Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[mrMet]

17 days until it’s Football Time in Tennessee

 

[volbeast33]

Wonder if we would go after Hank Poteat for DB coach is Martinez struggles

What do we consider struggling? i posted something yesterday that showed we were 4th in the SEC in yards per attempted pass, 4th in the SEC in defensive pass rating, tied for 3rd in the SEC in Ints. Our defense was also 3rd in the SEC in points allowed per game.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I know I will but his group needs to show improvement
No excuse this year especially with the possibility of having the best dline in football to help his guys

Show me improvement and I’ll stop complaining

Maybe, just maybe you should try not complaining until something negative actually happens?

Unless you’re shooting for membership in the Legion of the Miserable. If so, please let us know now.

You’re only like is from a miserable poster. That alone should give you pause.

 

[Orange_Crush]

What do we consider struggling? i posted something yesterday that showed we were 4th in the SEC in yards per attempted pass, 4th in the SEC in defensive pass rating, tied for 3rd in the SEC in Ints. Our defense was also 3rd in the SEC in points allowed per game.

BVS demands that we pick a coach to obsess over.

 

[volbeast33]

I dont know, but wouldnt safety - the QB of the backfield. Require someone to know ins and outs of the playbook? Ergo, someone who take the 2D and apply it, spatially would excel in that spot?

Now, to me when time comes where more athletic dudes catch up. You gotta play them too. It cant be Brooks playing 90 minutes or whateves.

Brandon Turnage was one of the most athletic players that we have had…… He was always lost and out of position. It is why he failed here and also failed at Alabama. If this guy wins the job then we have to trust that no one was able to outperform him.

 

[volbeast33]

BVS demands that we pick a coach to obsess over.

That’s my problem…. My BVS is gone…. National Champions here we come.

 

[Garren04]

Boo vs C Harrison in a real battle. Brooks sits comfortably I think now.

 

[Adam2014]

Boo hoo

 

[Wickman]

Boo vs C Harrison in a real battle. Brooks sits comfortably I think now.

Is Brooks that good or are we that bad?

 

[SoullessGinger32_]

Ole Miss has split the past 4 meetings with LSU.
They won last year. LSU is taking a step back this season perhaps while Ole Miss is supposed to be better.

They’ll be favored to win against LSU.

LSU has a top 5 offensive line with a very talented QB and DEFENSE. No step back. They've recruited better than Ole Miss as well. I have LSU

 

[Enki_Amenra]

Lol. Just there for work for 3 days. Definitely not planning on staying there.

You should stop in at Lebanon Levi's place. . .

 

[Wickman]

BVS demands that we pick a coach to obsess over.

Not an obsession. He doesn’t recruit at an elite level and doesn’t develop at an elite level. I think he’s fine atm. But he’s far and away the weakest (known) link on the staff. It’s not picking on him. It’s just what it is.

 

[AllThingsTN]

LSU has a top 5 offensive line with a very talented QB and DEFENSE. No step back. They've recruited better than Ole Miss as well. I have LSU

LSU was terrible on defense last year. And I think they’re going to be bad again this year. They do have a great o line tho.

 

[mrMet]

Is Brooks that good or are we that bad?

The coaches think he’s that good

 

[knoxvol52]

That’s my problem…. My BVS is gone…. National Champions here we come.

I've never had BVS, hopefully it isn't contagious.

 

[MemphisVol3]

LSU has a top 5 offensive line with a very talented QB and DEFENSE. No step back. They've recruited better than Ole Miss as well. I have LSU

Ole Miss success will likely depend on how their transfers fair. We like many other teams used the portal to complement our roster, while Ole Miss went mercenary mode (not as much Colorado) so on paper they look good, but some analysts think they’re overrated. I could see them being a playoff contender at best, or 8-4 at worse. LSU will be just as good or better than last year’s team with their OL and improved defense.

 

[mrMet]

I've never had BVS, hopefully it isn't contagious.

I did during the Butch and Pruitt years but quit when Heupel got here

 

[MemphisVol3]

The coaches think he’s that good

Wasn’t he the walk-on or at least one of them that finished the game we won against Bama, when we had a few secondary players go down.

 

[ConwayFitty]

Crazy..Reggie is 1

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Says a lot about how much football has changed that there's only one running back on this list. Pre 2000 they would have dominated

 

[UpstateVol613]

 

[MarcoVol]

LSU has a top 5 offensive line with a very talented QB and DEFENSE. No step back. They've recruited better than Ole Miss as well. I have LSU

LSU was 12/14 in the SEC scoring D, 13/14 in defensive ypg last season, 12/14 in pass ypg, 13/14 in rush ypg.

They gave up 55 to Ole Miss last season.

It would take an incredible leap forward for them to be good on defense. There prob is some talent on that side of the ball tho.

 

[Vols4us]

Cry more. This is the reason Saban stepped away too.

Sorry guys, everyone can pay for players now, and you don't get to stash great players for 3 years just because the rules won't let them leave.

Jackass

What goes around comes around, Kirb. Let's see just how good of coach you are with a more level playing field.

 

[MarcoVol]

Cry more. This is the reason Saban stepped away too.

Sorry guys, everyone can pay for players now, and you don't get to stash great players for 3 years just because the rules won't let them leave.

Jackass

To be fair Saban is also 72

 

[Jackcrevol]

Brandon Turnage was one of the most athletic players that we have had…… He was always lost and out of position. It is why he failed here and also failed at Alabama. If this guy wins the job then we have to trust that no one was able to outperform him.

While I do think what you're saying is accurate and true. athleticism CAN make up for some deficiencies.

Recruiting has been above average in last couple cycles. One reason this situation is frustrating is we fire the starting 4, then, replace with status quo - as perceived.

Other teams, imo, that recruit at higher level don't fear playing talented freshmen. To me, that's GA, FL (historically at DB), LSU, Bama.

It may be to get to that elite, elite level we will need to show consistent W/L, BUT within that give our talented guys PT. I'm not saying starting. I'm saying develop a healthy rotation like we do at LB and DT.

I see AP's point. It isn't logical to recruit these guys and have your starters play 85 minutes. Worse, play those guys 85 minutes and STILL give up a lot of points.

There has to be a nice middle ground. I believe Martinez is a decent coach. However, like other older coaches - may need a DB recruiting 'coordinator', officially.

You gotta be able to develop. But you gotta be athletic. And do both, well. Right now I give us a B in both.

 

[MarcoVol]

While I do think what you're saying is accurate and true. athleticism CAN make up for some deficiencies.

Recruiting has been above average in last couple cycles. One reason this situation is frustrating is we fire the starting 4, then, replace with status quo - as perceived.

Other teams, imo, that recruit at higher level don't fear playing talented freshmen. To me, that's GA, FL (historically at DB), LSU, Bama.

It may be to get to that elite, elite level we will need to show consistent W/L, BUT within that give our talented guys PT. I'm not saying starting. I'm saying develop a healthy rotation like we do at LB and DT.

I see AP's point. It isn't logical to recruit these guys and have your starters play 85 minutes. Worse, play those guys 85 minutes and STILL give up a lot of points.

There has to be a nice middle ground. I believe Martinez is a decent coach. However, like other older coaches - may need a DB recruiting 'coordinator', officially.

You gotta be able to develop. But you gotta be athletic. And do both, well. Right now I give us a B in both.

Good thing we ranked 22nd in the country in defensive ppg last season then.

If we’re winning games, I don’t understand why anyone cares if we play a freshman who is perceived to be talented or a 25 year old 6th year senior.

AP is just a guy with an opinion. He should talks less imo