Recruiting Football Talk VIII

[#Vol4Life1991]

I’m glad Oregon’s toughest game next year is @ PSU.


Smh

Quick, name their 2nd toughest

 

[NighthawkVol]

Didnt know you were here in Charlotte for the game bud. Yall could have tailgated with us. My little brother who has a nuclear engineering degree from NCSU flew in for the azzwhipping too. We had a blast. Hope the VOLS are here again soon.

What a kind (retroactive ) gesture. Would've loved that. I was with some friends and I put a post on here to gather info about were to go. Friday night, we ate at Noble Smoke BBQ, while listening to bluegrass music outside. Loved it. Saturday, we mostly walked around (and ate at) Optimist Food Hall.

It looks like a great city...would love to see more of it. If UT plays there again, I'll hold you to your offer.

 

[jave36]

Just checked on some of PFF's numbers to make sure I'm not crazy and they're seeing the same thing. Howard had 9.1 ypa against the blitz, 4.1 without it.

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8 attempts can easily be skewed by one or two really long catch and runs by the WR. Looks like they didn't blitz him much, hopefully because opposing teams could easily get home without blitzing.

 

[rockytop25]

Quick, name their 2nd toughest

Just looked at their schedule, WOW.

Oregon got an absolute cakewalk, but it won't matter in the committee's eyes at all.

 

[Vols410]

8 attempts can easily be skewed by one or two really long catch and runs by the WR. Looks like they didn't blitz him much, hopefully because opposing teams could easily get home without blitzing.

That's a fair point for the Michigan game, but I posted some stuff above that brings in player analytics across the careers of the players on the roster and the phenomena exists outside of that game. They excel in the short / quick game and they pick the blitz apart. Both their QB and WR group are built for it, and their OL is weak right now. Gotta beat 'em with 4.

Edit: The long in the game was also only 24, so nothing that would skew even the Michigan results too much.

 

[TrippieRedd]

 

[VolsnCards5]

Those aren't your normal "tourists"...you have to be pretty well off, or have well off sponsors, or save for years and years, and in absolutely insane shape to climb that thing.

From what I understand this is what happens when bad weather forces an already super narrow window that you can climb it, down to a day or two.

Everybody piles up at Basecamp and waits....and nobody wants to waste the massive amounts of money and time, including all the time they have spent training for years on other mountains in preparation for that one narrow window....so they all wait around and try to make it instead of going home.

Yea that makes sense. I did read an article last year that the mountain is just covered in trash. Obviously, when you finish with something, it makes a lot more sense to leave it than they to carry the trash back down the mountain.

They actually have groups now that don’t try to summit the mountain. They just go around picking up trash.

And it still freaks me out that if you die up there, your body just stays. Too dangerous to try to bring you down. You can be trying to summit and pass by a frozen corpse.

 

[butchna]

*great NFL coach when he had the second-best QB of all time

Lifetime losing record without.

 

[jakez4ut]

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that's hilarous for Mizzou. the do not contact tag...well, hay's in the barn for someone then.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

 

[butchna]

I think, eliminate the auto-bids and use the ranking week just before the conference championship games...place the teams how they’re ranked at the end of the final regular season week.

Conferences (especially the SEC) will never give up their championship games, but they’re superfluous and unnecessary. Only serve to be counterproductive.

 

[jakez4ut]

Conferences (especially the SEC) will never give up their championship games, but they’re superfluous and unnecessary. Only serve to be counterproductive.

fill bags with cash.

 

[A.J.]

Gronk - analyst - Beer Procuration
Brady-Director of Footwear and Pissing Off Supermodels
Saban - analyst - Ring Polishing
John Fetterman - analyst - Coaching Attire

I think his girlfriend is going to be the recruiting/hosting coordinator.

 

[SGMVols]

He is a super bust. He will end up at a mid major

 

[butchna]

fill bags with cash.

Hence why…

 

[rikberry31]

I agree that we absolutely need to get pressure but I wouldn't start with the blitz.

According to my analytics:
- Will Howard is the #9 QB in CFB against the blitz.
- OSU has the #2 WR unit on quick / short passing routes.
- The WR unit drops to #34 on deep routes.

Reading OSU boards, they lost to Michigan because the Wolverines were able to get pressure with just 4. OSU's receiver room is the best in the country, and they excel in the quick / short game. Obviously we need to get to the QB, but if we have to depend on the blitz to do that we're playing into exactly what they want.

They're missing their starting left tackle. They're missing their starting center.

We've got the #8 pass rushing EDGE unit, the #9 pass-rushing Interior DL unit, but only the #117 pass-rushing LB unit.

Pardon the essay, but I know we're going to see a TON of "why are we not blitzing more???" next Saturday. Given the strengths / weaknesses on these 2 rosters, the path to winning has to be to beat them with 4, and I really think we can.

I agree. If we start blitzing like crazy we will doing them a favor. From what I have seen Howard is game manager type with some good receivers. His weakness in my opinion is that he has too much faith in his receivers and puts the ball in harm's way quite a bit.
I think we will play cover 2 most of the time maybe quarters. Go bear and simulated pressure occasionally and as they get closer to the red zone. Their guards are not good, particularly the right guard. With the injuries they have I think we can play with a 6 or sometimes 5 man box and drop into coverage and hunt turnovers.
Blitzes need to be well timed and disguised (surprises). We won't win just bringing the house on every play.

On offense I really think we will be able to run on them. They got tore up against Michigan by inside zone. If it works like I think we won't have to have a stellar offensive game to beat them.
The more I see the more I think we will handle them quite well, we match up well. WGWTFA.

 

[DD4ME]

These OSU guys are so dismissive of us. It is actually annoying. Picking all our flaws apart in UGA game. Doing like most pundits and under crediting the impact our defense has on other teams. They act like they are already better than UGA and Bama and us.

 

[rikberry31]

I think his girlfriend is going to be the recruiting/hosting coordinator.

Well Bill is 72, I am sure she has a lot of free time.

 

[MemphisVol3]

I hope that whatever he does, that it is something new that can't just be sat on like in the UGA game.

We need to start working on and adjusting gameplans for our bigger games weeks or months before we even play those games.

Do something creative defensively that OSU has not seen us do before. It seems like a lot of teams do that to us.

Agreed McGill...I know Kirby basically has year long practice/game plan strategies specifically for our offense.

 

[KingVFL]

@KingVFL @MetalVolunteer

Question. Do you see you see tennessee working on tempo in CFP practices? Any new wrinkles, or more shovel passes?

Any word who's highest on transfer porthole board?

We liked Womack but not enough as Ole Miss.

Two other guys were working that I believe have been publicly mentioned.

Other than that not a whole lot.

 

[KingVFL]

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Nebraska imo

 

[LaagerVol]

sanders is a win. but we lost kid to oregon. every pundit has said same thing about OL recruiting since day 1. Gotta widen the net.

In the last two recruiting cycles we have signed nine studs on OL, including Heard. I don’t know what people expect? I mean, I do know what people expect, for us to sign the top 5 OL in the country every year……

 

[jakez4ut]

This is significant. UT vs UGA early allows both teams to recover from a loss and gain a higher seed. Playing later doesn’t benefit either n a 12 team playoff.

agreed, but both teams have huge games in November too. Texas comes to AThens in Nov, we go to Gainesville in Nov... so the conf made a concerted effort to space things out....and have meaningful games all year long.

UGA's schedule isn't soft. they come to Neyland, bye, Bama comes to Athens. that's about as big as it can get in the first month of the season.

that kicks of a 4 game stretch of Bama, UK, Auburn, Ole miss....3 of those at home. bye week, then UF, MSU, Texas. i have no doubt UGA will be great again next year, but between TN, Bama, Ole miss, probably a better, but not great, Auburn team on the road, the annual trip to a probably much better FL team, and Texas....

i don't know what Ole Miss will be next year, i feel like they're going to look different, roster wise, next year....but that's a tough schedule, with one major break....they only have 2 legit road games...@tn and @auburn. all the other big games are neutral or in Sanford. i think the floor for them is a solid 10 wins....

for us, there's some roster dependent factors to consider, but i think our floor is 9 again. i don't think there's anything unusual about our schedule, outside of the placement of the UGA and FL games...but @ bama and @ UF always stand out as tough outs. i think Syracuse could be a little tricky, not a bad team, but i have no idea what they will have returning etc..but coming off a 9 win season, beating Miami, i'm sure they'll view this game much like NCSU did this year.

no idea what OU will look like, you'd have to think they'll be better, but they're losing some big time dudes if memory serves. MSU replaces Arkansas as the road game to keep an eye on, but not as difficult as going to Fayetteville. im not scared of UK at all, except that it falls in between two big games, and is on the tail end of b2b road trips....so not scared of it....but aware of the situation.

then it's at Florida. in what i expect will be a very large game for both teams. UF's schedule is brutal again, so i don't know if they're going to be in position for a playoff berth, but if they are, then i would tell you Florida would be VERY good and probably a top 5 team at that point....and we're probably right next to them in the standings....either way, we're probably playing another nationally relevant game in November with Conf and national title implications. which is all one can hope for year in and year out.

December 2024 prediction on Fall 2025 schedule...i think we're 4-1 headed to October. i think we're 3-1 in October, and it comes down to the UF game to get to 10 and probably in the mix for the playoffs again. if we somehow beat UGA or Bama....then we're in the mix for ATL and top 4 seed and potential home game. but i'm not ready to go there, i'll need to see us beat UGA first, and it's been a minute since we've beaten Bama in Tuscaloosa. so those 2 games, for argument's sake, are L's.

last thing...for sos purposes, it would be nice if teams that i think we will beat, go on to have good/decent seasons...so Syaracuse, MSU, Arkansas...even UK...just don't suck out loud like NCSU and OU did for much of the year after we beat you, thanks.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Conferences (especially the SEC) will never give up their championship games, but they’re superfluous and unnecessary. Only serve to be counterproductive.

Expand the field and get checks for 4 or more first round games and CC games might lose some glamour. Especially if losses do matter gets folded in moving forward.

 

[jakez4ut]

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oh, we're in agreement. lol....good song hahaha.