Recruiting Football Talk VIII

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Volbucky said:
What I don’t get is one of the “insiders” said heupel has evolved into an impressive HC. If this is what some call impressive then I’m even more confused by it than I was. This is not impressive, this is unimaginative and boring
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So averaging 10 wins is boring? Jesus some of our fans are dumb.
 
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KB5252 said:
Using a part of the body as a weapon, particularly in shots to the head is what they are trying to take away from the game. That was borderline at best to me. If the front of the facemask makes contact to me that is keeping your head up and making a form tackle, that's how I was taught to tackle.

He didn't target the guys head, or at least it didn't appear like he did to me anyway. That's one of the things I hate about the rule, it's so open to interpretation that it can't be consistently called.
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I agree that this wasn’t a head hunting play, but the rule says any forcible contact to the head or neck of a defenseless player with the helmet, arm, fist, shoulder, etc. is targeting. It’s just true that the defender hit the WR in the head with force.

The rule requires the defender to lower the aim point. That’s how you avoid the foul. Heck, UGA had 2 guys ejected against Texas for almost identical tackles with lower aiming points and less forcible contact to the head, except the WRs both lowered their heads into contact.

The rule might need to change (I won’t defend it), but I have no idea how the call isn’t made there.
 
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MarcoVol said:
They consistently gave up more points to teams in a lesser conference
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That lesser conference stuff doesn’t hold much water this year.
SEC was mostly crap this year and what we played, ( no ole miss, Texas or SCjr, LSU) was all crap except UGA. Including Bama
 
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engineerVOL said:
I like the idea of more analysts but this just feeds into the notion that Heupel’s offensive assistants are just old buddies.
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Not just a notion. I prefer the Saban model of going out to find the best coaches in the country. But, I could see an approach of working with those people that you know.
 
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butchna said:
It’s an ANALYST. He has name recognition and may relate to recruits. Maybe he won’t be exciting…what’s the risk?
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Im not against the hire, just saying I wasn’t overly excited about it. I guess I don’t know what exactly an analyst does. If he’s in charge of helping decipher offensive schemes, then why not get someone with more of a resume and less someone the HC knows personally? Again, not hating on the hire, just not saying “wow, I can’t believe we got Landry freaking Jones to come help with the offense!”
 
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Checker_the_Shire said:
Im not against the hire, just saying I wasn’t overly excited about it. I guess I don’t know what exactly an analyst does. If he’s in charge of helping decipher offensive schemes, then why not get someone with more of a resume and less someone the HC knows personally? Again, not hating on the hire, just not saying “wow, I can’t believe we got Landry freaking Jones to come help with the offense!”
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Busy work and individual drills. Also contacting recruits. Sometimes I don’t even know all the names from year to year. How many knew Coach Chop before last year? I had to look him up on UTSports three years ago when I kept seeing recruits reference him in their Tweets.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
And who's fault is that? Nico is his dude. He's had him here for two years. Look, I don't know what's wrong with the offense. It's a shell of its former self. Just like the defense, it's very simplistic. Very little motion. Very little creativity. Very little deception. It seems to be even less than last year with Milton. I've said it multiple times, I'm not one of those that believe the offense left with Golesh. Something is up. I don't know why it's morphed into what it is.
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I think it morphed out of necessity. We ran wide open offense as much as we could against creampuffs scoring 60 points per game. When we got into SEC play our Oline and WRs got exposed...our starting Tackles got manhandled and run around all game. Coach got pizzed and put in the backups if you remember and we went sack, sack, sack on 3 consecutive downs (Nico might have managed to throw the ball away on 2nd down? Same result tho in Nico on his back) The WRs like Nimrod were dropping wide open TDs and when they didnt Nico overthrew them. The Arkansas game was UGLY. CJH realized he didnt have the personnel necessary to run the Spread much aggressively so he adapted. Used the Spread formation still to keep defenses stretched thin, but ran the ball more than we ever have because this Oline was much better at run blocking than pass blocking...and the WRs sucked all year if we are being honest. This was the least exciting offense this year since CJH has been here. It was probably his best coaching job though and showed me that he is able to adapt to his personnel and try to mask weaknesses, rather than being too proud and still trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. Now lets see what Coach does about it. Lets see what the Oline and WRs look like in 2025. Theres gonna be growing pains because we will be young at WR and at spots on the Oline (Satterwhite, Sanders) but if the Oline and WRs arent better next year CJH is gonna have to make a move with Pope and maybe Ellarbee too. 2026 should mean a playoff run and shot at winning it all. Everything that happens between here and there will affect that run. I am excited to see how we attack that opportunity. GO VOLS
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I think it morphed out of necessity. We ran wide open offense as much as we could against creampuffs scoring 60 points per game. When we got into SEC play our Oline and WRs got exposed...our starting Tackles got manhandled and run around all game. Coach got pizzed and put in the backups if you remember and we went sack, sack, sack on 3 consecutive downs (Nico might have managed to throw the ball away on 2nd down? Same result tho in Nico on his back) The WRs like Nimrod were dropping wide open TDs and when they didnt Nico overthrew them. The Arkansas game was UGLY. CJH realized he didnt have the personnel necessary to run the Spread much aggressively so he adapted. Used the Spread formation still to keep defenses stretched thin, but ran the ball more than we ever have because this Oline was much better at run blocking than pass blocking...and the WRs sucked all year if we are being honest. This was the least exciting offense this year since CJH has been here. It was probably his best coaching job though and showed me that he is able to adapt to his personnel and try to mask weaknesses, rather than being too proud and still trying to make a square peg fit in a round hole. Now lets see what Coach does about it. Lets see what the Oline and WRs look like in 2025. Theres gonna be growing pains because we will be young at WR and at spots on the Oline (Satterwhite, Sanders) but if the Oline and WRs arent better next year CJH is gonna have to make a move with Pope and maybe Ellarbee too. 2026 should mean a playoff run and shot at winning it all. Everything that happens between here and there will affect that run. I am excited to see how we attack that opportunity. GO VOLS
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I agree but the offensive scheme gave no help. Little to no motion. Very little ingenuity. Made it easy on the defense.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
And who's fault is that? Nico is his dude. He's had him here for two years. Look, I don't know what's wrong with the offense. It's a shell of its former self. Just like the defense, it's very simplistic. Very little motion. Very little creativity. Very little deception. It seems to be even less than last year with Milton. I've said it multiple times, I'm not one of those that believe the offense left with Golesh. Something is up. I don't know why it's morphed into what it is.
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Agree with something is up. But the changes in O started with Milton who could not execute some of it. Yet, Golesh is running it at USF. It is puzzling.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I couldn't do the Rockies...I simply can't take the cold. If I moved out west, I would probably move somewhere in southern Arizona.

It's a purple state...but it's pretty much the desert-mountain version of Florida.

It was weird to me how much the Phoenix vibe reminds me of T-Bay.
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I’ve been to Arizona once, and I was 5 years old in 2001-02. My grandpa took road trips a lot. I begged my way on to one where he drove the entire distance of I-40. I remember bits and pieces but I want to do it again with my kid once she’s a little older so she’ll remember more of it than I did.

Edit: shouldn’t say entire distance. Took 26 up through asheville then hopped on 40.

Also made stops in Dallas, Austin in Tx. and continued on past Death Valley into LA.
 
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butchna said:
Why would you hire unvetted strangers who don’t know your scheme?
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When your scheme has posed little threat to a good defense in two years. Fresh ideas. The best ones do it. I know nothing about offensive game planning, but his OC/QB/WR/OL coaches aren’t really getting poached.
 
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Vols4us said:
Agree with something is up. But the changes in O started with Milton who could not execute some of it. Yet, Golesh is running it at USF. It is puzzling.
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Yes, Golesh was able to find a QB who can run the complexities of the offense but Nico can't do it in year 2? I agree, it's puzzling. I've never seen the same team/coaching staff look so different as our offense has in 23/24 vs 22.
 
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