Recruiting Football Talk VII

[KB5252]

I'm pretty sure my dad was in college with that guy in the 70's

 

[peaygolf]

Lighter note……imagine hitting driver to a 107 yard par 3 ……

 

[Devo182]

NCAA is contractors hired by the Schools to manage and enforce rules.

Eventually the schools will realize they hired The Three Stooges and can do much better

They didn't contract an already existing group. Factually...just wrong.

The member universities, pushed by Teddy Roosevelt, created the NCAA as a governing body. Because they knew they all wanted rules and...someone...has to govern and enforce them.

The universities, via faculty, admin, student-athletes, ADs, etc, vote on all major boards and control it.

That also doesn't mean the body and some universities won't disagree. Like any voting body vs populace (see: congress). That has grown with sketchy NiL guidance.

Will another university-led iteration end up in the same vein? Yes. Moreso it would be more concentrated in the hands of your rivals, not spread out across 300+ D1 schools. Likely an even worse version.

That's to say - the current NCAA sucks and always has. Because it's run by universities and always will be. Maybe it's time for a private organization to run things for the schools. One that actually follows federal laws and basic market understandings. I mean, how LONG was the universities' amatuerism facade clearly illegal according to federal law? Over 100 years...?

 

[Orange_Crush]

NCAA about to find out, as soon as the cage is opened:

 

[knoxvol52]

Lighter note……imagine hitting driver to a 107 yard par 3 ……

Nice shot ..

 

[BigSteve09]

The amount of preparation, time and due diligence that has gone into this is impressive.

I cannot be more proud of my University and the State of TN.

This will be the type of case law that is talked about for decades and decades.

I truly believe that TN will not stop when pursuing this.

The NCAA is one of the most corrupt organizations there is, and I that is coming to an abrupt end. No more. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

Some schools won’t join the fight cause they know their “protective shield” is about to disappear.

posts like this make me click the Like button with my whole fist

 

[peaygolf]

They didn't contract an already existing group. Factually...just wrong.

The member universities, pushed by Teddy Roosevelt, created the NCAA as a governing body. Because they knew they all wanted rules and...someone...has to govern and enforce them.

The universities, via faculty, admin, student-athletes, ADs, etc, vote on all major boards and control it.

That also doesn't mean the body and some universities won't disagree. Like any voting body vs populace (see: congress). That has grown with sketchy NiL guidance.

Will another university-led iteration end up in the same vein? Yes. Moreso it would be more concentrated in the hands of your rivals, not spread out across 300+ D1 schools. Likely an even worse version.

That's to say - the current NCAA sucks and always has. Because it's run by universities and always will be. Maybe it's time for a private organization to run things for the schools.

Amazon Prime……it’s in the works……

 

[Volnut]

Exactly what I told all my friends when posted in group text.

Literally everyone except for Alabama, Georgia, Ohio St. and Michigan is being "investigated" for this. It's a joke.

FYP

 

[LA Vol]

It's strange that they backed off due to AG threats, thinking they'd then go for what the AG threatened against (postseason ban).

If memory serves, the TN AG stated: "Our state law prohibits post-season ban. Kick rocks." Unless state law changed in their favor, it's stupid to back off just so you can try to take that same ground.

Yeah, I don't remember the exact verbiage, but it said that Tennessee law prohibits the NCAA from imposing sanctions that violate state law and that Tennessee will fully protect the rights of its SAs. It made the legal positioning very clear. Not sure why the NCAA took another whack at it, but they presumably did not expect Tennessee to mobilize swiftly and take such an aggressive stance.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

You mean, for instance, whether the Chair of the NCAA Board of Directors -- Jere Morehead, the President of the University of Georgia --approved it?

Oh man, my hatred of bama had me looking in the wrong direction. It wasn't Tuscaloosa, this time, although they could be in cahoots with UGA. (They've done it with scheduling for years.) This BS could definitely be stemming from Athens. You are on to something my friend.


The Nico Effect is real and the SEC is scared.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Somebody done screwed around and found out.

 

[screenthis]

Hey yall, it’s been pretty quiet in here today! I haven’t seen this posted so I thought I’d post it. It looks like we are suing the NCAA!

Wut? Quiet? Not posted?

 

[BigSteve09]

Yes, this has been in the works for months. UT knew it was coming, assembled a legal team, mobilized support, developed strategy, drafted and redrafted legal docs, got approval up the chain, prepared to execute and did just that. UT warned the NCAA and so did the AG. I wouldn't say the NCAA was exactly blindsided. Underestimated Tennessee and miscalculated consequences-- obviously.

your posts have had me ready to run through a wall

 

[screenthis]

Exactly what I told all my friends when posted in group text.

Literally everyone is being "investigated" for this. It's a joke.

And yet, they choose to go after us first (or close to first)? Ummm, why does it seem they are singling out UT?

 

[Devo182]

Welp, he's right there.

Full of crap and the fans are paying. The unis and ncaa need to get right with jesus.

 

[Devo182]

And yet, they choose to go after us first (or close to first)? Ummm, why does it seem they are singling out UT?

Fsu and UF were first. Probably others, but those are the P5 names.

Imo Nico is an easy target because it was so public. But @LAVol also said why.

Those folks have been residents on our campus for 2 years straight.

 

[Orange_Crush]

And yet, they choose to go after us first (or close to first)? Ummm, why does it seem they are singling out UT?

LA Vol has been answering that for two days.

 

[screenthis]

I get it. 100%
I don’t want to go down this path. I’ve beat myself silly for years arguing against it……and I wish I could have had a job while playing college golf by giving lessons or clinics….

No reason to even try to close Pandora’s box. College athletics are forever changed, and not for the better.

I hope Tennessee wins its case and burns the entire NCAA system to the ground. Start all over and try to make it work for everyone. All schools and all athletes.

I hope you're wrong. College sports desperately needs rules/guidelines. And yes, I don't want to get in a big thing about it. But I don't want College Football to basically be a Pro League simply feeding players to the NFL. If it's not more like an amateur sport than pro sport, I loose a good deal of interest. If it becomes (remains) a few haves and mostly have nots, I'm not interested. I could go on and on but primarily, we need controls but not by the joke of an NCAA.

 

[Devo182]

FYP

We'll see. Dozens and dozens are. Only 3 out of 20-30+ have been revealed so far

 

[screenthis]

Fsu and UF were first. Probably others, but those are the P5 names.

Imo Nico is an easy target because it was so public. But @LAVol also said why.

Those folks have been residents on our campus for 2 years straight.

My understanding is that the Florida case is a 'different beast' and doesn't come down to this issue of NIL inducements. Could be completely wrong.

 

[Jackcrevol]

holy ****.

 

[peaygolf]

I hope you're wrong. College sports desperately needs rules/guidelines. And yes, I don't want to get in a big thing about it. But I don't want College Football to basically be a Pro League simply feeding players to the NFL. If it's not more like an amateur sport than pro sport, I loose a good deal of interest. If it becomes (remains) a few haves and mostly have nots, I'm not interested. I could go on and on but primarily, we need controls but not by the joke of an NCAA.

Get ready……..better find a junior tackle team to root for.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Nice shot ..

twss

So @LA Vol feels like we good, ya?

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

Get your popcorn.

 

[Devo182]

She should give many staunch republicans just as much heartburn, as she was against crony capitalism just as much as she was against communism and socialism. lol

Libertarians: Personal freedoms and personal responsibilities.

Also staunch advocate of abortion rights. As she was a libertarian.

She'd probably piss both American parties off equally