Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Sleegro]

I’ll say MJ. Not going to type his name because I’m afraid I might put some bad mojo on him.

MJ >>>>>>>> bron

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Absolutely. You could also spin his last two years as he had 2 x SEC POY & 2.5 NBA players and never won a conference tourney and had a sweet 16 & 2nd round exit.

That doesn’t mean those last two years weren’t incredibly fun. I would take them pretty much every year. But when you only look at the end of the years, we’ve underachieved.

Come on man...you know he was the reason those boys are in the league..none of them were expected to be what they became..Barnes developed them.

 

[bignewt]

Tom Coughlin getting the axe in Jacksonville because of the player union warning free agents of excessive complaints and fines is the most non-surprising thing I will see today.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

lmao

Excuses already built in..and dumb kids will continue to buy it.

 

[VFL10]

Under reported observation: Vols didn't take any JUCO players (and it doesn't appear that they will this cycle). I see that as confirmation that the staff likes the way the current roster has developed, and that they don't see a glaring hole in the roster that needs a stop-gap measure.

Underrated post IMO.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Possible Defense in 2021
DL: Garland, Harris, Emerson, Thomas, Bailey, Perry, Simmons, plus incoming Fr.

LB: TooToo, Banks, Peterson, Baron, Whitehead (I think he will end up here), Eason, French, Crouch, Joseph, Harrison, Beasley (If he stays at LB), Bennett will be a SR. and incoming Fr.

Secondary: Taylor, Thompson, Fields, McCollough, Burrell, Labruzza (Will be a Sr. I think and if he stays), Lawrence, Slaughter, McDonald, and incoming Fr.

That's elite

 

[chavisut]

Simmons

 

[StoVol]

Possible Defense in 2021
DL: Garland, Harris, Emerson, Thomas, Bailey, Perry, Simmons, plus incoming Fr.

LB: TooToo, Banks, Peterson, Baron, Whitehead (I think he will end up here), Eason, French, Crouch, Joseph, Harrison, Beasley (If he stays at LB), Bennett will be a SR. and incoming Fr.

Secondary: Taylor, Thompson, Fields, McCollough, Burrell, Labruzza (Will be a Sr. I think and if he stays), Lawrence, Slaughter, McDonald, and incoming Fr.

That's elite

I love that u put banks on there like its settled.. i sure hope he comes back

 

[HankHill]

Put both in front of a chalkboard and Barnes runs laps around Pearl. Give both the same exact player and the one developed by Barnes is better in every facet. Win a hyped game or resurrect the concept of an organized circus and Bruce is the guy.

Idk man placing 3rd in the big 12 and getting bounced in the 2nd round while having Kevin Durant and DJ Augustine is criminally underachieving. Barnes has also only won one conference tournament (1993 providence). Bruce has won 3 conference tournaments (last year and a couple at UWM).

Also worth noting Bruce career winning % is .725 ( 573 - 217 ) both have 1 final four.

 

[jakez4ut]

I asked this months ago for the last class, but I'm going to do it again. Out of the signees we have currently, which one do you guys think will have the best college career, and who could be drafted the highest.

i'll say Keyshawn or Eason.

 

[jakez4ut]

Possible Defense in 2021
DL: Garland, Harris, Emerson, Thomas, Bailey, Perry, Simmons, plus incoming Fr.

LB: TooToo, Banks, Peterson, Baron, Whitehead (I think he will end up here), Eason, French, Crouch, Joseph, Harrison, Beasley (If he stays at LB), Bennett will be a SR. and incoming Fr.

Secondary: Taylor, Thompson, Fields, McCollough, Burrell, Labruzza (Will be a Sr. I think and if he stays), Lawrence, Slaughter, McDonald, and incoming Fr.

That's elite

don't forget we still have solomon and we get gooden back on the DL.

 

[TrippieRedd]

don't forget we still have solomon and we get gooden back on the DL.

they wont be there in 2021

 

[HankHill]

Come on man...you know he was the reason those boys are in the league..none of them were expected to be what they became..Barnes developed them.

Sure he helped but those guys were great players, it doesn’t matter where they are recruited. It’s like saying Khalil Mack wouldn’t Be in the league if he didn’t go to Buffalo. Great players will eventually find their way. They always do.

 

[jakez4ut]

they wont be there in 2021

oh.

yeah, i just completely skipped that part.

 

[HankHill]

Never really cared for Bruce’s style of play once the tournament came around. I know he went really far last year but it always felt to me like his brand of basketball is solely dependent on the other team pissing down their leg due to the press defense.

In general I don’t like when your success is dependent on the other team performing poorly. I like to control my own destiny.

Then i can’t really see how you would prefer Barnes style of play bc he is widely regarded as one of the biggest tournament under achievers especially considering some of the talent he’s had.

 

[drvenner]

I see that USCw’s class ranking is low, but they did sign Parker Lewis. So expect them to go 60-0 over the next 4 years (75-0 if he redshirts).

Well, duh. I wish we had Parker Lewis. Because, well, you know why.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Then i can’t really see how you would prefer Barnes style of play bc he is widely regarded as one of the biggest tournament under achievers especially considering some of the talent he’s had.

I don’t necessarily disagree - I don’t think he’s perfect in that regard either. Just think his style is more consistent for winning two or three games a week in a tournament setting. The evidence doesn’t necessarily support my argument, however.

 

[drvenner]

Last day of the year for me at the office today. They aint getting jack out of me.

Please take this with all the heartfelt insincerity it warrants, but

YOU SUCK, DUDE.

 

[drvenner]

lmao

Bears fixin to run some pups offa da field.

 

[StoVol]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Then i can’t really see how you would prefer Barnes style of play bc he is widely regarded as one of the biggest tournament under achievers especially considering some of the talent he’s had.

Barnes has had some bad luck in the Dance. Just weird stuff like running into a hot team, or his team going inexplicably cold.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Rando threads....

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I think Whitehead is a really nice prospect. We’ll see about Eason.

I don’t believe either are on the elite level of To’oto’o for us last year, or Sewell this year. Jmo.

Agree on Tate. He would have been an elite OT.

I think we got nice WRs & a nice RB (Small). But none that I would say are elite prospects.

All jmo.

Actually looks like some bumps happened after ESD. We now have all 3 ILBs in the top 15. Oregon (#1 & #2 ILBs), LSU (2 in the top 7) and Bama (2 in the top 8) are the only schools that have better ILBs this class.


So imo I'd say the 3 spots this class could still improve are:

OL - A 4 star OT would really be nice, but any good high 3 or 4 star additions would be welcome
WR/TE - putting this together because landing Washington would be enough imo
RB - I like both, but neither is truly "elite"

And then really best available after that, I think this 2020 class has a lot of DL talent so wouldn't be surprised if we're taking another 1 or 2 DL/OLB type guys

 

[Vols4us]

People worrying about other people’s money are determined worriers.

Drives me crazy. They should go focus on their neighbor's barking dogs to keep them occupied.

 

[BearCat204]

Actually looks like some bumps happened after ESD. We now have all 3 ILBs in the top 15. Oregon (#1 & #2 ILBs), LSU (2 in the top 7) and Bama (2 in the top 8) are the only schools that have better ILBs this class.


So imo I'd say the 3 spots this class could still improve are:

OL - A 4 star OT would really be nice, but any good high 3 or 4 star additions would be welcome
WR/TE - putting this together because landing Washington would be enough imo
RB - I like both, but neither is truly "elite"

And then really best available after that, I think this 2020 class has a lot of DL talent so wouldn't be surprised if we're taking another 1 or 2 DL/OLB type guys

This alone is incredible