Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[TN-POSSUM]

capital letter game not so much.

another applicant for editor...awsome.

I didn't even notice the lack of capital letters.......lol

carry on, twas a compliment only

 

[LA Vol]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

 

[volfaninpa]

From the Athletic:

"but Freeze has already been fired once, and it wasn’t for losing games. And he’s landed on his feet. And I’m sure he will again if the next job goes south. As we learned with Bobby Petrino, there’s no such thing as too much shame for a school that desperately wants to win football games."

A good/bad comparison to Petrino here.

 

[jakez4ut]

I didn't even notice the lack of capital letters.......lol

carry on

someone else pointed it out earlier... @drvenner i believe.

but you're fired. i mispelled awesome and you didn't catch it....

 

[VolGee4]

Interesting stat about Liberty?

It has the largest enrollment in the United States. Many are online. They have $$$$.

 

[jakez4ut]

From the Athletic:

"but Freeze has already been fired once, and it wasn’t for losing games. And he’s landed on his feet. And I’m sure he will again if the next job goes south. As we learned with Bobby Petrino, there’s no such thing as too much shame for a school that desperately wants to win football games."

A good/bad comparison to Petrino here.

ubben?

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Yikes

Well bye Phil.

 

[headhunter15]

From the Athletic:

"but Freeze has already been fired once, and it wasn’t for losing games. And he’s landed on his feet. And I’m sure he will again if the next job goes south. As we learned with Bobby Petrino, there’s no such thing as too much shame for a school that desperately wants to win football games."

A good/bad comparison to Petrino here.

Just win, baby!

 

[volinbama256]

If Fulmer hadn't given Pruitt an extension, Freeze wouldn't take his extension and would be headed this way... dammit phil!

 

[volfaninpa]

ubben?

Mandel's mailbag.

 

[Batman1948]

Some people have f u dough, and I’m over here eating my leftovers.

Like I mentioned in an earlier post, it's always easier to give away millions of dollars when it belongs to the wealthy. I wouldn't give a dime to help buy out a coach's contract. I worked too hard for the money I have and if I'm giving any of it up it's to help the less fortunate.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Seriously screw Phillip Fulmer.

 

[Jimmy Football]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Great to see you back, LA.

Btw, have you heard about Ray?

 

[jakez4ut]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

good to see you back around.

 

[Gilbert]

Basilio just brought up a good point. Since our last game is now pushed to 12/12, and with the early signing day on 12/16, UT is going to have to make a decision soon on Pruitt one way or the other. Making a decision right after the season ends may be too late or compacted given the circumstances. If you are going to make a change, you probably need to be working on a back door deal now.

 

[BAJAvol]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Nice to see you back LA

 

[Batman1948]

can I get a summary of wtf is going on

Volnation has imploded and everyone is trying to hire Freeze. That's about it.

 

[LA Vol]

Great to see you back, LA.

Btw, have you heard about Ray?

My neighbor's dog?

 

[Smokeytom]

Freeze is holding out for the UT job. Nice.

 

[KPT_VFL]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

So that’s it? We just sit here for two years with the wrong guy. While some lucky school gets to pick up a winner right away. Phillip Fulmer is part of the ruin of UT football, he gave us a lot of good times but all this has seriously hurt his legacy here and will tarnish his name in my eyes. Not that that matters. It’s just infuriating that we have to sit here for two more years playing trash football. What will they do when nobody shows up next year? Also if Pruitt is that divisive cut bait now. I haven’t heard much good about him from you all in the know...

 

[jakez4ut]

Basilio just brought up a good point. Since our last game is now pushed to 12/12, and with the early signing day on 12/16, UT is going to have to make a decision soon on Pruitt one way or the other. Making a decision right after the season ends may be too late or compacted given the circumstances. If you are going to make a change, you probably need to be working on a back door deal now.

another reason why NOTHING is changing this season...and there's absolutely zero chance fulmer fires a guy in season, considering that's what happened to him...and we know what he thought about that.

 

[Smokeytom]

Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.

Hey LAVol nice to see you aga-

 

[Leeleesteeth]

From the Athletic:

"but Freeze has already been fired once, and it wasn’t for losing games. And he’s landed on his feet. And I’m sure he will again if the next job goes south. As we learned with Bobby Petrino, there’s no such thing as too much shame for a school that desperately wants to win football games."

A good/bad comparison to Petrino here.

Bad. Freeze owned up to his mistakes

 

[johnfnkelly]

Basilio just brought up a good point. Since our last game is now pushed to 12/12, and with the early signing day on 12/16, UT is going to have to make a decision soon on Pruitt one way or the other. Making a decision right after the season ends may be too late or compacted given the circumstances. If you are going to make a change, you probably need to be working on a back door deal now.

Unless the dead period is extended (which is likely), i can see a lot of kids waiting till NSD so they can do their OV's.

 

[jakez4ut]

Interesting stat about Liberty?

It has the largest enrollment in the United States. Many are online. They have $$$$.

i thought that was UCF? oh well.