Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Devo182]

We didn't sign a single juco this year did we?

Didn't even think of that. That's a win. Now let's redshirt a ton.

 

[butchna]

We’ll see.

I’m not saying we ever fire the guy or that we ever should. He’s far and away the best basketball coach we’ve ever had here - maybe Mears but I’m too young to judge in that regard.

But Barnes had an approval rating here higher than I’ve ever seen for any coach, in any sport, at UT or at any school I can think of. Orgeron is probably in that tier at LSU. Barnes is a great coach and his faith + personality has made him a great fit in this community. But the UCLA stuff tainted him. Maybe just a little bit. Maybe like 1%. But once that starts, it’s hard to get it back. Especially at his new salary.

Fulmer’s got his back and so do the majority of the fans. He wins and does it right. He’s a bargain.

 

[BruinVol]

I’m not sure why the responses are such


Since we are talking about South Carolina I looked at their 247 page and they have 22 commits and only 17 signed

I am just asking if there is a link that shows the total number signed by each school yesterday

 

[bignewt]

We didn't sign a single juco this year did we?

Not yet

 

[jakez4ut]

I’m not sure why the responses are such


Since we are talking about South Carolina I looked at their 247 page and they have 22 commits and only 17 signed

I am just asking if there is a link that shows the total number signed by each school yesterday

no.

 

[butchna]

I guess I completely misread your intent...sorry.

I don't know a single person among all my Vol friends and family that gives a thought to the UCLA crap.

People worrying about other people’s money are determined worriers.

 

[jakez4ut]

People worrying about other people’s money are determined worriers.

we have a lot of that here. lol.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

This was never going to be a season up to the standards of the last two years. Too many new pieces. We are so limited inside. As I said earlier the NCAA screwed us over by not letting Uros play. Fulkerson is doing all he can but he was really man handled last night. Not having any appreciable inside game is putting pressure on the outside game and our seniors have not stepped up. In the Memphis game our guards were missing open looks. Last night they were not getting many open looks. They aren't penetrating guards either so that limits what we can do.

This is going to be a long year. Not sure how much the new guy coming in in January will help. It's just really difficult replacing 4 of your starting 5. Three of them being NBA talent.

Next year should be much better with the incoming freshmen, Uros being there, JJJ/Olivier/Pember/Gaines with a year under their belt, and don't forget we have a transfer on the bench that I thought looked awesome in the Rocky Top tipoff. Just gotta survive this year and try scrap out an NCAA tournament bid.

To me, the biggest issue right now is the loss of Bone. We have no true PG, much less a PG the caliber of Bone - his speed, his court vision, his passing skills, his ability to know his teammates strengths and where they like to get the ball. Neither Turner nor Bowden are suited for PG, and it is really hurting Turner's offensive game having to focus on the PG position.

I remember someone doing an interview with Bone about midway through last season when he was starting to really get some national attention as a top PG. He said that when that offseason started he was talking to CRB who told him he didn't really know his teammates. Bone didn't understand what CRB meant because he had know each of his teammates for several years.

But CRB told him he didn't know his teammates as players; what are each of their strengths and weaknesses, what spots on the floor do they shoot best from, etc., and Bone said he dedicated the offseason to studying his teammates on the floor and truly getting to know their games. He said that really elevated his role as a PG to the next level, and that helped him to develop his own offense within the team's offense.

The team misses his skills greatly.

 

[Volbucky]

I’m not sure why the responses are such


Since we are talking about South Carolina I looked at their 247 page and they have 22 commits and only 17 signed

I am just asking if there is a link that shows the total number signed by each school yesterday

You just answered your own question

 

[Pane di mais]

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[HankHill]

But you could also spin it that he did it with the bad news bears, players that no big time programs wanted out of high school.

Yup and both would be true.

 

[HankHill]

We’ll see.

I’m not saying we ever fire the guy or that we ever should. He’s far and away the best basketball coach we’ve ever had here - maybe Mears but I’m too young to judge in that regard.

But Barnes had an approval rating here higher than I’ve ever seen for any coach, in any sport, at UT or at any school I can think of. Orgeron is probably in that tier at LSU. Barnes is a great coach and his faith + personality has made him a great fit in this community. But the UCLA stuff tainted him. Maybe just a little bit. Maybe like 1%. But once that starts, it’s hard to get it back. Especially at his new salary.

I think Bruce is a better coach than Barnes but i see you.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I asked this months ago for the last class, but I'm going to do it again. Out of the signees we have currently, which one do you guys think will have the best college career, and who could be drafted the highest.

 

[Sleegro]

I’m not sure why the responses are such


Since we are talking about South Carolina I looked at their 247 page and they have 22 commits and only 17 signed

I am just asking if there is a link that shows the total number signed by each school yesterday

Yeah I don't know of any. Would be cool if they made that a filter on 247 and rivals though between ESD and NSD. Someone should write them a strongly worded letter.

 

[Sleegro]

I asked this months ago for the last class, but I'm going to do it again. Out of the signees we have currently, which one do you guys think will have the best college career, and who could be drafted the highest.

Will Albright.

 

[Volbucky]

Will Albright.

But seriously

 

[BruinVol]

You just answered your own question

I’m sure in some publication the signed numbers are mentioned

I was hoping someone had that here

 

[bignewt]

I asked this months ago for the last class, but I'm going to do it again. Out of the signees we have currently, which one do you guys think will have the best college career, and who could be drafted the highest.

I'll wait till they actually play a down of college football.

 

[butchna]

I think Bruce is a better coach than Barnes but i see you.

Put both in front of a chalkboard and Barnes runs laps around Pearl. Give both the same exact player and the one developed by Barnes is better in every facet. Win a hyped game or resurrect the concept of an organized circus and Bruce is the guy.

 

[VolsdeepVFL]

We didn't sign a single juco this year did we?

That's a major win

 

[Weezer]

Not looking to start rumors we could flip him or anything(not happening), but has anyone heard why Broderick Jones didn't sign yesterday? Seems strange.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I think Bruce is a better coach than Barnes but i see you.

Never really cared for Bruce’s style of play once the tournament came around. I know he went really far last year but it always felt to me like his brand of basketball is solely dependent on the other team pissing down their leg due to the press defense.

In general I don’t like when your success is dependent on the other team performing poorly. I like to control my own destiny.

 

[GoBigOrangeVols]

Under reported observation: Vols didn't take any JUCO players (and it doesn't appear that they will this cycle). I see that as confirmation that the staff likes the way the current roster has developed, and that they don't see a glaring hole in the roster that needs a stop-gap measure.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think Bruce is a better coach than Barnes but i see you.

Bruce is a good coach...so is Barnes. Who is better is subjective.

 

[beneVOLence]

I asked this months ago for the last class, but I'm going to do it again. Out of the signees we have currently, which one do you guys think will have the best college career, and who could be drafted the highest.

I’ll say MJ. Not going to type his name because I’m afraid I might put some bad mojo on him.