Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[TN-POSSUM]

Greed will wreck college football. All the conference realignments and these "red shirt transfers" coming out are just a little more of the iceberg showing. ESPN/Disney, 10 million per year coaches, and NIL will continue to deteriorate what was the greatest sports organization of all time...... college football.

 

[DD4ME]

Doesn’t the UGA/ Bama game feel low-stakes? I mean, fans are on edge and going crazy, but this game doesn’t feel like it really impacts the rest of the season. A 12-team playoff gives everybody one loss to play with—and probably gives these two teams two losses to burn.

Not sure I like this playoff thing.

Nah. I totally disagree and love the playoff. More teams and more battles means more chaos. You and Bama can no longer just win one important game to win it all.

I also think this game has huge stakes for your two fanbases. More so for UGA imo due to schedule and expectations. Y'all's game is going to have one fan base questioning their identity. UGA and Bama fans have been on autopilot for 5-10 years sweating almost none of your regular season matchups. This is the one where doubts likely creep in.

UGA:
Is Kirby jinxed against Bama?
Is our offense good enough?
Where has our skill players recruiting gone?
Should we fire Bobo?

Bama:
Is DeBoer the guy?
Will his scheme work?
what is up with our OL recruiting?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Greed will wreck college football. All the conference realignments and these "red shirt transfers" coming out are just a little more of the iceberg showing. ESPN/Disney, 10 million per year coaches, and NIL will continue to deteriorate what was the greatest sports organization of all time...... college football.

I wonder if things will change when it comes to NIL. I'm guessing a lot of NIL deals are front loaded. If a guy has current money at stake, I wonder if this stuff happens. If you cut off their money stream when they pull this stuff they have something to lose. This makes me think Danny foresaw things like this and that's why he's championing PFP.

 

[butchna]

That's because Tennessee had a bad coach in most of those years. Dooley, Jones and Pruitt.

I look towards the future not dwell on the past.

I’m with you, but Heupel is 1-2 against them and that was Mullen’s lame duck squad and the two that Napier vomited out.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Doesn’t the UGA/ Bama game feel low-stakes? I mean, fans are on edge and going crazy, but this game doesn’t feel like it really impacts the rest of the season. A 12-team playoff gives everybody one loss to play with—and probably gives these two teams two losses to burn.

Not sure I like this playoff thing.

I love it...I've ALWAYS hated the way College Football determines champions. I was a NFL Steelers fan as kid in the 70s before I ever knew anything about college football, so when I did become a Tennessee fan at 16, it was the thing I HATED about college football...I have always thought it was completely stupid.

 

[SpringBokVol]

The Nico vs Arch and UT vs Texas will be the entire focus very soon.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Oklahoma seems to be a bunch of crybabies

Wait ‘til Texas has a rough season.

 

[therickbol]

Lol. So a pattern seems to be emerging. Some transfer guys are mercenaries.

Dabo like

I get the outrage. And I get the term mercenary being thrown out. And there are absolutely players that are bad apples. I am curious though to see how many of these situations are coaches/NIL straight up being dishonest with recruits during recruiting then failing to come thru with what was promised. There is TONS of unethical behavior going on with some of these coaches/NIL. And when that is the case I am not going to put too much blame on the players for going to extreme measures. And hopefully it sheds light and provides more transparecy in the future of the bad actors in the game. It is not really unlike being offered a job with a certain salary and then finding your paycheck is blank or is shorter by mulitple zeros at the end. You telling me you would keep showing up to work every day? Or would you call them out for it and look for recourse?

 

[jordan4vols]

Love me some Josh Dobbs.

 

[DD4ME]

Greed will wreck college football. All the conference realignments and these "red shirt transfers" coming out are just a little more of the iceberg showing. ESPN/Disney, 10 million per year coaches, and NIL will continue to deteriorate what was the greatest sports organization of all time...... college football.

Man kids are earning theirs and protecting themselves. It is long overdue. Does it need some rails? Sure. Should that be the NCAA - hell naw. Get some better contract law in these NIL's and all this gets better. This forces coaches to run good programs. If you don't bye.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Then talk about previous teams, against previous teams, is worth less than nothing. It has MUCH LESS to do with the conversation than expectations of THIS UT team against THIS UF team. Yet the fear-posts keep popping up every time UF is mentioned.

I would agree at least that that talk is worthless.

Show me a fear post I've made about Florida...I said "until we do it, it is just talk".

I said we should beat them..so get off my back.

 

[DD4ME]

I get the outrage. And I get the term mercenary being thrown out. And there are absolutely players that are bad apples. I am curious though to see how many of these situations are coaches/NIL straight up being dishonest with recruits during recruiting then failing to come thru with what was promised. There is TONS of unethical behavior going on with some of these coaches/NIL. And when that is the case I am not going to put too much blame on the players for going to extreme measures. And hopefully it sheds light and provides more transparecy in the future of the bad actors in the game. It is not really unlike being offered a job with a certain salary and then finding your paycheck is blank or is shorter by mulitple zeros at the end. You telling me you would keep showing up to work every day? Or would you call them out for it and look for recourse?

Could be, but so far dudes opting out mid season have mostly been repeat transfers hoping for their golden ticket.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

One of the “Reasons Heupel will never win at an elite level” when he was hired was that “His offense can’t win time of possession!” Top notch analysis from our usuals. Along with “Doesn’t utilize the running game and TE position.” Throw in the “Can’t field a representative defense with this pace.” for the capper.

It blows my kind how much clock we can run...when we want to.

Ignorant fools should keep their mouth shut, and quit talking about something they don't know anything about.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I have always wondered how the CFP committee would treat a hypothetical undefeated Army or Navy team going into that game. The Army-Navy game takes place exactly one week before the CFP first round games take place.

I would personally love to see it. I think the tv ratings would LOVE it.

I hope it happens this year…both teams are good. Whichever one is undefeated going into their matchup, I hope the other lets them win to get that spot lol

The week rest can be both good and bad…good cause you’re still in game shape, but bad obviously cause the other team is fresh.

 

[SmokinBob]

Shut up. We won with a great strategy.

I think he’s being facetious

 

[TN-POSSUM]

And that’s not a slight to dog ****?

A poverty program is just that — a program that has nothing. A poverty team, I guess, would be a team that has nothing. I called Ole Miss a poverty program a few pages back… never even played in an SEC championship game — in exclusive company with Vandy, UK and Texas A&M. Have a black bear as a mascot now because… why not, I guess? A football program most famous for its fans partying outside of the stadium (“we might lose the game, but we never lost a tailgate”… ). All they have is a few claimed national titles from 60+ years ago in seasons where they finished ranked behind Minnesota. And now they’re painting their end zones with a recruiting slogan from social media, like a program with no worthwhile tradition would do. That’s what it means to be a poverty program.

 

[butchna]

Lol. So a pattern seems to be emerging. Some transfer guys are mercenaries.

Dabo like

Coaches like Prime will bite. Legit program builders will steer clear imo.

 

[DD4ME]

Don't make a Miss St.ake

 

[Vfl2407]

Doesn’t the UGA/ Bama game feel low-stakes? I mean, fans are on edge and going crazy, but this game doesn’t feel like it really impacts the rest of the season. A 12-team playoff gives everybody one loss to play with—and probably gives these two teams two losses to burn.

Not sure I like this playoff thing.

I understand. But it’s great for the Vols. We can get in most years with 2 losses. I like that.

 

[SmokinBob]

Maybe. To add to your point, is having too much of a break a hindrance? You know the SEC championship game would be a battle. What if we were to lose a major contributor? It's an interesting question to ponder.

I thought about that - and I think it is true in baseball or basketball but when I think about bowl games we’ve played in, that break actually seems to help. ‍

 

[butchna]

What a punishment!

 

[triadvolfan]

Are all of those injuries from our game, or were some preexisting?

I was responding to their fans wishing they hadn't joined the SEC. That said, Saturday there were 1 or 2 offensive drives for OK where it seemed like they were getting an injury every play. They should have punted just to stay healthy.

I'm not sure how many new longer-term injuries they compiled as they weren't totally healthy before they played us.

 

[butchna]

It blows my kind how much clock we can run...when we want to.

Ignorant fools should keep their mouth shut, and quit talking about something they don't know anything about.

It’s glorious! “Real football!”

 

[Jackcrevol]

Let him perceive Florida as he wishes. I choose to believe they're a poverty program. I don't care whether they are or not. Any disparaging remarks toward the Gators should be celebrated.

And that’s not a slight to dog ****?

A poverty program is just that — a program that has nothing. A poverty team, I guess, would be a team that has nothing. I called Ole Miss a poverty program a few pages back… never even played in an SEC championship game — in exclusive company with Vandy, UK and Texas A&M. Have a black bear as a mascot now because… why not, I guess? A football program most famous for its fans partying outside of the stadium (“we might lose the game, but we never lost a tailgate”… ). All they have is a few claimed national titles from 60+ years ago in seasons where they finished ranked behind Minnesota. And now they’re painting their end zones with a recruiting slogan from social media, like a program with no worthwhile tradition would do. That’s what it means to be a poverty program.

I dunno. I just dont going around throwing shade at or saying something is 'poverty.'

To each their own I suppose.

 

[Vfl2407]

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