Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[GojiraVol17]

No way would I ever trust #2 to keep me employed as a HC making $4 million a year. Yet, that is probably what Jeremy is going to do. Which tells me somebody above him is recommending it.

Or maybe he truly doesn’t think the others can or could do it right now

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Considering Arky and Auburn, maybe even tamu, look about the same and beatable, then no. Those 3 games are pretty interchangeable.

Plus...we're not playing for any specific goal - so just no such thing as "must win" to begin with.

I disagree. I think a loss to a first year coach and team that hasn’t won an SEC game in twenty tries would look terrible to recruits. That’s why I think it’s the biggest because it would be the biggest hit to recruiting. If we beat Arkansas and happen to lose to Auburn and A&M in close games, it wouldn’t be as bad on recruiting. The only way we continue to make strides is through recruiting.

 

[butchna]

One season is enough time for the AD and Freeze to know whether or not it could work in the future. Plant that seed for a beautiful relationship or confirm that it would never work. Plus you win all the games too of course.

Even Hugh Freeze never won all of Hugh Freeze’s games.

 

[Devo182]

I disagree. I think a loss to a first year coach and team that hasn’t won an SEC game in twenty tries would look terrible to recruits. That’s why I think it’s the biggest because it would be the biggest hit to recruiting. If we beat Arkansas and happen to lose to Auburn and A&M in close games, it wouldn’t be as bad on recruiting. The only way we continue to make strides is through recruiting.

They've won 2 SEC games this year fwiw.

I agree it would look bad, just saying that's not a cliff we'd be falling off either. Auburn and tamu would be right around the corner and aren't much better, if any. 1 or both of those wins would look good. I just don't think any recruits are making snap judgments after a single game against a .500 opponent when other big games remain.

UF is susceptible too...but...ya know.

 

[Jack Burton]

They've won 2 SEC games this year fwiw.

I agree it would look bad, just saying that's not a cliff we'd be falling off either. Auburn and tamu would be right around the corner and aren't much better, if any. 1 or both of those wins would look good. I just don't think any recruits are making snap judgments after a single game against a .500 opponent when other big games remain.

UF is susceptible too...but...ya know.

Games aren’t played in a vacuum though. Losing to Ark would be the 4th in a row and we’d be spiraling down further. Eventually we need to get some momentum back on our side and hopefully it starts with Arkansas.

 

[beneVOLence]

Is the Arkansas game the most important game of Pruitts head coach career so far? I think so. I believe if he played someone other than JG at QB then it wouldn’t be since fans and recruits would know we’re playing for the future. Since JG is starting (more than likely), it is a must win or I think we will see a lot of fans turn on him and recruiting will take a hit. We would be realistically looking at a 3-4 win season. It is a must win.

I don’t think so. Last year it was Mississippi State or South Carolina. CJP needs to find 2-3 wins down the stretch. If he loses to Arkansas but beats Texas A&M or Florida all will probably be forgiven. The most important thing I think is to find an identity on offense and a QB. Also, If he goes with HB and loses a couple down the stretch, I think most fans will give CJP a pass.

 

[Jack Burton]

Even Hugh Freeze never won all of Hugh Freeze’s games.

Whatever that % was I’ll take it right now without looking.

 

[Dudleys87]

A dildo salesman?

No, that was ole boy over at Ohio State. Hell he had stock in the company I believe lol

 

[Devo182]

Games aren’t played in a vacuum though. Losing to Ark would be the 4th in a row and we’d be spiraling down further. Eventually we need to get some momentum back on our side and hopefully it starts with Arkansas.

They aren't and a loss could hurt our mindset...that would be tested. But a loss fundamentally doesn't change a single thing about the team either. Maybe we buck up like we did after Arky 2015 or UGA game last year. There are no hard and fast rules, no transitive property, and each week is different. No one is saying it would be a positive, but it's not a must-have with so many winnable games left.

 

[beneVOLence]

I think we beat Auburn as long as we don’t turn it over like the Ky game. I just think CJP knows how to defend Gus’s offense. We just need some offense of our own to win that game.

 

[Dudleys87]

Whatever that % was I’ll take it right now without looking.

Whether it be lying, cheating, stealing etc hes done something twice that Tennessee has not in many years.

 

[jakez4ut]

They aren't and a loss could hurt our mindset...that would be tested. But a loss fundamentally doesn't change a single thing about the team either. Maybe we buck up like we did after Arky 2015 or UGA game last year. There are no hard and fast rules, no transitive property, and each week is different. No one is saying it would be a positive, but it's not a must-have with so many winnable games left.

agree wtih all this.

and i'll still be the first to say, all those winnable games look less so after a loss to Ark. Ark doesn't look as winnable because of UK.....etc, etc, etc........

 

[Smokeytom]

Bad take on the hills, I agree. Just get tired of the group think. Even on recruiting, which is the section we are in. Some guys that commit are allowed to suck or not be the next Cam Sutton 3*. Maybe they do indeed look like s*** and are lowly rated for a reason. I got ripped for saying that extension we gave Pruitt was a bad idea. I'd love for someone to come in here and say Harrison Bailey looks like complete garbage at practice and there's a reason he's on the bench.

“JuSt GeT TiReD oF tHe GroUp THinK (on this rival message board)”

 

[HalfullVol]

No way would I ever trust #2 to keep me employed as a HC making $4 million a year. Yet, that is probably what Jeremy is going to do. Which tells me somebody above him is recommending it.

it's not like UT is gonna have fans boycotting attending games would make a statement. with the limited seating, Covid19 and all this is a mulligan year to some degree - like it or not

 

[Devo182]

agree wtih all this.

and i'll still be the first to say, all those winnable games look less so after a loss to Ark. Ark doesn't look as winnable because of UK.....etc, etc, etc........

Certainly agree a loss has its predictive properties no doubt and it would hurt our remaining chances...though degree varies widely. Margins are important. Winning/losing vs Arky by 1 means very little and changes the remaining outcomes very little. But winning/losing by 20 means a lot more for future likelihoods.

Which is why losing to UK by 27 was so much worse for what may be to come than had it been a close game...but still only 1 instance and full of anomalistic plays (and play for play the game was close).

 

[Blake25p]

Something I haven’t thought about is we’re under two months until Early Signing day, will be here before you know it.

 

[RikidyBones]

Lol! Soccer players can be the biggest girls. But you are taught that if someone even remotely touches you to flop in the box to get a pk. Some just like to roll around and try to sell it more than others. Lol.

Played soccer in college and was never taught to flop.

 

[Weezer]

As long as JG doesn't melt down again, I think we beat Arkansas. But therein lies the problem. JG is such a huge question mark. There is no consistency and you have no idea which JG you're going to get from game to game. I don't care if it's Sister Mary's School of Blind Travelling Nuns, we cannot survive turnover monster JG in any game. I really wish Pruitt would play another QB, if for no other reason than my sanity.

 

[Weezer]

Something I haven’t thought about is we’re under two months until Early Signing day, will be here before you know it.

I've thought of it. Keep hoping we make it there without any high profile decommitments.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Played soccer in college and was never taught to flop.

Come on man. Of course not. Our coach never discussed flopping. I’m talking about when you are young. I remember my first travel team coach always telling us to go down in the box if we were ever touched. Shoot my ODP coach asked me once why I didn’t go down when I was fouled from behind. I said I wanted to score and thought I could still score. I was probably nine or ten.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

As long as JG doesn't melt down again, I think we beat Arkansas. But therein lies the problem. JG is such a huge question mark. There is no consistency and you have no idea which JG you're going to get from game to game. I don't care if it's Sister Mary's School of Blind Travelling Nuns, we cannot survive turnover monster JG in any game. I really wish Pruitt would play another QB, if for no other reason than my sanity.

Preach brother!

 

[RikidyBones]

Come on man. Of course not. Our coach never discussed flopping. I’m talking about when you are young. I remember my first travel team coach always telling us to go down in the box if we were ever touched. Shoot my ODP coach asked me once why I didn’t go down when I was fouled from behind. I said I wanted to score and thought I could still score. I was probably nine or ten.

Lol nope. Never was told anything of the sort. We had guys that pulled that on the team. I played CAM btw. I'm familiar with some coaches doing that, to your point but I was not ever told to go down on contact. I've always had coaches who taught us to be physical though.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Is the Arkansas game the most important game of Pruitts head coach career so far? I think so. I believe if he played someone other than JG at QB then it wouldn’t be since fans and recruits would know we’re playing for the future. Since JG is starting (more than likely), it is a must win or I think we will see a lot of fans turn on him and recruiting will take a hit. We would be realistically looking at a 3-4 win season. It is a must win.

Its a bad look, but there aren't any must wins for Pruitt this year imo. Hes not getting fired bar some wild off the field issue we never saw coming. Next year will or at least should be the year of judgement.

 

[Jackcrevol]

As long as JG doesn't melt down again, I think we beat Arkansas. But therein lies the problem. JG is such a huge question mark. There is no consistency and you have no idea which JG you're going to get from game to game. I don't care if it's Sister Mary's School of Blind Travelling Nuns, we cannot survive turnover monster JG in any game. I really wish Pruitt would play another QB, if for no other reason than my sanity.

injuries and 'graduation' (NFL or real) kilt us.

 

[UTSuave’]

As long as JG doesn't melt down again, I think we beat Arkansas. But therein lies the problem. JG is such a huge question mark. There is no consistency and you have no idea which JG you're going to get from game to game. I don't care if it's Sister Mary's School of Blind Travelling Nuns, we cannot survive turnover monster JG in any game. I really wish Pruitt would play another QB, if for no other reason than my sanity.

Weezer is Pruitt.