Recruiting Football Talk VII

[SoilVol]

Exactly what I told all my friends when posted in group text.

Literally everyone is being "investigated" for this. It's a joke.

Yep and what I speculated yesterday. Yet the Vols were the only team Forde and ESPN chose to crucify. Literally ran every 3rd segment on the ticker tape yesterday

 

[Orange_Crush]

 

[MarcoVol]

Yes, this has been in the works for months. UT knew it was coming, assembled a legal team, mobilized support, developed strategy, drafted and redrafted legal docs, got approval up the chain, prepared to execute and did just that. UT warned the NCAA and so did the AG. I wouldn't say the NCAA was exactly blindsided. Underestimated Tennessee and miscalculated consequences-- obviously.

Pretty cool having adults in charge

 

[Orange.]

Off the board, today.

Forde the pawn was last seen drinking from a paper bag in a pawn shop parking lot, according to sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

 

[MarcoVol]

Yep and what I speculated yesterday. Yet the Vols were the only team Forde and ESPN chose to crucify. Literally ran every 3rd segment on the ticker tape yesterday

Because UT does numbers

 

[Orange_Crush]

 

[Grey_pilgrim]

Tell me youre panicked, without tellin me youre panicked

“While the NCAA generally doesnt comment on specific infraction cases”

Dey scared.

 

[screenthis]

Get ready……..better find a junior tackle team to root for.

That's it. High School only for me. Wait, is NIL coming to High School sports?

 

[GVol1966]

They didn't contract an already existing group. Factually...just wrong.

The member universities, pushed by Teddy Roosevelt, created the NCAA as a governing body. Because they knew they all wanted rules and...someone...has to govern and enforce them.

The universities, via faculty, admin, student-athletes, ADs, etc, vote on all major boards and control it.

That also doesn't mean the body and some universities won't disagree. Like any voting body vs populace (see: congress). That has grown with sketchy NiL guidance.

Will another university-led iteration end up in the same vein? Yes. Moreso it would be more concentrated in the hands of your rivals, not spread out across 300+ D1 schools. Likely an even worse version.

That's to say - the current NCAA sucks and always has. Because it's run by universities and always will be. Maybe it's time for a private organization to run things for the schools. One that actually follows federal laws and basic market understandings. I mean, how LONG was the universities' amatuerism facade clearly illegal according to federal law? Over 100 years...?

Not factually wrong! Didn’t say they contracted an existing group did I? No.

Every sports organization has a governing body!
The NFL has the commissioner ( who is contracted to running the league) and league office. By the owners.

The members of the NCAA have a contract with a president and a bunch of minions to administrate and govern the members.

 

[smokeyhuntsgators]

 

[Weezer]

 

[Weezer]

When do we march on NCAA HQ?

 

[eVOLve]

We got the NCAA by the nuts. It’s been subtly hinted that the SEC as a whole is gonna jump on this with us..

 

[Orange_Crush]

So, the case is filed in TN district of federal court. Would that permanent injunction have jurisdiction in only TN, or would it be a national scope? National, correct?

 

[peaygolf]

That's it. High School only for me. Wait, is NIL coming to High School sports?

I’d b!+ch like a banshee if I was a stud HS kid in any sport….pay me or I’ll transfer

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

But it’s TN they’re going to go after….Hypocrisy thy name is NCAA.

 

[Checker_the_Shire]

So, the case is filed in TN district of federal court. Would that permanent injunction have jurisdiction in only TN, or would it be a national scope? National, correct?

National because it’s federal.

 

[eVOLve]

@Freak Give every VOL brother and sister on VolNation a LIKE from me!

WE MUST CELEBRATE THIS MOMENTUS OCCASION!!

 

[Jack Burton]

Jack Burtons mailbag looked good today.

 

[Paper_Towel]

NSIAP

 

[Orange.]

I am as well, and they can be sued for arbitrarily and capriciously enforcing their own bylaws and rules, in addition to more anti-trust issues violating the Sherman Act. But, that’s not my area, so I will let those advising Plowman handle it.

Preach! I really hope this is included.

This is why people who say, "But the NCAA IS the schools" don't tell the full story. There are agendas, and the people in charge have biases. You can't trust the leadership and who is calling the shots because the enforcement is always uneven and outrageous.

Exactly.

 

[85SugarVol]

Surprising no one, Woken had no clue what he’s talking about.

What is Woken whining about now?

 

[tnhunter 10]

I didn't read Forde, so I can't comment in that context, but the NCAA's weapons are Lack of Institutional Control and a postseason ban, both of which the NCAA pushed last time. They were forced to back off both when the AG got involved and weren't happy about it. Coming after UT in the probationary window allows them to treat UT as a repeat violator, reopening the door to a LOIC and harsher sanctions, including threatening to keep UT out of the playoffs.

I thought the CFP was separate from the NCAA. That's one reason Michigan would have been in the playoff no matter what punishment the NCAA gave them.

 

[gordonr24]

“Neighboring states”

Good grief. Stop sucking off to Alabama and Georgia, NCAA.

 

[Kurtastrophe]

“Bu…buh…but! Everyone told us Tennessee bad?!”