Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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engineerVOL said:
I like the idea of more analysts but this just feeds into the notion that Heupel’s offensive assistants are just old buddies.
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Not just a notion. I prefer the Saban model of going out to find the best coaches in the country. But, I could see an approach of working with those people that you know.
 
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butchna said:
It’s an ANALYST. He has name recognition and may relate to recruits. Maybe he won’t be exciting…what’s the risk?
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Im not against the hire, just saying I wasn’t overly excited about it. I guess I don’t know what exactly an analyst does. If he’s in charge of helping decipher offensive schemes, then why not get someone with more of a resume and less someone the HC knows personally? Again, not hating on the hire, just not saying “wow, I can’t believe we got Landry freaking Jones to come help with the offense!”
 
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Checker_the_Shire said:
Im not against the hire, just saying I wasn’t overly excited about it. I guess I don’t know what exactly an analyst does. If he’s in charge of helping decipher offensive schemes, then why not get someone with more of a resume and less someone the HC knows personally? Again, not hating on the hire, just not saying “wow, I can’t believe we got Landry freaking Jones to come help with the offense!”
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Busy work and individual drills. Also contacting recruits. Sometimes I don’t even know all the names from year to year. How many knew Coach Chop before last year? I had to look him up on UTSports three years ago when I kept seeing recruits reference him in their Tweets.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
And who's fault is that? Nico is his dude. He's had him here for two years. Look, I don't know what's wrong with the offense. It's a shell of its former self. Just like the defense, it's very simplistic. Very little motion. Very little creativity. Very little deception. It seems to be even less than last year with Milton. I've said it multiple times, I'm not one of those that believe the offense left with Golesh. Something is up. I don't know why it's morphed into what it is.
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I think it morphed out of necessity. We ran wide open offense as much as we could against creampuffs scoring 60 points per game. When we got into SEC play our Oline and WRs got exposed...our starting Tackles got manhandled and run around all game. Coach got pizzed and put in the backups if you remember and we went sack, sack, sack on 3 consecutive downs (Nico might have managed to throw the ball away on 2nd down? Same result tho in Nico on his back) The WRs like Nimrod were dropping wide open TDs and when they didnt Nico overthrew them. The Arkansas game was UGLY. CJH realized he didnt have the personnel necessary to run the Spread much aggressively so he adapted. Used the Spread formation still to keep defenses stretched thin, but ran the ball more than we ever have because this Oline was much better at run blocking than pass blocking...and the WRs sucked all year if we are being honest. This was the least exciting offense this year since CJH has been here. It was probably his best coaching job though and showed me that he is able to adapt to his personnel and try to mask weaknesses, rather than being too proud and still trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. Now lets see what Coach does about it. Lets see what the Oline and WRs look like in 2025. Theres gonna be growing pains because we will be young at WR and at spots on the Oline (Satterwhite, Sanders) but if the Oline and WRs arent better next year CJH is gonna have to make a move with Pope and maybe Ellarbee too. 2026 should mean a playoff run and shot at winning it all. Everything that happens between here and there will affect that run. I am excited to see how we attack that opportunity. GO VOLS
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I think it morphed out of necessity. We ran wide open offense as much as we could against creampuffs scoring 60 points per game. When we got into SEC play our Oline and WRs got exposed...our starting Tackles got manhandled and run around all game. Coach got pizzed and put in the backups if you remember and we went sack, sack, sack on 3 consecutive downs (Nico might have managed to throw the ball away on 2nd down? Same result tho in Nico on his back) The WRs like Nimrod were dropping wide open TDs and when they didnt Nico overthrew them. The Arkansas game was UGLY. CJH realized he didnt have the personnel necessary to run the Spread much aggressively so he adapted. Used the Spread formation still to keep defenses stretched thin, but ran the ball more than we ever have because this Oline was much better at run blocking than pass blocking...and the WRs sucked all year if we are being honest. This was the least exciting offense this year since CJH has been here. It was probably his best coaching job though and showed me that he is able to adapt to his personnel and try to mask weaknesses, rather than being too proud and still trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. Now lets see what Coach does about it. Lets see what the Oline and WRs look like in 2025. Theres gonna be growing pains because we will be young at WR and at spots on the Oline (Satterwhite, Sanders) but if the Oline and WRs arent better next year CJH is gonna have to make a move with Pope and maybe Ellarbee too. 2026 should mean a playoff run and shot at winning it all. Everything that happens between here and there will affect that run. I am excited to see how we attack that opportunity. GO VOLS
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I agree but the offensive scheme gave no help. Little to no motion. Very little ingenuity. Made it easy on the defense.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
And who's fault is that? Nico is his dude. He's had him here for two years. Look, I don't know what's wrong with the offense. It's a shell of its former self. Just like the defense, it's very simplistic. Very little motion. Very little creativity. Very little deception. It seems to be even less than last year with Milton. I've said it multiple times, I'm not one of those that believe the offense left with Golesh. Something is up. I don't know why it's morphed into what it is.
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Agree with something is up. But the changes in O started with Milton who could not execute some of it. Yet, Golesh is running it at USF. It is puzzling.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I couldn't do the Rockies...I simply can't take the cold. If I moved out west, I would probably move somewhere in southern Arizona.

It's a purple state...but it's pretty much the desert-mountain version of Florida.

It was weird to me how much the Phoenix vibe reminds me of T-Bay.
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I’ve been to Arizona once, and I was 5 years old in 2001-02. My grandpa took road trips a lot. I begged my way on to one where he drove the entire distance of I-40. I remember bits and pieces but I want to do it again with my kid once she’s a little older so she’ll remember more of it than I did.

Edit: shouldn’t say entire distance. Took 26 up through asheville then hopped on 40.

Also made stops in Dallas, Austin in Tx. and continued on past Death Valley into LA.
 
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Vols4us said:
Agree with something is up. But the changes in O started with Milton who could not execute some of it. Yet, Golesh is running it at USF. It is puzzling.
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Yes, Golesh was able to find a QB who can run the complexities of the offense but Nico can't do it in year 2? I agree, it's puzzling. I've never seen the same team/coaching staff look so different as our offense has in 23/24 vs 22.
 
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TN-POSSUM said:
Bump


This year's playoff format and committee could not have been any worse. The layout with conference champions and bye weeks didn't even sound right when they extended it to 12 teams.

IMO:
Top 8 teams get in
No bye weeks
No automatic bids
Conference championship games count
SOS counts
Use a mix of computers and humans (just no sitting ADs or anyone looking to make money off the games)
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I say expand to 16 teams and use the big bowl games instead of home field advantage. NO BYES---8 games, 4 games, 2 games and a championship game ---done.

Also play all the games in dome stadiums, or warm weather areas to level the playing field
 
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engineerVOL said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if Day sold his soul to the devil (some Connor Stallions type) for some espionage goodies on Tennessee and Oregon. The VOLS and Ducks aren’t slaw, and they slaughtered both of us.
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That's the thought that kept gnawing at me as I watched the game.
"This is like the South Carolina game!"
But no, we just played terribly and they gave us a shalacking.
This is the first time I've spoken of that game since that night, I believe 🤬.
 
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January 2, 1939

UT - 17
Oklahoma - 0

The Volunteers had already earned the program's first National Championship, having been crowned by the Dunkel, Litkenhouse, Boand, Houlgate and Poling services for a 10-0 regular season.

When Robert Neyland took his Tennessee football team to Miami for the 1939 Orange Bowl, he didn't quite know what to expect from his team. An outbreak of an illness spread through the UT team leading up to the game.

The Vols found a crowd of 32,191 waiting for them at Orange Bowl Stadium and, though well undersized compared to their Sooner counterparts, used the speed and power that had defined them throughout the 1938 season to impose their will early.

One of many penalties on the day for Oklahoma backed the Sooner offense up to the 3-yard line in the first quarter. The punt that followed gave Tennessee a short field. Runs from Cafego, Leonard Coffman and Foxx moved the ball the 27 yards necessary for the game's first score, an 8-yard run from Foxx.

The Tennessee defense dominated play throughout the game, as had become its custom. UT played to the maxims that Neyland preached and played for and made the breaks. When a fumble came the Volunteers' way, they scored again. Babe Wood completed a pass to the OU 4-yard line, but a penalty thwarted the drive and UT settled for a Bowden Wyatt 32-yard field goal. The score moved the margin to 10-0 headed to halftime.

It was not a particularly clean game, with the teams combining for over 200 penalty yards, many from numerous incidents of "Slugging, kicking, heckling and wrangling with officials," as Knoxville Journal sports editor Tom Anderson wrote before noting that a press box consensus found Oklahoma to be the primary instigator. Indeed, OU tackle Gilford Duggan was ejected for instigating a fight with UT guard Ed Molinski, though Molinski was also escorted to the locker room for his role.

Tennessee continued to dominate play in the second half, though neither team managed a score in the third quarter. Wood capped a 73-yard drive with a 19-yard touchdown run. UT faced a late Oklahoma push that went all the way inside the Vols' 10, but preserved the win and the shutout, 17-0.

UT scored more points than OU had given up in the entire 1938 season. The Volunteers dominated the stat lines, outgaining the Sooners 260-94. The ground game was the key, 197 rushing yards for Tennessee, 25 for Oklahoma.





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