Recruiting Football Talk VII

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Woodlawn VOL said:
It would be great to win it all in the next few years and watch this group have to hand us that Championship trophy! GBO
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The refs employed by this group won’t ever allow it to happen. You think it’s crooked now? Let us be playing for a NC with all of this going on. Egregious won’t even come close to describing it.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
"Inducement" == right to freely negotiate their NIL?

What isn't being discussed there is actually what's at the center of the lawsuit: Anti-trust laws and collusion. Does the NCAA have the right to prevent student athletes from an open market to negotiate their NIL values to the fullest extent?

The NCAA's response? "We're trying to protect the student athletes from an open market at the request of those colluding to prevent the open market."

The NCAA == the universities == the colluders. When sued for collusion, they make a public statement confirming the collusion. lol smdh
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To look at it from the NCAA side of things.... NIL was never meant to be a part of paying players to play and certainly not meant to be used as a way of getting players to come to your school.

What NIL was for is illustrated well with the Alontae Cookie deal. In that situation, a popular player endorsed a cookie brand and company for pay. Everything about that is perfectly fine and legal and Alontae was profiting off his own NIL value. It's an example of how NIL should've been set up all along. And why the NCAA recent rule change about incoming recruits DOES make sense. Most recruits have no NIL value and don't gain value until after playing. You would have some exceptions to that with celebrity level recruits but overall most are coming in with zero NIL value and will create that value by being a part of the team and university.

Where the NCAA screwed up is they abandoned their post for 3 years. After Alston, they didn't say 'here's how NIL should function' (e.g. the cookie example). No, they said "follow you state's laws on NIL." Schools did just that and now the NCAA is unhappy with the results but they were absolutely 100 percent predictable outcomes that the NCAA had the opportunity to prevent. They ran away to congress and found no shelter there and now they're trying to come home and rule the neighborhood again. The problem comes back to those 3 years of telling everyone to follow state laws. You can't punish that time frame and you can't let things go for 3 years and expect schools to go along with it. An entire NIL industry has been built in the meantime and whatever was intended at the beginning is no longer palatable for the players involved.

The only way for the NCAA to regain control of any of this is by consensus and instead of meeting with UT in December when we requested it, they declined. THAT was their chance to start the process of governing the NIL era through building consensus with those involved in it. The NCAA is acting like an absent father who shows back up after 5 years and expects his kids to listen to every word he says and take it as law. It's not going to happen. And just like with those kids, you weren't there when NIL was growing up and if you want to be involved in it now, you have to earn your way back in.
 
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tnhunter 10 said:
Braden Gall was on Josh and Swain today stating watch for Mississippi to join TN and VA on the lawsuit. Braden also said he wouldn't be surprised if other big NIL states like Texas to join.
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And Cali, they were one of the first to open it up.

Having big states like Texas, Cali, (Florida?) would seriously grow weight.
 
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