Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Orange_Crush]

I am not well...

So you DO eat cats!

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

Here is some more context on why Oklahoma has lived a very privileged existence in their history.

Let's take their 1956 team that finished No.1 for example. They beat ONE team with a winning record, No.20 Colorado by 8.

Otherwise they beat
1-9 Texas
2-8 Notre Dame
2-8 UNC
3-6-1 Kansas
3-7 K State
4-6 Nebraska
4-5-1 Mizzou
3-5-2 Oklahoma St

Compare that record to the Vols who finished No.2
5-4 Chatt (wasn't FCS then)
7-3 Auburn
5-4-1 Duke
5-5 Vandy who had been ranked.
6-4 UK
7-3 No.19 Ole Miss
Won AT 10-1 No.2 Georgia Tech.

It's not even close, but they got the nod because of their cupcake filled winning streak. Most of their history is filled with dominating crap programs. They invested a little more than everyone else and have had a pretty dang easy road to being a blueblood.

Tennessee is 2-3 against them H2H. All other numbers IMO as a Tennessee fan perspective are irrelevant.

 

[butchna]

AP had a flub on the VQ podcast. Yelled “Tyre West can’t go pro!” He’s a third year player.

 

[itsme]

I'm 6'4" and around 220. Was almost down to 210 (my goal weight). But I fluctuate. Still will be overweight according to BMI.

I'm 5'-11" weighing in at 235ish a few years ago I was running up to 8 miles 2-3 times per week and lifting heavy. I had to do an insurance exam which told me I was obese boardering on morbidly obese. I went and took health coaching from a 5'-4" 250 lb lady that told me I really had to start making better health choices. All I could remember was my wife saying "please don't say anything" to me before I went. It got so bad that certain individuals within the office started adjusting my numbers so I wouldn't have to go do that crap yearly.

 

[Glitch]

So you DO eat cats!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I dunno. I just dont going around throwing shade at or saying something is 'poverty.'

To each their own I suppose.

Why are you the way you are?... such a decent guy...and such a freakin goober simp..

 

[Jackcrevol]

Why are you the way you are?... such a decent guy...and such a freakin goober simp..

In honor of Ulysees...

where'd mah thread go???

 

[drylo]

It's BEEN corporate. It's just that the corporations and universities were raking in the $$$ via price-fixing at the students' expense, in the name of 'amateurism". It needs to be rectified. It'll probably get kind of messy while the market finds its equilibrium, but I think it's a mess we need to endure instead of the pining for the days of old when it was corporate at the expense of the players.

“at the expense of the players”… you’re losing me…

Teddy Lehman (7-year NFL vet) says it better than I could in this video (talking about Reggie Bush suing the NCAA and USC) — watch from 1:55:40-1:58:20 and from 2:00:20-2:01:10. [NSFW]

Edited to clarify that I don’t endorse all of what is said in the linked video (language particularly), but I share their general sentiments as I understood them.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Not disputing that McCoy is a smart player, but how does him reaching across the line to touch the wr negate penalty on Pearce being in the neutral zone?

It didn't negate the offsides..but it immediately killed the play...no free play bomb for them because as soon as he touched him the play was whistled dead..

See....it was brilliant.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

It wasn’t a slight at poor people, it was a slight at the Gators. Quit making something from nothing.

He is a blue sockpuppet to the core.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I merely responded to your point. I kept it concise. I even posted in the passive tense so as not to accuse any individual. I'm not on your back.

Switch to decaf.

Okeydokey...if you say so.

 

[kemotoe]

I used to think Florida had the worst fans. UGA has quickly overtaken them.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

How i imagine @Ulysees E. McGill is when he’s replying on here

Lololol...

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

In honor of Ulysees...

where'd mah thread go???View attachment 681256

About right..

 

[DD4ME]

All that is fair enough, but I still disagree. I’m not worried about a jinx, or about UGA’s offense at the talent/schematic level. Carson Beck may have a ceiling, but I’ve seen enough from him and Bobo (and Smart) to be past those questions. As someone else said a few pages up, if Jake Fromm can get to a national championship game, Beck is good enough.

We’ll get a good glimpse of our team on Saturday, but I don’t feel the weight the season like I am used to feeling in big games. It’s a very NFL feeling.

Don’t get me wrong: I understand why people like a larger playoff. But I disagree about it making things harder for teams like UGA and Bama. Top teams will make an 12-team field every year. Last year, one loss kept UGA out. This year, UGA has at least one mulligan and probably two. It helps my team, but hurts the sport (I think).

The champions won't change, but now more teams get more opportunity for excitement. That is a good thing imo. It got pretty lame watching Saban and UGA or Clemson flip a coin.

Any program with a good collective can now plug holes and make a run. Any poorly run program can lose recruits and give their guys fresh opportunities.

All this stuff if we value the athlete is better.

 

[jave36]

Tennessee is but do you like the conferences now, kids opting out after 4 games, and ticket prices?

The "soul" of college football is gone. It's gone corporate

No, the entire sport is as good as its been in a long time. There is better parity now that there has been in decades. Multiple great games every week. No idea who is going to win it all this year. It's amazing. You isolate a couple negatives and act like they offset the mountain of positives.

 

[DD4ME]

No, the entire sport is as good as its been in a long time. There is better parity now that there has been in decades. Multiple great games every week. No idea who is going to win it all this year. It's amazing. You isolate a couple negatives and act like they offset the mountain of positives.

Truth

 

[KB5252]

The new soccer stadium in Warsaw is getting horrible reviews, nobody likes the architecture and layout.......... Apparently no matter where your seats are you're sitting behind a Pole!



I'll see myself out!

 

[DD4ME]

Tennessee is but do you like the conferences now, kids opting out after 4 games, and ticket prices?

The "soul" of college football is gone. It's gone corporate

Players (employees) are empowered that is the opposite of corporate. Ticket prices are market (fans). You can easily go get a UNC ticket right now cause they suck.

 

[Jimmy Football]

No, the entire sport is as good as its been in a long time. There is better parity now that there has been in decades. Multiple great games every week. No idea who is going to win it all this year. It's amazing. You isolate a couple negatives and act like they offset the mountain of positives.

Honestly, I think there’s truth in both of your points.

 

[Wickman]

Our new turf sure is getting some rain

 

[lawgator1]

I used to think Florida had the worst fans. UGA has quickly overtaken them.

The obnoxiousness of college football fans is inversely related to their team's failure.

 

[Orange_Crush]

“at the expense of the players”… you’re losing me…

Teddy Lehman (7-year NFL vet) says it better than I could in this video (talking about Reggie Bush suing the NCAA and USC) — watch from 1:55:40-1:58:20 and from 2:00:20-2:01:10. [NSFW]

You mean where he prefaced it with not being a lawyer, or knowing whether Reggie has a case (i.e. right to the lawsuit), and admits to building his opinion on whether Bush's actions will have a severely negative effect on the NCAA?

To answer his "I'm not a lawyer" comment, the state and federal courts--all the way up to the SCOTUS--have literally taken the stance that the old way was illegal based on Antitrust law, and has been business at the expense of the student athletes. The NCAA has literally been a collection of University Presidents illegally conspiring to set player salaries to zero while they sell television rights to the product for massive profits. I'm not sure how referencing that discussion chanhes that.

Not sure how 6-8 minutes of two boneheads calling Reggie Bush names changes that fact.

I have to say that the irony in that pod was like quicksand. The entire logic is: "Reggie Bush is SO DAMN SELFISH for doing this! Doesn't he know how this may effect that thing I selfishly love?! I'm not concerned with whether the system he played in was legal/ethical. I'm just worried about how it affects how I watch football."

That podcast calling Reggie a "piece of ****", the US Court system a "piece of ****", and I guess our fair business antitrust laws a "piece of ****"... Giving them the voice to argue your point is probably a huge mistake. (Direct quote: "I don't care about the law of the land...")

 

[engineerVOL]

Tennessee is but do you like the conferences now, kids opting out after 4 games, and ticket prices?

The "soul" of college football is gone. It's gone corporate

This would not be fun if we sucked and Dooley was running kids off, for example.

I shudder at that thought

Just keep winning.

 

[Jack Burton]

I won’t like any of your posts, that’s not how we do things.