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#880
#880
Jackcrevol said:
know plenty of men that take on parenting & homemaker roles. todays roles arent black and white. Plenty of women work, and men stay home. Or both work.

I will be absolutely grateful if my girls are a) healthy b) happy c) and are successful in whichever endeavor they choose.

I will encourage them to whichever end they choose, but deep down Id love to see them choose an independent career oriented path, as an earner.
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People make a variety of lifestyle choices with varying degrees of success. What you're calling black and white, I would call a tried and true template for a meaningful and full life. I think people should do what the people before them have done unless they have a good reason not to. That's just a statement on the fact that men and women are not the same in the aggregate. They value different things. They find different things meaningful, and they have different skills. In the aggregate. Which is all we can really talk about considering we are not talking about any individual in particular here. A society should have some flexibility in gender roles, obviously. What we have now is a level of freedom from gender roles that lets young adults go all the way down roads that will make their future selves miserable. And they are miserable. More depressed and anxious than ever.

I also don't accept your presupposition that home making is some second rate menial job. So I don't see encouraging girls and young women to adopt those roles as some sort of insult as it is commonly interpreted now. That last sentence is just wild to me. I'm guessing you treasure your daughter orders of magnitude more than you treasure your job, yet you would tell her to prioritize her job over her future family. I would think and hope that advice is antithetical to your own experience.

You don't get homemaker women by telling them to "Stay in the house, clean, and push out babies" or whatever disrespectful thing you said. As if that's all women are good for or something. You end up with home makers when you tell them "Hey, the most important thing in your life will be your family, and you would be well served to prioritize that over a job." Which is also true for most men, and advice I would give to my kids or any kids, either sex. It just so happens most men will fall into the role of provider, and most women will become home makers. Unless you completely denigrate one of those and act like being a State Farm adjustor in a cubicle is some shining beacon on a hill or something.
 
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#885
#885
GoodTimeVol said:
This new “NIL ruling” doesn’t really effect our collective because our contracts to the players require them to do signings, promote local businesses etc…now if there is push back from the ncaa 3rd party in which they think it’s not a “legit” NIL deal then yeah we will sue again…
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#890
#890
UTK said:
to show lack of institutional controlAt some point all these SEC schools need to work together and put Kirby Smart. UGA may have a winning team culture, but their life culture is horrendous. And honestly embarrassing to the league.
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How many arrests or deaths have to happen to demonstrate a lack of institutional control?
 
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#892
#892
Jackcrevol said:
know plenty of men that take on parenting & homemaker roles. todays roles arent black and white. Plenty of women work, and men stay home. Or both work.

I will be absolutely grateful if my girls are a) healthy b) happy c) and are successful in whichever endeavor they choose.

I will encourage them to whichever end they choose, but deep down Id love to see them choose an independent career oriented path, as an earner.
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Not to you Jack, but I was in the workforce, while helping to raise my son, do the outside and inside upkeep, transport my son back and forth to school and after school sports and extracurricular stuff for him and his friends. I loved it, then I found myself in a crappy divorce. Then I found myself with a very bitter and angry 15 year old, working 2 jobs and going to school at night for over a year to support us both, we’re more than baby makers and keeping house as you alluded to. I refuse to post to Ten Titans, it’s insulting. Thank goodness my son turned out to be a very upstanding human, father and husband.
 
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#893
#893
Orangeredblooded said:
Not to you Jack, but I was in the workforce, while helping to raise my son, do the outside and inside upkeep, transport my son back and forth to school and after school sports and extracurricular stuff for him and his friends. I loved it, then I found myself in a crappy divorce. Then I found myself with a very bitter and angry 15 year old, working 2 jobs and going to school at night for over a year to support us both, we’re more than baby makers and keeping house as you alluded to. I refuse to post to Ten Titans, it’s insulting. Thank goodness my son turned out to be a very upstanding human, father and husband.
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My points about baby making and keeping house was to make the point that if there were socially constructed roles for people, they're being broken down moreso every day. And I'm glads. People must do what they must do.

My Mom was a single parent, raised us. Worked. very independent. i have a soft spot for that.

kudos to you for being a kick ass human, parent, and raising a successful adult.
 
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#894
#894
LA took off because he had some beef with Danny White's hiring of Kim Caldwell and he kind of got up in his feelings about it when people called him on it iirc. Was weird to begin with an no reason to take off imo but no reason to stay gone either. It's just not that serious, to stay gone all year.
 
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#896
#896
Orangeredblooded said:
Not to you Jack, but I was in the workforce, while helping to raise my son, do the outside and inside upkeep, transport my son back and forth to school and after school sports and extracurricular stuff for him and his friends. I loved it, then I found myself in a crappy divorce. Then I found myself with a very bitter and angry 15 year old, working 2 jobs and going to school at night for over a year to support us both, we’re more than baby makers and keeping house as you alluded to. I refuse to post to Ten Titans, it’s insulting. Thank goodness my son turned out to be a very upstanding human, father and husband.
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You say what Ten Titans posted was insulting, but how is what you said not insulting to the homemaker who chooses that as her life, as if it’s somehow less than? Because your experience was that you wound up a single mom working two jobs, and jacks experience having a single mom is what formed your opinions, doesn’t make someone else’s experience and opinion insulting.
 
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#899
#899
OrangeMoundTNVol said:
Ehh I like Jack, now BOT is one weird dude. He follows me thread to thread and I just ignore the guy. But he’s unhinged for sure, stage 5 clinger at this point.
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I also had to ignore BOT, because he’s a never ending bag of confusion.

He just can’t follow logic or conversation at all.
It’s ridiculous how he can’t grasp anything! Haha.
Yeah he follows me too, and even @ me😂

But , Jacker is funny.
 
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#900
#900
LaagerVol said:
You say what Ten Titans posted was insulting, but how is what you said not insulting to the homemaker who chooses that as her life, as if it’s somehow less than? Because your experience was that you wound up a single mom working two jobs, and jacks experience having a single mom is what formed your opinions, doesn’t make someone else’s experience and opinion insulting.
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Good grief. How was my post insulting to a wife that chooses to be a good homemaker? I was only posting about my history, not to be derogatory to anyone else’s experiences. Oh, I was fixing to go to bed, so if you could direct your rebuttal to mid afternoon, I’d appreciate it. I’ve got my grandson’s 3rd birthday party tomorrow and I won’t be able to see it until well, evening.
 
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