. Do they allow Nico to check with the sidelines or do they want him to be Hooker before he plays.

If Nico DOESN'T check with the sideline when the play clock is inside of 10 seconds I'll be happy.

 

[VolsnCards5]

Regarding Sampson: Wright is obviously the alpha back for us. But I can see why he looks at Small and wonders why he’s not getting those snaps. Everything Small does, Sampson does better.

Caveat: I haven’t watched him in pass protection enough to make a call there, though not sure how good Small is with that either. Or how often we actually ask our backs to stay in to pick up the blitz

Another thing to consider. In the first 2 games, Sampson seemed to get the majority of his snaps in the redzone. We weren’t in the redzone much against Florida.

Not sure why, or even if, Sampson is the redzone back, but it’s something that just occurred to me

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Team has a chance to be 3-1 and fans need Nico to be engaged?

Not all, but a very vocal amount.

Also the people throwing money at the NIL collective want to see what they're spending it on. Nico IS the future and the high profile investment for NIL, UTSA is the last team we face before we're deep into SEC play. They didn't play him a snap against Austin Peay (rumored injury I know, but should have been a game where Joe watched the last quarter)

 

[Rishvol]

For you guys wanting Leonhard. Did you forget the University handcuffed Heupel in that he was only allowed to hire a minority coach?