Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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#83,077
jave36 said:
I'm torn who to pull for in the Clemson usc game
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Well if Miami loses Clemson will get SMU in the ACC title game and potentially qualify with a win either way.

So a "full chaos" for the ACC that would help us (because Miami is projecting as a top 4 seed)

Miami loses at Syracuse, 10-2 no title game
Clemson loses to South Carolina, 9-3 but beats SMU in title game and they'll be 10-2

Clemson gets automatic bid as a 9-3, obviously wouldn't get a top 4 seed with Big 12 champ being 10-2 though... SMU is for sure out of the playoff and Miami with 2 losses even if they did get in would be below us.

Not sure if it'd move us up from 9 or not, but Clemson would move into the 12 at that point...and you'd have to assume they'd get seeded ahead of non conference champs... so we might get moved back to the 10 and play at Notre Dame then Georgia would host Clemson...
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
2022 Vols...wouldn't have made the SEC championship game anyway. Georgia vs LSU both had better conference records so not even the same conversation playing hypotheticals.

2022 Vols sitting at 10-2 were at 7th with Bama (who we beat head to head) ahead of us...
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That’s not it. We had an identical 6-2 conference record to LSU and Bama, and we had the head-to-head tie-breaker over both. The division format kept us out of the title game (just like it did several times in the 90s). LSU went because they won head-to-head over Bama.

The SEC ranking by the SEC own rules in 2022 (excluding the division championship format) was: 1 Georgia, 2 Tennessee, 3 LSU, and 4 Bama.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Ok... So then H2H doesn't matter?
Bama has H2H over them.
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The playoffs aren't asking Bama to go play USCjr.

It's asking who is the better team, presumably against a large swath of potential future opponents.

There's no point in asking how well one team matches up vs another specific team...and on their home field, at that. And vs a team that wouldn't be in the playoffs, in such a case. I don't see how that could be an overriding factor, when it will never ever play out.
 
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Smokey123 said:
I’m sure some would, it depends on the circumstances. Texas would definitely rather beat Uga and get the bye then lose and be around 5-8. It will be harder on teams that lose the conference champ game than the teams that get a bye
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Right. The teams that lose conference championships are the only teams that don’t get a bye. Everyone except the conference title game participants get their byes the weekend of the conference title games. The conference championship winners get their bye the following weekend. The losers play straight through.
 
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Orange. said:
That’s not it. We had an identical 6-2 conference record to LSU and Bama, and we had the head-to-head tie-breaker over both. The division format kept us out of the title game (just like it did several times in the 90s). LSU went because they won head-to-head over Bama.

The SEC ranking by the SEC own rules in 2022 (excluding the division championship format) was: 1 Georgia, 2 Tennessee, 3 LSU, and 4 Bama.
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True, but in 2022 there were divisions and LSU went instead of us. So that 10-2 Tennessee team wouldn't be the same argument as these 9-3 SEC teams for the playoff was the point.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
True, but in 2022 there were divisions and LSU went instead of us. So that 10-2 Tennessee team wouldn't be the same argument as these 9-3 SEC teams for the playoff was the point.
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I read your post out of context.

Bama’s argument to be in this year is fraudulent. If it were us saying the same things in the same situation, it would be universally mocked.

The other (behind the scenes) “argument” that the playoffs need Bama is a huge lie. Let them sit out, as they deserve, and see who declines to watch. No one.
 
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Devo182 said:
The playoffs aren't asking Bama to go play USCjr.

It's asking who is the better team, presumably against a large swath of potential future opponents.

There's no point in asking how well one team matches up vs another specific team...and on their home field, at that. And vs a team that wouldn't be in the playoffs, in such a case. I don't see how that could be an overriding factor, when it will never ever play out.
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No, I was just pointing out how hypocritical it was to whine about Bama being ranked over us, then saying USCe should jump Bama.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
Why is she so hard on Bama's nuts!? She an alumni? Banging a coach, admin, booster or player? Damn, give it up Heather!

Edit: Indiana grad. Why the hell is she shilling for the Gumps so hard? If they do get in, I almost hope it comes at Indiana's expense.
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Wants that 5 star horse
 
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