Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Adam Sandler]

So basically we hope that Texas vs Texas A&M winner also wins out and LSU wins out and then we would win out and we are no worse then a 6 seed

Ideally those teams all eat each other alive.

The only thing I’m confident in is:
LSU needs to beat Bama
Uga needs to beat Ole Miss
Texas needs to beat TAMU

If that could happen and LSU could lose again also, that would all but gaurantee us a playoff birth as one of only 3 sec teams with 2 or less losses, assuming we take care of business aside from a loss in Athens.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

They rank the best current teams, not the best resumes. I don't agree it should be that way, but that's what they've made abundantly clear.

How do you know who the best current teams are without their resumes? We should just take the preseason poll and seed the playoffs, just skip the regular season altogether?

 

[jave36]

How do you know who the best current teams are without their resumes? We should just take the preseason poll and seed the playoffs, just skip the regular season altogether?

Resume is a major input, but it's not the only input. We all knew fsu wasn't a top 4 team without their qb. It's not that hard. I think the resume should be all they rank, but it's obvious that fsu wasn't a top 4 team anymore despite the top 4 resume.

It's not a binary. You don't have to use only resume or don't use resume at all. They've chosen to use it as an input, but not the only factor.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Resume is a major input, but it's not the only input. We all knew fsu wasn't a top 4 team without their qb. It's not that hard. I think the resume should be all they rank, but it's obvious that fsu wasn't a top 4 team anymore despite the top 4 resume.

It's hard to believe you are defending alabama being ranked ahead of us with the same record and a loss head to head. . .

 

[Orange.]

I'd like to see the evidence of that...sounds fishy, but possible. If that is truly what happened then they need to lose their jobs....but I find it hard to believe.

I concede that I don't know. That's why I said "an alleged witness" and referred to a single news story. None of us know the full story.

There are a lot of police officers who engage in illegal and sadistic behavior imo. But there are so very many police officers that these bag eggs are still a small minority. And there are many truly good cops who do a great job with good motives and for the public good. Both things are true imo. It's not fair that the good ones have to be dishonored by association on account of the bad ones, and it's not fair that the public has to endure the bad ones. I am encouraged and happy to hear what you report about police officers you know.

 

[DD4ME]

A scrappy Indiana team would not be my first choice, but i ain't scared.

 

[JT3]

I disagree. Especially if that freshman qb had shown he was incompetent like the fsu qb.

We can agree to disagree but a Bama team who is the undefeated conference champion is getting in with me as the starting QB

 

[UpstateVol613]

Pretty damning.

 

[Jackcrevol]

A scrappy Indiana team would not be my first choice, but i ain't scared.

think it's a joke that alabama is one spot behind us

 

[DD4ME]

Beck is playing like true ass lately

 

[jave36]

It's hard to believe you are defending alabama being ranked ahead of us with the same record and a loss head to head. . .

I'm not defending, I'm trying to explain a really simple idea that nobody seems to be grasping.

The. Committee. Cares. If. Your. Starting. QB. Gets. Injured.

I just don't see how you all can't understand that, so I keep trying to explain it in different ways. The committee ranks which teams are currently the best in their opinion, not the ones who have the best resume. Yes under normal circumstances resume would be the determining factor, but when a team loses a starting QB, they're going to knock that team down even if they have the best resume. None of you are presenting arguments as to why they shouldn't do it that way (I would be agreeing with you if you did), you're all just continuing to say which resume is better and why.

 

[jave36]

We can agree to disagree but a Bama team who is the undefeated conference champion is getting in with me as the starting QB

I thought we were talking about 22, not a hypothetical undefeated conference champion.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

I'm not defending, I'm trying to explain a really simple idea that nobody seems to be grasping.

The. Committee. Cares. If. Your. Starting. QB. Gets. Injured.

I just don't see how you all can't understand that, so I keep trying to explain it in different ways. The committee ranks which teams are currently the best in their opinion, not the ones who have the best resume. Yes under normal circumstances resume would be the determining factor, but when a team loses a starting QB, they're going to knock that team down even if they have the best resume. None of you are presenting arguments as to why they shouldn't do it that way (I would be agreeing with you if you did), you're all just continuing to say which resume is better and why.

We. Kept. Winning. With. Milton.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Throw to Kitselman across the body, was Nicos best.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Enki_Amenra]

 

[Orange.]

The "bad loss" idea was a Saban invention and propaganda campaign. The media took it up and had everyone in the country repeating it. But the committee had published official criteria and that was not one of them. Just like the player injury was not one of them. A lot of people thought TCU was not the 4th best team in the country. But in that case, the committee recurred to the idea of "an undefeated conference champion." That is how the committee caused the stink in '23 when it reversed one of their major talking points from '22 in the FSU case. Injured player has never before been an official criterion. It was ad hoc.

This year for the first time, the injured player is part of the official criteria.

But it's not possible for the committee now to claim they are choosing the 12 best teams when they have agreed beforehand to put a conference champion (however low they are ranked) in as the 4 seed and the highest ranked G5 in the top 12 (however low they are ranked). I would prefer that they rank them all realistically and just put #21 or whatever in at the 12 spot to corrupting the rankings by advancing BYU, for example, to 4 when no one believes it. It's really going to look bad either way.

 

[jave36]

We. Kept. Winning. With. Milton.

LOL we had one game against Vandy after that. You can't possibly think the committee should have believed that proved we were every bit as good as we were with Hooker right?

And we scored 1 td in garbage time against usc after hooker went down.

I don't agree the committee should use anything but resume, but given that they've said that's what they do, they should be expected to drop teams who lose their starting QB.

 

[MattR11]

 

[UTSuave’]

 

[Jimmy Football]

Well, at least they’re not bitter.

 

[Orange.]

Saban was even suggesting and getting media parrots to follow him in saying (in the case of ranking Bama above UT in '22) that teams should be ranked according to how the gambling industry would set odds in matchups. But it's noteworthy that Tennessee beat Alabama in '22 when the odds favored Bama. And this year, Bama's biggest selling point is having beaten Georgia when the oddmakers favored Georgia. Should we credit Georgia with beating Bama this year because Las Vegas predicted it, like Nicki said is only fair way?

 

[Leeleesteeth]

Ideally those teams all eat each other alive.

The only thing I’m confident in is:
LSU needs to beat Bama
Uga needs to beat Ole Miss
Texas needs to beat TAMU

If that could happen and LSU could lose again also, that would all but gaurantee us a playoff birth as one of only 3 sec teams with 2 or less losses, assuming we take care of business aside from a loss in Athens.

OR, just beat UGA and tell them all to go screw themselves.

 

[VolsnCards5]

UK is a poverty program

 

[Jackcrevol]

UK is a poverty program

agreed.