Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Vol423 said:
Then you should probably go back and re-read my two posts to which you responded. I said that in other countries the best atletes play soccer. In the U.S., the best athletes play a slew of other sports. That is the biggest reason that we don’t dominate the world in soccer.
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Some of these countries don’t even have 1/10 of the population that the US has and kick our a**. We have plenty of athletes to play every sport at an elite level. And we have plenty of elite athletes on the US national team. I named plenty of them and you not knowing any of them tells me all I need to know. Our coaching is horrendous. We have a middle school offensive identity.
 
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engineerVOL said:
We snuck into Neyland several times when I lived on campus. Would have absolutely found a way in to play in the snow. 🏈
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We used to do that back in the 80s..we would hop over the fence at the ramp and go in there and throw a football around...we usually got chased out by security guards after a few minutes, but they never caught any of us..

Thanks for the reminiscence..brought a tear to my eye, one of my partner in crime cousins that I used to do that with died this week and he was a huge Vol fan..he was only 51 😥
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We used to do that back in the 80s..we would hop over the fence at the ramp and go in there and throw a football around...we usually got chased out by security guards after a few minutes, but they never caught any of us..

Thanks for the reminiscence..brought a tear to my eye, one of my partner in crime cousins that I used to do that with died this week and he was a huge Vol fan..he was only 51 😥
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Sorry for your loss McGill….prayers sent.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Offensive line –

As we are often reminded, offensive line is a developmental group. Generally it takes three years to prepare an offensive lineman for action in the SEC. Rarely does a high school recruit report to campus ready on day one but it does happen every now and then. jmo.

Georgia probably has the best OLine on our schedule this year but there’s a window coming up where they may have a drop off. If you believe the recruiting services then Kirby’s OLine recruits in 2022 were well below their standards, only one out of 5 were blue chips. As a matter of fact considering the class we signed in 2024 we may be actually closing the gap a bit. jmo.

Alabama’s offensive line is below their recent talent standards and this year there’s a lot of young guys penciled into the two-deep, including multiple first time starters in only their second year on campus. These aren’t their typical five-stars or even top 100 players. DeBoer has thus far brought a couple of his guys from Washington to try to shore up the unit. James Pearce Jr & Co. may have a field day come this year’s Third Saturday in October. jmo.

Our staff has done a pretty good job I think of trying to get us past the lack of OLine recruiting in the 2021 cycle but we probably have at least one more year to jump through hoops. This year it was about retaining Cooper, Javontez, and John Campbell. Bringing in Heard hopefully will help out for a couple of years but I think they wanted two transfers this cycle because next year we have to replace the three holdovers and going after three will be challenging enough but we may now need four. Maybe some of the young guys we’ve got will get up to speed quicker than expected. The 2024 class typically should not be expected to take the field until the 2026 season at the earliest. jmo.

Our OLine last year was selected as a semifinalist for the Joe Moore award for best OLine in the country. Washington won. We were selected as a semifinalist in 2022 too; Michigan won in 2022. Apparently our coaches are doing a pretty good job, maybe even doing more with less. jmo.

Offensive line returning production accounts for almost 50% of total offensive returning production in Bill Connelly’s SP+ analytical model. The offensive line could be argued to be the most important unit on the field for that side of the ball because no matter how elite the skill positions the SEC is a line of scrimmage league. It used to be you could have success if you had a bunch of 300 pounders manning the line but 325 is the new 300 and it’s been that way in the SEC for at least the last 10-12 years. jmo.

Coaches across the country have said OLine prospects are the most difficult to evaluate in the recruiting process so many teams, including Georgia, take an average of five guys per class knowing that maybe only a couple of them will actually work out. Georgia took six in 2024.

Finally, most predictions at this point are projecting us to lose to Georgia and Alabama this year. I'm not buying that Alabama is a likely loss for us in Neyland. Georgia on the road seems like a reasonable forecast but the other team on our schedule that talking heads think may be a loss for us is Oklahoma.

This little tidbit from Sooner’s wire has be far from convinced that I should worry all that much about Oklahoma. jmo.



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Great points, and I agree. I actually believe this year is our best chance to win a national championship due to our lines, & Bama's transition. We just need UGA to lose in the playoffs and not face them twice because, right or wrong, I believe Kirby has our offense figured out. I will go on record now, saying DeBoer's offense will do well in this league, but his current roster does not at all match what he prefers or needs. We HAVE to capitalize. Milroe is not a fast decision-maker, his current line is not nimble enough for his scheme. Alabama's offensive line is or was bigger than 95% of NFL offensive lines. DeBoer uses all kinds of line movement and schemes that those hogs will not be suited for. I believe in Heupel, but he has to make this year count or I promise you we can plan on a Richt type deal.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
We used to do that back in the 80s..we would hop over the fence at the ramp and go in there and throw a football around...we usually got chased out by security guards after a few minutes, but they never caught any of us..

Thanks for the reminiscence..brought a tear to my eye, one of my partner in crime cousins that I used to do that with died this week and he was a huge Vol fan..he was only 51 😥
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prayers brother
 
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DD4ME said:
Great points, and I agree. I actually believe this year is our best chance to win a national championship due to our lines, & Bama's transition. We just need UGA to lose in the playoffs and not face them twice because, right or wrong, I believe Kirby has our offense figured out. I will go on record now, saying DeBoer's offense will do well in this league, but his current roster does not at all match what he prefers or needs. We HAVE to capitalize. Milroe is not a fast decision-maker, his current line is not nimble enough for his scheme. Alabama's offensive line is or was bigger than 95% of NFL offensive lines. DeBoer uses all kinds of line movement and schemes that those hogs will not be suited for. I believe in Heupel, but he has to make this year count or I promise you we can plan on a Richt type deal.
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WTF man? Kirby ain't figured out 💩...he has a great defense and the officials let them maul our players.
 
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