Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[volatil]

My neighbor's dog?

Yes

 

[jakez4ut]

Unless the dead period is extended (which is likely), i can see a lot of kids waiting till NSD so they can do their OV's.

there's no gurantees visits will be happening this year. i think a lot of kids will just want to get it over with.....jmo.

 

[Weezer]

Basilio just brought up a good point. Since our last game is now pushed to 12/12, and with the early signing day on 12/16, UT is going to have to make a decision soon on Pruitt one way or the other. Making a decision right after the season ends may be too late or compacted given the circumstances. If you are going to make a change, you probably need to be working on a back door deal now.

There's no decision to be made. Pruitt will be the coach of UT next year. All of this talk of Freeze or anyone else is just angry posters venting. The university is not going to fire Pruitt this year when they can claim COVID as an excuse. They're not going to eat that buyout this year. Just not going to happen. We, as fans, can bitch all we want, but Fulmer doesn't care what we think. The university admin does not care what we think. Pruitt will continue to be out head coach, so we might as well suck it up and accept it.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

My wife sure will be happy when I completely check out on UT football. It’s coming fast.

 

[jakez4ut]

Bad. Freeze owned up to his mistakes

well, there are some simliarities.......

 

[VolGee4]

i thought that was UCF? oh well.

I think UCF is on campus.

 

[Batman1948]

Didn’t we add an extra practice field so we could get guys more reps????

You can have 10 practice fields but if you don't have enough players available to practice--it doesn't matter

 

[jakez4ut]

I think UCF is on campus.

yeah, i think that's it.

 

[jakez4ut]

You can have 10 practice fields but if you don't have enough players available to practice--it doesn't matter

that does make a difference.

 

[LA Vol]

So that’s it? We just sit here for two years with the wrong guy. While some lucky school gets to pick up a winner right away. Phillip Fulmer is part of the ruin of UT football, he gave us a lot of good times but all this has seriously hurt his legacy here and will tarnish his name in my eyes. Not that that matters. It’s just infuriating that we have to sit here for two more years playing trash football. What will they do when nobody shows up next year? Also if Pruitt is that divisive cut bait now. I haven’t heard much good about him from you all in the know...

It isn't all on Fulmer. UT was in a tough spot the last time around. Fulmer has taken a lot of the fundraising, PR and donor stuff off Pruitt's plate-- he does a lot more than most ADs would do, and he's very good at it. And UT has spared no expense hiring experienced assistants and a large admin staff. In three years, Pruitt should have learned to be a decent CEO who can delegate effectively to a staff he hand-picked to work with him. Personality, temperament, personnel management and leadership are all part of the HC job. If a guy isn't a natural, he'd better learn fast, especially at a high-profile program with the passion and expectations of UT.

 

[jakez4ut]

This sucks. I want full scale Hughmors. We need and insider to fan the flames just to make it more real. Freeze and SCjr is going to suck though....

i wanna win.

 

[BAJAvol]

If you want the boosters to step in and force the issue, it's going to take a loss to vanderbilt.

 

[SLICKYINC]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Thank you LA, it was very tough but she's in a better place and dad has the freedom to live out his last days. I miss her and think of her often but know she's not suffering any longer.

I've/we've missed you. So glad you chose to post again. Please hang around.

 

[Weezer]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Apparently, Fulmer has done a pretty ****** job of mentoring him. Someone should let him know that.

 

[LA Vol]

Yes

His bite is worse than his bark.

 

[Volsdeep4]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Welcome back! Thank you for posting. Hope all is well. Your insights are always clarity in muggy times

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

god dangit we will suck forever

 

[jakez4ut]

It isn't all on Fulmer. UT was in a tough spot the last time around. Fulmer has taken a lot of the fundraising, PR and donor stuff off Pruitt's plate-- he does a lot more than most ADs would do, and he's very good at it. And UT has spared no expense hiring experienced assistants and a large admin staff. In three years, Pruitt should have learned to be a decent CEO who can delegate effectively to a staff he hand-picked to work with him. Personality, temperament, personnel management and leadership are all part of the HC job. If a guy isn't a natural, he'd better learn fast, especially at a high-profile program with the passion and expectations of UT.

you say hand picked....i think it's fair to say that there were at least a couple candidates he wanted, he was not able to hire..........and money wasn't the issue.....speaking on the offensive side of hte ball that is....or no? i don't know how far along talks got with Freeze for OC or Briles for OC....but it's at least my understanding that there were roadblocks from the UT side of things that hampered either of those from happening....maybe moreso in teh case of briles than freeze? either way...curious about that.

 

[butchna]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

How about our long-snapper?

 

[KB5252]

It isn't all on Fulmer. UT was in a tough spot the last time around. Fulmer has taken a lot of the fundraising, PR and donor stuff off Pruitt's plate-- he does a lot more than most ADs would do, and he's very good at it. And UT has spared no expense hiring experienced assistants and a large admin staff. In three years, Pruitt should have learned to be a decent CEO who can delegate effectively to a staff he hand-picked to work with him. Personality, temperament, personnel management and leadership are all part of the HC job. If a guy isn't a natural, he'd better learn fast, especially at a high-profile program with the passion and expectations of UT.

Do you think it possible the media stories fanning flames is the result of donors attempting to put pressure on Fulmer to cut bait..... Or is it organic IYO?

 

[Dudley Smith]

And here it is...

Isn't Liberty still paying a buyout on Jerry Falwell, Jr.?

 

[OrangeBoll]

Ray = RayUGA

 

[jakez4ut]

If you want the boosters to step in and force the issue, it's going to take a loss to vanderbilt.

Butch Jones, 2016...prolly.

 

[Volsdeep4]

Ray = RayUGA

My thoughts exactly. He’s been in it the whole time. First he got Cade cleared, now back dooring Pruitt.