Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[volatil]

 

[Weezer]

The challenge this staff has immediately is having something they can continue to sell, and counter the negative recruiting surely to follow a performance like that.

And to do that, this staff is going to have to do something they've not done yet..."coach" themselves to a win... Likely 2... That they're not supposed to win. And a large part of that is gonna revolve around getting more "dynamic" offensively...I use the term loosely... But you get the idea.

On defense... Need guys to make plays, period. They've been there to make... We've dropped the ball (literally and figuratively) too many times.

The vision is 3 years old.

Time for a result that matters....

I think the KY loss is more painful to recruiting than losing to Bama. People can scream all they want, but we're not close to Bama yet. We should be better than KY.

 

[Tshotdan]

I think Pruitt is leaning on their youth and relationships for recurring purposes while they lack the experience to develop their respective position groups. We have regressed since last year and those coaching shifts along with not hiring an experienced S&C are hurting us imo.

Sounds like excuses. If my commander in the Army had as many excuses he would be relieved of command immediately!

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Did we really not give up a passing TD yesterday....to Bama?

Nope. Just couldn't stop them from pounding our dicks into the dirt

 

[jakez4ut]

I think the KY loss is more painful to recruiting than losing to Bama. People can scream all they want, but we're not close to Bama yet. We should be better than KY.

Yeah.. Performance, in my post, should be plural....

Point is still the same.

 

[rekinhavoc]

I want a coach that will walk into practice and tell the team nobody's job is safe after the last two weeks coaches included.

 

[headhunter15]

Saw a post on the Cheney thread in the FF that alluded to Cheney possibly being done at the end of this season and Chip Long taking over.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

The challenge this staff has immediately is having something they can continue to sell, and counter the negative recruiting surely to follow a performance like that.

And to do that, this staff is going to have to do something they've not done yet..."coach" themselves to a win... Likely 2... That they're not supposed to win. And a large part of that is gonna revolve around getting more "dynamic" offensively...I use the term loosely... But you get the idea.

On defense... Need guys to make plays, period. They've been there to make... We've dropped the ball (literally and figuratively) too many times.

The vision is 3 years old.

Time for a result that matters....

We are maxing out our 25% capacity in the middle of a pandemic… There is that.

 

[millst987]

He doesn’t when theOL isn’t protecting but yesterday JG was in rhythm with great protection and yet the play calling didn’t change.
Pathetic

I’ve been down on Chaney too
He’s called some bad games this year for sure
However, I do believe he’s scared to death of his starting QB

 

[lfvol]

Challenge:

Name 1 player that has improved from last year on each side of the ball.

Crouch and Gray

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Saw a post on the Cheney thread in the FF that alluded to Cheney possibly being done at the end of this season and Chip Long taking over.

Unless he retires I doubt it. Im not sure we have the money to be firing million dollar coordinators.

 

[Weezer]

Yeah.. Performance, in my post, should be plural....

Point is still the same.

I'm just saying, unlike the fanbase, recruits can look at yesterday's game with the perspective that the Bama machine is just on another level right now. We weren't expected to win, so it's no surprise we lost. But when you look at the KY game where we got our ass handed to us, well, that's concerning.

 

[snowvols]

19/25 185 yds 1td
25/44 318 yds 3td 1 int
218/28 365 yds 2 tds
18/40 269 2tds 3ints
13/24 162 yds 2 tds

As much as people are praising JG yesterday he still had the lowest output of any qb vs Bama this year. Only Bennett had a worse total game.

 

[rjd970]

I want a coach that will walk into practice and tell the team nobody's job is safe after the last two weeks coaches included.

Matthews said on his show this morning Hyatt should be getting more touches. He told a story about how Majors came into the coaches room after a game once and said if a player (forgot which one) didn't get 12 touches a game the rest of the year somebody is getting fired.

 

[HankHill]

There is a little conjunction called “or” between those two statements, which means is it our coaching staff or the older players who were recruited by our former coaching staff, which includes the head coach named Butch. In other words, I’m trying to ask is it the current coaching staff not producing leaders, because they are not leading, or is it because the older players who are in the position to lead aren’t doing it because they don’t have that type of mentality, which is part of the recruiting process finding kids for your program that are born leaders. We usually call those type of people alphas. Clear now?

I think this staff is not recruiting enough good players and they also keep flip flopping players positions and position coaches so how are they supposed to really develop into anything?

 

[tnhunter 10]

He doesn’t when theOL isn’t protecting but yesterday JG was in rhythm with great protection and yet the play calling didn’t change.
Pathetic

If they dont trust JG to throw the ball, then sit him down. But, im assuming they don't trust any QB. Which is in coaching staff developing another QB.

 

[Kingston Vol]

I think a lot has to do with the assistants, on defense the MLB, olb and dline coaches are not good

On offense he need to promote coach o and chip long

Eh, color me skeptical that we ever have a robust, killer offense under Pruitt. Coaches in his mold don’t back off enough to get that done.

 

[LargePairOfVols]

The concerning thing is you’re seeing programs that really aren’t that great have decent years here and there- Colorado. Oklahoma State. Iowa State. Not every year. And not most years. But, they have years where it all comes together and they beat some folks and have a solid year.

Tennessee doesn’t do that. Ever. It doesn’t matter the coaches. It doesn’t matter the players. It doesn’t matter the administration. It’s the same garbage every year.

It’s absolutely inexplicable.

And don’t tell me the teams above play in terrible conferences. I get that. They also don’t have access to the types of players that Tennessee does. Yet, they are managing to put everything together occasionally.

There is something fundamentally wrong with the Tennessee program. I’m not sure any other conclusion holds at this point. We’ve seen enough.

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

Saw a post on the Cheney thread in the FF that alluded to Cheney possibly being done at the end of this season and Chip Long taking over.

You can change the puppet all you want, but when the master is still the same, the same results will happen. There is no way Jim Chaney would institute that conservative of a game plan yesterday, no matter who the quarterback is. There’s no way Jim Chaney runs the ball three straight times at midfield after a turnover.

 

[lfvol]

Saw a post on the Cheney thread in the FF that alluded to Cheney possibly being done at the end of this season and Chip Long taking over.

My ND friend says ND players strongly disliked Long so he had to move on.

 

[Weezer]

Crouch and Gray

Crouch has not improved IMO. He's not suited to be an ILB. We need someone solid to step up and play next to Toot. The lack of a complement hurts Toot's play.

 

[JacketVol]

It pains me to say this, but that quote from him sounds just like a quote from our prior coach about players having 5 star hearts and being champions of life. My word!! I thought we had an actual football coach, but I don’t think we do, when said coach admits there are other players who are bigger stronger and faster but haven’t put in the time for it to be their turn? Unbelievable! I think we know how this all ends, and if so, it sets us back another decade at least. Sickening!

OAN: I’m tired of hiring experiments. If we have to hire again, please hire a PROVEN HEAD COACH!! And if we can’t make that hire, then put a coach who is a Vol for Life I’m the position, becauee I know he will give his all, and will never institute a game plan against Bama like the one we saw yesterday.

This quote reminds me of what Phil used to do. Didn’t like it then either. Used to be with Pruitt all you would hear is earn it in practice and competition. Now is it if your older?

 

[BlinghamptonVol]

I’m new to the recruiting forum, so please excuse my ignorance, but I’ve seen a lot of allusions to uga’s unethical recruiting. Can someone give me a quick overview of that? This thread is almost 8,000 pages so I probably won’t find it in here otherwise. Thanks!

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Matthews said on his show this morning Hyatt should be getting more touches. He told a story about how Majors came into the coaches room after a game once and said if a player (forgot which one) didn't get 12 touches a game the rest of the year somebody is getting fired.

Absolutely Hyatt should get more touches. I dont think there is a team left on our schedule that has someone who can match his speed. If we get one or two guys out of the box we should be able to run the ball and win a game or two

 

[HankHill]

Where do you get the idea that "so many people" want Pruitt's job? Our last coaching search would say otherwise.

Because i know what kind of money and resources we have especially now with fulmer. We are literally paying Chaney like a small head coach lol. We have double the support staffers now as opposed to when butch was here. The last search had Mullen has our coach of Currie would’ve locked the door. He was on the line and Currie couldn’t finish the deal.