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#111,351
TN-POSSUM said:
Bump


This year's playoff format and committee could not have been any worse. The layout with conference champions and bye weeks didn't even sound right when they extended it to 12 teams.

IMO:
Top 8 teams get in
No bye weeks
No automatic bids
Conference championship games count
SOS counts
Use a mix of computers and humans (just no sitting ADs or anyone looking to make money off the games)
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I say expand to 16 teams and use the big bowl games instead of home field advantage. NO BYES---8 games, 4 games, 2 games and a championship game ---done.

Also play all the games in dome stadiums, or warm weather areas to level the playing field
 
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engineerVOL said:
Wouldn’t surprise me if Day sold his soul to the devil (some Connor Stallions type) for some espionage goodies on Tennessee and Oregon. The VOLS and Ducks aren’t slaw, and they slaughtered both of us.
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That's the thought that kept gnawing at me as I watched the game.
"This is like the South Carolina game!"
But no, we just played terribly and they gave us a shalacking.
This is the first time I've spoken of that game since that night, I believe 🤬.
 
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January 2, 1939

UT - 17
Oklahoma - 0

The Volunteers had already earned the program's first National Championship, having been crowned by the Dunkel, Litkenhouse, Boand, Houlgate and Poling services for a 10-0 regular season.

When Robert Neyland took his Tennessee football team to Miami for the 1939 Orange Bowl, he didn't quite know what to expect from his team. An outbreak of an illness spread through the UT team leading up to the game.

The Vols found a crowd of 32,191 waiting for them at Orange Bowl Stadium and, though well undersized compared to their Sooner counterparts, used the speed and power that had defined them throughout the 1938 season to impose their will early.

One of many penalties on the day for Oklahoma backed the Sooner offense up to the 3-yard line in the first quarter. The punt that followed gave Tennessee a short field. Runs from Cafego, Leonard Coffman and Foxx moved the ball the 27 yards necessary for the game's first score, an 8-yard run from Foxx.

The Tennessee defense dominated play throughout the game, as had become its custom. UT played to the maxims that Neyland preached and played for and made the breaks. When a fumble came the Volunteers' way, they scored again. Babe Wood completed a pass to the OU 4-yard line, but a penalty thwarted the drive and UT settled for a Bowden Wyatt 32-yard field goal. The score moved the margin to 10-0 headed to halftime.

It was not a particularly clean game, with the teams combining for over 200 penalty yards, many from numerous incidents of "Slugging, kicking, heckling and wrangling with officials," as Knoxville Journal sports editor Tom Anderson wrote before noting that a press box consensus found Oklahoma to be the primary instigator. Indeed, OU tackle Gilford Duggan was ejected for instigating a fight with UT guard Ed Molinski, though Molinski was also escorted to the locker room for his role.

Tennessee continued to dominate play in the second half, though neither team managed a score in the third quarter. Wood capped a 73-yard drive with a 19-yard touchdown run. UT faced a late Oklahoma push that went all the way inside the Vols' 10, but preserved the win and the shutout, 17-0.

UT scored more points than OU had given up in the entire 1938 season. The Volunteers dominated the stat lines, outgaining the Sooners 260-94. The ground game was the key, 197 rushing yards for Tennessee, 25 for Oklahoma.





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Visidog said:
I agree that this wasn’t a head hunting play, but the rule says any forcible contact to the head or neck of a defenseless player with the helmet, arm, fist, shoulder, etc. is targeting. It’s just true that the defender hit the WR in the head with force.

The rule requires the defender to lower the aim point. That’s how you avoid the foul. Heck, UGA had 2 guys ejected against Texas for almost identical tackles with lower aiming points and less forcible contact to the head, except the WRs both lowered their heads into contact.

The rule might need to change (I won’t defend it), but I have no idea how the call isn’t made there.
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Plus the guy ESPN pays to analyze the calls, Matt Austin said point blank before the review that it was text book targeting by the current rules. I agree a lot of the targeting rules are BS but that’s not what is being debated. If that had happened to Tennessee we would have literally burned the entire world down. It was one of the worst calls I have ever seen and I could care less about either team. I definitely agree it wasn’t intentional targeting but that isn’t the rule because they deliberately wanted to remove intent from the rules because it’s impossible to determine. Oh well ASU still had every chance to win in overtime. The inconsistency is what is so frustrating and what leads fans to believe everything is rigged.
 
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#111,359
MoCo_Vol said:
For an analyst job, Landry Jones is a great hire. With the Steelers for 5 seasons, playing 18 total games. Spent a season with Jaguars and Raiders and then a year with the Dallas Renegades in the XFL...which isn't a huge feather, but Bob Stoops was the HC and Hal Mumme was the OC.
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I love the hire as well
 
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jave36 said:
Why didn't they make the sugar Bowl a night game? Most everyone around the country will be working still...
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The coaches, from both teams, thought they would be at a disadvantage having less time to prepare for their next game. I know it's only about 4 hours but that was their belief. As it stands now, the winning team will still have less time to prepare because the game was moved back a day. Coaches really believe this stuff
 
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I think Saquon is pretty damn happy he got 2k and this game doesn't help the Eagles at all. They're the 2 seed with no chance of being the 1 seed (Lions play Vikings and both are 14-2, winner is the 1 seed out right). But losing any more players to injury would kill the Eagles SB chances.

Also as it stands now they'll get very good GB team as the 7 seed or Washington depending on how Sunday goes (GB wins and Washington loses then it'll be Eagles hosting Washington).

The more interesting game is the Ravens...they are a 3 seed right now, losing Saturday would likely open the door for them to drop to a 5 seed if the Steelers win. So they're less likely to risk losing and dropping out of a hosting seed.

I doubt Henry gets THAT many carries, but if he breaks a few big runs he could also hit 2k this season (that would be awesome imo)
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
I think Saquon is pretty damn happy he got 2k and this game doesn't help the Eagles at all. They're the 2 seed with no chance of being the 1 seed (Lions play Vikings and both are 14-2, winner is the 1 seed out right). But losing any more players to injury would kill the Eagles SB chances.

Also as it stands now they'll get very good GB team as the 7 seed or Washington depending on how Sunday goes (GB wins and Washington loses then it'll be Eagles hosting Washington).

The more interesting game is the Ravens...they are a 3 seed right now, losing Saturday would likely open the door for them to drop to a 5 seed if the Steelers win. So they're less likely to risk losing and dropping out of a hosting seed.

I doubt Henry gets THAT many carries, but if he breaks a few big runs he could also hit 2k this season (that would be awesome imo)
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What seed are the Titans?
 
#111,365
#111,365
knoxvol52 said:
If Mike Matthews stays that's terrific, if Matthews goes so be it. Some are acting like this young man is the difference between 2 wins and a National Championship. Good grief..
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Key point here..he was a building piece for the future..raw potential who sat behind wr’s consistently dropping the ball…hurt or not if he felt like he was better than what was being put on the field…I gotta believe in his confidence..i wasn’t impressed with anyone outside of brazzell this year if that tells you anything and we wasted bru
 
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engineerVOL said:
When your scheme has posed little threat to a good defense in two years. Fresh ideas. The best ones do it. I know nothing about offensive game planning, but his OC/QB/WR/OL coaches aren’t really getting poached.
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You are aware that ANALYSTS aren’t hired to enact or adjust a scheme? They’re SUPPORT for what you’re going to do anyway. This is a stepping stone for fledgling coaches in training or coaches between jobs. Don’t make it more than what it is. He made a name for himself by setting some records in college and holding a roster spot in the NFL for a minute…otherwise we’d notice less than when we first heard Mitch Militello signed on…whenever the hell that was.
 
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Batman1948 said:
The coaches, from both teams, thought they would be at a disadvantage having less time to prepare for their next game. I know it's only about 4 hours but that was their belief. As it stands now, the winning team will still have less time to prepare because the game was moved back a day. Coaches really believe this stuff
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It's the difference of losing an entire day. Play early and you get out town that night and back home..... Start normal schedule for prep the following day. Play that night and you stay overnight get it and kiss the day to travel.

It makes sense.
 
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#111,372
BigSteve09 said:
I thought the Oregon beatdown might center some Vols fans that have been whining since we lost

yet I go on Twitter and they're still out in force

It's like they have a meltdown complex that if it isn't going perfect, it's not worth having, so burn it all down
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We could win the natty 80-0, Jesus comes back, and every Vol fan survives the rapture, and we’d still have a vocal minority complaining.
 
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butchna said:
You are aware that ANALYSTS aren’t hired to enact or adjust a scheme? They’re SUPPORT for what you’re going to do anyway. This is a stepping stone for fledgling coaches in training or coaches between jobs. Don’t make it more than what it is. He made a name for himself by setting some records in college and holding a roster spot in the NFL for a minute…otherwise we’d notice less than when we first heard Mitch Militello signed on…whenever the hell that was.
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I’ll agree with some of that. Trying not to make much of it. But it’s the offseason 😜

But an analysts isn’t hired to support what you’re doing, but identify blind spots, weaknesses, inject new ideas.

Again, no idea what Landry brings to the table. But I don’t agree with you that analysts are hired to be yes men and support. Very much disagree.
 
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