Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[Jackcrevol]

Damn Knoxville for having low cost of living. All fans decided to stay in one spot.

Some of us need to take one for the team and move to different states so we can have that national following.

COME ON GUYS DO YOUR PART AND MOVE

Send em to Maryville.

City of 30K with infrastructure for 100.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Damn Knoxville for having low cost of living. All fans decided to stay in one spot.

Some of us need to take one for the team and move to different states so we can have that national following.

COME ON GUYS DO YOUR PART AND MOVE

There are tons of UT fans all over the world. . .

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Big 10 is going to get 3 in just bank on that. Oregon, Penn State and Ohio State...Indiana would have to either have 1 loss (in Big 10 title game) OR be undefeated to get in.

SEC is going to get at least 3 teams in as well, unless something crazy happens with upsets they'll likely have 4 or 5.

Big 12 is probably only putting in 1, BYU losing to Kansas forced them to need to win the championship to get in.

ACC is 1 or 2, I don't think SMU gets in with 2 losses unless they're the champion. Miami and Clemson got the best shot...Clemson is out if they have 3 losses though

The "highest rated Group of 5" champion is where it gets real muddy. Army and Boise State both have a chance to get there, Boise State is being rewarded a lot for their close loss to Oregon. But if Army beats ND and then Tulane in their title game is that enough for them to leap frog a 1 loss Boise State and/or will both be given a spot?


We're 11th but "first team out" because of that Group of 5 automatic bid.

This week the wins that help us the most.

(very possible to happen)
Army beats Notre Dame
Arizona State beats BYU
Ohio State beats Indiana (blowout fashion)

(would be upsets but would help majorly)
Oklahoma upsets Bama
Kentucky upsets Texas
Florida upsets Ole Miss

 

[lilesrt]

71-0 Kent State
69-3 UTC

Anyone of substance.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Send a strongly worded email to Barnes

I only send fahring emails. Are you wanting him fahred?

 

[BigSteve09]

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*I do think it's money based, but leaving the VOL fanbase out of anything is a huge mistake. Our games are usually in the top 5-10 of games watched weekly and our fan base travels everywhere.

 

[engineerVOL]

Novel idea, why pre-rank the playoffs at all. Wait until the games are over.

 

[Devo182]

Gotta disagree.

CFB > NBA > CBB > NFL for me

Some people don't like watching the greatest athletes in the world

Guess the same folks love high school and middle school sports. They're so much more "pure" after all. Hell, they're probably at the intramural UT games all week...

 

[Devo182]

Novel idea, why pre-rank the playoffs at all. Wait until the games are over.

Wouldn't that decrease any accountability?

Instead of knowing they have to answer questions week after week, they could just anonymously release the final poll and go back to their beach house.

 

[Midas]

Tennessee is not a huge draw nationwide like Alabama and Texas are. We have a very loyal and rabid fanbase that spends ridiculous time and money but that doesn't translate outside the South really. Teams like Michigan, Ohio St, Penn State, Oregon, USCsr, have big followings throughout the country. That includes the South because half of their population has moved here. That translates into tv ratings.
Even back in '98 the there were tv people who were unhappy that Tennessee was in the BCS championship game because they thought interest in the game would be less aka tv ratings. They would have much prefered FSU vs OSU. And the money is far bigger now,

We were #6 in Nielsen Ratings last year and it wasn’t even a good year. We were over Oregon, Penn State, Texas and Notre Dame. We get viewers.

 

[TrippieRedd]

This is how the playoffs SHOULD be. Make being in the “Top 25” important, give it some significance. Give every top team a chance to play for the championship.


GIVE SOME MEANING TO THE TOP 25 because right now it needs to be called “Top 8” because the other 17 teams don’t matter.

 

[BigSteve09]

Novel idea, why pre-rank the playoffs at all. Wait until the games are over.

I agree

all of the solutions that you would think would be obvious are cast aside.

 

[Devo182]

I think a lot of people on here are taking the CFP at face value. Use logic and reason to pick the best teams to play for a national title. It should be easy. It should be simple. It is very easy to get locked in that argument. Especially if you love the sport and want to talk about the things that actually matter.

Unfortunately, the committee does not care about results, they do not care about ranking the best teams.

They are putting a TV product together. The same way that you would build a mini-series or movie trilogy that would be aired nationally.

They are not beholden to what happens on the field. They are analyzing spreadsheets and reports that have laid out for them what the most successful series of games would be for them to maximize revenue today, and to help in future media negotiations. That is it.

They are working backwards to find ways to slot the most desirable teams in the most advantageous spots, to produce the biggest numbers. The CFP is a TV product. The rankings show is a TV product.

You can tell that they don't give a crap because they have a few mouth pieces out there that float their BS. As others have pointed out, Dinich seems to have an in to soft release the rankings every week. Auerbach is the least skillful at veiling that she is a mouthpiece, but may be one of the loudest.

Floating things like this out there:


Attempting to normalize "taking head to head out of it." That is insight into what the committee is putting in front of media members to permeate the CFP public.

The rest get caught up in an idea that was floated out there, that really means nothing. "Best vs Most Deserving." It's a load of crap. It means nothing. They made that argument up to have talking points for TV and keep the majority of fans busy arguing about hypotheticals and pointing to data and ideas that mean absolutely nothing to the committee.

This is a TV product.

They have their A-List programs that people will always tune in for. They have sexy teams that are lightning rods. They have a pool of others to choose from. They'll continue mathing out what will be best for the executives at the very top, and tell everyone else to figure it out. Like they always do.

Based on what?

The committee members are unlike AP members, they aren't media folks.

They aren't with any media companies.

There's no tie-in to the end TV product.

Otherwise Indiana, Boise, BYU, Ole Miss, SMU would be non-existent. Hell, you'd have us, TAMU, Clemson much higher if ratings mattered.

 

[Midas]

Tennessee is not a huge draw nationwide like Alabama and Texas are. We have a very loyal and rabid fanbase that spends ridiculous time and money but that doesn't translate outside the South really. Teams like Michigan, Ohio St, Penn State, Oregon, USCsr, have big followings throughout the country. That includes the South because half of their population has moved here. That translates into tv ratings.
Even back in '98 the there were tv people who were unhappy that Tennessee was in the BCS championship game because they thought interest in the game would be less aka tv ratings. They would have much prefered FSU vs OSU. And the money is far bigger now,

We rated higher than Texas on Nielsen ratings last year though. But the conversation is more about us and other “bubble” SEC teams vs the BIG 10 people they got up there. The only one ranked higher than us that had a higher Nielsen Rating last year was OSU. We were rated higher than Penn State and Oregon and for damn sure over Indiana and this was for nationwide viewership.

 

[BigSteve09]

Based on what?

The committee members are unlike AP members, they aren't media folks.

They aren't with any media companies.

There's no tie-in to the end TV product.

Otherwise Indiana, Boise, BYU, Ole Miss, SMU would be non-existent. Hell, you'd have us, TAMU, Clemson much higher if ratings mattered.

The CFP isn't carried on major networks? The CFP rankings show isn't carried on a major network?

 

[Devo182]

BCS computer rankings have us unchanged from last week - ranked 13th.

Fwiw losing at UGA probably didn't kill us because they're ranked #5.

 

[Adam Sandler]

Lol at the 16 NBA teams that passed on Dalton.

Glitch sighting! Or is that Ulysses?

 

[Devo182]

The CFP isn't carried on major networks? The CFP rankings show isn't carried on a major network?

The committee members are not with networks. They are the voters that decide.

Unlike some AP members. Who have us ranked higher.

If this was about TV $$$ then yes we'd be ranked much higher I agree. And the smaller schools would be nowhere to be seen. Sure.

 

[BigSteve09]

BCS computer rankings have us unchanged from last week - ranked 13th.

Fwiw losing at UGA probably didn't kill us because they're ranked #5.

interesting, where did you get those?

I was working off of:

 

[TrippieRedd]

Not sure why that's an "lol" it's pretty sad that a kid is already a POS human.

He and his whole family got doxxed actually.

So they got their revenge!

 

[marksboy7]

Novel idea, why pre-rank the playoffs at all. Wait until the games are over.

Because the drama creates revenue

 

[Adam Sandler]

So let’s say penn st,ole miss,notre dame win and Ohio st loses…how will that make you all feel?

I don’t care what happens as long as we make the playoffs. If we don’t, everything brought to my attention will likely piss me off.

 

[Adam Sandler]

That is ironic…i didn’t even think about it like that

Has there been a single instance of a team losing and not dropping this whole year? It’s not like they lost to undefeated Oregon. It’s scar. Laughable.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

 

[Ashevolle]

Some people don't like watching the greatest athletes in the world

Guess the same folks love high school and middle school sports. They're so much more "pure" after all. Hell, they're probably at the intramural UT games all week...

I don't have room to talk given I love the NBA but not the NFL so much. Kinda just lost interest in it around 7 years ago and never renewed an interest. Now that I think about it, that's about how long the Panthers have been roaming in the wilderness so......