Recruiting Football Talk VII

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LA Vol said:
UT is on top of this NCAA investigation. Admin knew it was coming, and it was inevitable. The NCAA thought UT was not punished sufficiently last year, they did not like the support UT brought in and they were not through with UT. UT did not appreciate the way the NCAA said one thing and did another, and UT admin did not appreciate the late add-ons.

Everybody put a good public face on it, but neither side was happy with the other or the outcome of the investigation. Coming after UT as a repeat offender was always going to happen. The NCAA wanted to make an example out of big powerful school, and UT has been painted as a rogue program in multiple sports. (Hint: baseball.) This is unfinished business, and UT is prepared to finish it.
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So what you're saying is there was 100% a bias against us last year.
 
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LA Vol said:
I do not think they will drop it because of a strongly worded letter. Get your popcorn.
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Do you feel like lawsuits are coming if they do give us a notice of allegation? I am just assuming based on what the chancellor is saying in her letter, but seems like the university will fight it in court
 
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matt_mccoy19 said:
And you think that a player who has scored 13 points in 6 games playing 25+ minutes is what’s good for the team?
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CRB does and his opinion is the only one that matters.. I back the Deacons decision on how to run this team..

If JJJ is who he believes should play so be it..
 
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BigOrange15 said:
Badly. Other schools will join us in fighting this too because first us, then them. We have all been playing in the same ****.
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This is what needs to happen. Class action their b!tch azzes. Hammer down all the way to SCOTUS if needed. Totally destroy including forcing the payment of damages that the member schools that stick around have to pay out of pocket.

There is no insurance coverage for Board members of the org that will pay claims for willful misconduct.

JMO - the only way NIL can change is if the players vote to unionize and then only after the NCAA is stripped of any authority.

It is way past time for the major programs - the P4 or whatever - to break away from that corrupt organization forever in all sports.
 
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Whenever the notice of allegations comes the university would then need to get with the state attorney general to file a class action lawsuit against the ncaa.

That’s my best guess at what will happen next and this will get litigated out for years until ultimately the ncaa relents. Maybe LAVol can shed a better picture than me into the future but that’s how I see it.
 
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KPT_VFL said:
Is there anything to worry about? Effect recruiting? Etc. They would try and paint us as a target as soon as we start to rise again.
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Of course. It's not a good thing to be labelled a repeat offender. It creates distractions nobody wants or needs, and it puts added pressure on coaches to recruit around it. People will continue to use any investigation or allegations of wrongdoing against UT, as they always have. And the university doesn't like the negative publicity or the inevitable smear campaigns by the usual suspects.
 
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LA Vol said:
Of course. It's not a good thing to be labelled a repeat offender. It creates distractions nobody wants or needs, and it puts added pressure on coaches to recruit around it. People will continue to use any investigation or allegations of wrongdoing against UT, as they always have. And the university doesn't like the negative publicity or the inevitable smear campaigns by the usual suspects.
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I will say that, so far, the public response has been far more positive towards us than I would have expected. I think most people are kind of done with the NCAA and realize what a farce this whole situation has turned into.
 
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LA Vol said:
Of course. It's not a good thing to be labelled a repeat offender. It creates distractions nobody wants or needs, and it puts added pressure on coaches to recruit around it. People will continue to use any investigation or allegations of wrongdoing against UT, as they always have. And the university doesn't like the negative publicity or the inevitable smear campaigns by the usual suspects.
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we are being singled out. THE most damning thing is that NCAA pres refused to meet with our team. NCAA dont want this.

We can show compelling evidence of singling out. Create shreds of doubt bc of our own cooperation, and bc of Spyre's world class detailed legal counsel.

No way this ends well for them. This reeks of last deperate heave, of a toothless gianf.

It is grasping at straws.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
we are being singled out. THE most damning thing is that NCAA pres refused to meet with our team. NCAA dont want this.

We can show compelling evidence of singling out. Create shreds of doubt bc of our own cooperation, and bc of Spyre's world class detailed legal counsel.

No way this ends well for them.
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Add to that statements coming from Donde, state reps, and Tom Mars indicating that we’ve been going out of our way to discern rules/compliance with no help from the NCAA.

Seems like there’s plenty of evidence stacked to suggest we did all we could to be compliant but the NCAA is dead set on being stupid.
 
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TheRain said:
Repeat offenders, Lack of institutional control and a very real desire to make an example... UT is fighting for their lives. Yes, this is serious.
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We are lawyering up, the question is will the ncaa want this battle in a court room? From what Donde said it sure seems that is where it is heading
 
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Jackcrevol said:
we are being singled out. THE most damning thing is that NCAA pres refused to meet with our team. NCAA dont want this.

We can show compelling evidence of singling out. Create shreds of doubt bc of our own cooperation, and bc of Spyre's world class detailed legal counsel.

No way this ends well for them. This reeks of last deperate heave, of a toothless gianf.

It is grasping at straws.
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UT has a reputation of rolling over whenever the NCAA comes sniffing around, even if it is for
their own agenda like getting Pruitt fired with cause.
I think the NCAA badly underestimated how hard UT would fight this time and they failed to read the room when it came to how other schools and fans felt about their non-stop bull****. Hell, the main national story is not about what the NCAA said but about Plowman's fiery response.
WE control the narrative.
 
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GoodTimeVol said:
Do you feel like lawsuits are coming if they do give us a notice of allegation? I am just assuming based on what the chancellor is saying in her letter, but seems like the university will fight it in court
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It's already a legal process. The chancellor is fronting it, and she's very good at that. You don't write a letter like that without a legal strategy in play. And you don't go public without support behind you.
 
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