Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[85SugarVol]

Don’t answer your pagers boys

 

[engineerVOL]

I remember when ppl were saying a couple of years ago, they would give a testicle to be great again.

Most of us got a spare one though. I can’t buy groceries with my plums.

 

[DarthVol1]

The pods are funny, man. Always something to be concerned with. Used to be just winning. Now it’s a concern that the offense hasn’t had to play a full game yet. So many concerns, always concerned.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Butch's best
2015 - 4th rated 30 commits 1 5 star, 15 4 stars, 12 3 stars, 89.48 average player rating
2014 - 7th rated 32 commits 0 5 star, 16 4 stars, 16 3 stars, 89.50 average player rating

Heuepl's best (so far)
2025 - 7th rated 24 commits 1 5 star, 14 4 stars, 9 3 stars, 91.59 average player rating
2024 - 14th rated 21 commits 2 5 stars, 11 4 stars, 8 3 stars, 91.16 average player rating
2023 - 10th rated 25 commits 1 5 star, 13 4 stars, 11 3 stars, 90.87 average player rating

Pretty close to me.

If you go look at other classes from those years, it’s actually really close to other teams.

Give us an advantage and I’m all for it. The announcement today isn’t one since other teams will follow. Will be more of the same.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I remember when ppl were saying a couple of years ago, they would give a testicle to be great again.

I meant I'd give your testicle to be good again, not mine.

 

[rikberry31]

It’s totally different now.

We weren’t paying 8mil to one player. We were never paying the players OUR money previously.

Oh yes we were. The university doesn't have a printing press like the government, they get THEIR money from us.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I remember when ppl were saying a couple of years ago, they would give a testicle to be great again.

Yeah, but that was a ONE time transaction, not every time we go buy a ticket to ANY sporting event...

I mean it is what it is those of us who can will pay for the additional cost and those of us who can't won't. I think there are enough that can though. Seems they're working to improve fan experience though so it's worth it long term if that remains a priority.

 

[DD4ME]

I don't love this guy for his UGA slant, but he does a great job breaking film study down. This is us versus OK study.

He focused on OK trying to stop us.

Quick takes:
They have the size on the line to slow our run, but they typically play too many bodies in the box.

Their secondary is likely too slow not to get exposed on some explosives.

Venebales loves to get fancy which could confuse Nico, but also could get exploited.

He encouraged TN fans to bet the over on passing yards and encouraged OK to pray they get turnovers.

 

[Jack Burton]

But we recruited with the best with Butch?

No, we didn’t. Those classes contained a lot of paper 4*s and players other SEC teams didn’t want. It’s why Feldman viewed a spring practice and said we didn’t look like an SEC team. It was a sham. We’re now getting guys that championship programs want.

 

[VolsnCards5]

Interesting wrinkle to the game will be how Nico handles the blitz on 3rd down. Venables is so good at dialing them up. Will be a good learning moment for Nico.

I vote we just don’t have any third downs

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Clemson?

According to the board they don’t use NIL, but they recruited roughly the same team as us last cycle.
2/10/10
2/11/8

This season they are sitting at 10/4. Not bad for a team with apparently no NIL.

You know as well as I do that the transfer portal plays heavily into the mix and it isn't all about recruiting rankings. NIL plays a big part there too. As for Clemson, that's a program going in the wrong direction. We've beaten them out for several elite recruits that would've went there just a few years ago when they still looked like they could compete at an elite level. They would struggle to stay mid-pack in the SEC. Dabo doesn't embrace the transfer portal and doesn't publicly embrace NIL (although their players do get NIL money).

 

[Orange_Crush]

Not sure if it's been posted, or sorry if it has...

 

[Orange_Crush]

Interesting wrinkle to the game will be how Nico handles the blitz on 3rd down. Venables is so good at dialing them up. Will be a good learning moment for Nico.

He makes his money from disguising the blitzes. Not sure how easy he can do that against our wide splits. Hallmark of that is that defenders pretty much have to choose and declare. Too much space to defend.

 

[UT = Checkmate]

QB play level has sank since Brady, Brees, and Manning.

Young Rodgers too

 

[Visidog]

Not sure if it's been posted, or sorry if it has...

Brooks is really good and knows the game.

 

[DD4ME]

Clemson?

According to the board they don’t use NIL, but they recruited roughly the same team as us last cycle.
2/10/10
2/11/8

This season they are sitting at 10/4. Not bad for a team with apparently no NIL.

Brother they use NIL to buy HS recruits. They don't use the transfer portal because Dabo is stubborn. They also got molly whopped by a UGA team that barely squeaked past UK. Both of those teams actively use the portal. You do your own math on that.

 

[VolNRaleighNC]

He focused on OK trying to stop us.

Quick takes:
They have the size on the line to slow our run, but they typically play too many bodies in the box.

Their secondary is likely too slow not to get exposed on some explosives.

Venebales loves to get fancy which could confuse Nico, but also could get exploited.

He encouraged TN fans to bet the over on passing yards and encouraged OK to pray they get turnovers.

I think this matchup will be Nico’s first real test. NC Slaw was wayyy overrated. I do think OU front 5-7 could slow our run which would make Nico have to beat them. His stat lines have been good, not great, so I think he’ll have to fill the stat sheet a bit more on Saturday.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

No, we didn’t. Those classes contained a lot of paper 4*s and players other SEC teams didn’t want. It’s why Feldman viewed a spring practice and said we didn’t look like an SEC team. It was a sham. We’re now getting guys that championship programs want.

Butch thought for some reason the recruiting ratings mattered toward his performance or something...

The amount of DNP recruits he took was astounding, and some didn't even make it to campus or get injured during camp.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I personally like the Smokey Greys...but it's a once a year uniform IMO.


My least favorite is actually white tops orange bottoms. And I'd like to see a true all orange (with orange helmet) at least once, then they can retire that helmet

I don't really give a crap what we wear...as long as it's not neon or metallic colors.

I love any combo of the O&W and I love the all Orange and the different Stormtrooper designs...I love this year's Smokeys (the only one I really have not liked at all was the one with orange shoulders last year) and I absolutely love the Dark Modes..


So...Just Win Baby!

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

If OU drops eight we will kill them with throwing to the flat and run game, when they step up and go man we will deep slant or fly them (we have the speed to take off the top). Disguising their blitzes will be much more difficult due to us lining up sideline to sideline.
OU's offense will have a much harder time vs our defense than we will against theirs.

Hope so. They do have 10 takeaways so that is always a concern for an offense.

 

[DD4ME]

Speaking of UGA. They suck in explosives without NFL hall of fame tight ends on their team. By far our best chance to beat them since Kirby got there. Also UK knew their plays. I think it helped a lot they had two high profile UGA transfers. UK was literally pointing where the ball was going. Important to remember since Mincey is there. We will need to mix up.

 

[cHiZzLeVOL]

For those not happy with ticket prices or NIL this may not be well received.

I mean…. 10% is not much…. Basically tipping the players lol.

 

[Glitch]

The bold I 1000% agree with. They could also create rate bands. A freshmen wouldn't make as much as a senior, but a starting freshmen would make more than a redshirt that isn't playing etc.

With the current NIL you're basically throwing cash at potential and some may never develop, may never go to the school anyway, or may not play there at all (Quinn Ewers for example with Ohio State).

I forgot that Ewers went to OSU for a minute before going to NMU. Bwahahaha @ OSU.

 

[TrippieRedd]

No, we didn’t. Those classes contained a lot of paper 4*s and players other SEC teams didn’t want. It’s why Feldman viewed a spring practice and said we didn’t look like an SEC team. It was a sham. We’re now getting guys that championship programs want.

2015 contained a ton of “paper 4 stars” that no one wanted? 15 of those kids were ranked in top 250 or top CC.

Lowest 4 star on that list was Sheriron, if I’m not mistaken…it was between us and Florida for him

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Unrelated, rewatching the NC State game a bit as I start cutting highlights from it...

The INT Nico tossed was a bad play call and a worse decision.

We had just 2 WRs running routes against their 3 man front, NC State dropped everyone in zone and didn't blitz... we kept 2 TEs and the RB in for pass protection. Nico should have either ran or thrown it away and move to the next play.