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No reason to delay the inevitable. This coaching staff is full of clowns who can’t coach and are just sucky human beings.

I get it the total buyouts are high but this **** show has to end.

Go out and hire a proven head coach to attempt to right this ship.
 
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LA Vol said:
Hope everyone is well. @InVOLuntary someone on the board told me about about your mother. I was so sorry to hear that. What a tough road that was--for her and your family.

For anyone who cares-- Pruitt was hired with the implicit agreement that he would be given five years. There was consensus that UT couldn’t afford to make another coaching change in less than five years and that the new HC needed five years to rebuild a badly damaged program. Pruitt was Fulmer’s guy, and his hiring came with the expectation-- and assurance-- that Fulmer would use his experience to help Pruitt scale the learning curve, and together they could return UT to respectability within five years. If not, then UT would be recruiting well and be in a good position to make the necessary changes.

Pruitt wasn’t ready for a job as big, difficult and demanding as UT’s. Being a great DC doesn't make him good enough at the many facets of the HC job and he won’t be good enough for a while, if ever. Many donors and board members felt that UT should hire an experienced HC for a massive rebuild with high expectations and an impatient fanbase. Fulmer went way out on a limb for Pruitt, and UT unified behind him. Pruitt has been a disappointment and he’s a divisive personality. He’s pissed off a lot of people, so UT is no longer unified.

The easy solution is what needs to be done eventually is best done immediately. But Sexton negotiated a sweetheart deal for Pruitt, and Fulmer doubled down. Fulmer is tied to Pruitt, so don’t expect him to do anything except publicly stand behind this coaching staff. And don't expect a lot of donors to be okay with that.

Buying out assistants with longer-term contracts would be throwing money at the wrong solution. Either fix the problem or ride it out another year or two.
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nicksjuzunk said:
If not Freeze, the list will be something like the following:

1. Dave Doeren
2. Will Healy
3. Random ACC OC
4. Random Sunbelt head coach

Prove me wrong
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My opinion is the "Freeze wants this job" stuff is slightly overblown. I'm sure he wants it - but just as much as he wants any SEC job not named Vanderbilt. So, while Auburn and South Carolina are the most likely to have openings, I would not be surprised if we get a "shock" opening at Mississippi State or LSU. I could also see Virginia Tech opening up and being attractive to him.

I say all that to say, even if our job is available, I have full confidence we would lose a bidding war, or decide not to participate in one for someone sketchy like Freeze to begin with.

So, I think your list is probably pretty accurate, although I do think this is as attractive this job has been since 2009.
 
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volfaninpa said:
From the Athletic:

"but Freeze has already been fired once, and it wasn’t for losing games. And he’s landed on his feet. And I’m sure he will again if the next job goes south. As we learned with Bobby Petrino, there’s no such thing as too much shame for a school that desperately wants to win football games."

A good/bad comparison to Petrino here.
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Mmm k

I’ll take the wins, thanks
 
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LynxVol said:
If Weinke goes, that may mean Simpson goes to Bama. Just judging from what TOS has said.
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Oh well. If there’s anything I’ve learned in these last 20+ years following UT football, especially the last 10, it’s that coaching matters and Chris Weinke sucks at developing talent. Most of this staff sucks. Adios to them all! Fulmer can go too if he doesn’t agree.

I’m tired of supporting a loser program. It’s going to take elite coaching to turn this around, not a top tier QB being coached by losers. We’ve had enough of that nonsense.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Oh well. If there’s anything I’ve learned in these last 20+ years following UT football, especially the last 10, it’s that coaching matters and Chris Weinke sucks at developing talent. Most of this staff sucks. Adios to them all! Fulmer can go too if he doesn’t agree.

I’m tired of supporting a loser program. It’s going to take elite coaching to turn this around, not a top tier QB being coached by losers. We’ve had enough of that nonsense.
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I can’t believe we thought we had one of the best staffs in America
 
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Is Chaney the worst hire in terms of value for the money in the history of UT football?

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I don't think UT has an appetite for cleaning house this year. If some coaches don't want to be here, it's a win-win for UT to help them find their way to another school or the NFL, as we have done in the past.

The only thing UT wants less than a coaching search is a public, drawn-out coaching search. The current administration will want a succession plan in place to avoid another public fiasco. With the positive way last year ended and this year started, potential coaching searches at the HC or coordinator levels weren't even on UT's radar. Factor in the pandemic, the financial shortfall, Fulmer standing behind Pruitt and the way Boyd prefers to do business... no cleaning house.
 
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LA Vol said:
I don't think UT has an appetite for cleaning house this year. If some coaches don't want to be here, it's a win-win for UT to help them find their way to another school or the NFL, as we have done in the past.

The only thing UT wants less than a coaching search is a public, drawn-out coaching search. The current administration will want a succession plan in place to avoid another public fiasco. With the positive way last year ended and this year started, potential coaching searches at the HC or coordinator levels weren't even on UT's radar. Factor in the pandemic, the financial shortfall, Fulmer standing behind Pruitt and the way Boyd prefers to do business... no cleaning house.
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Easy solution. Fire Pruitt, hire Freeze the next day. Done.
 
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LA Vol said:
I don't think UT has an appetite for cleaning house this year. If some coaches don't want to be here, it's a win-win for UT to help them find their way to another school or the NFL, as we have done in the past.

The only thing UT wants less than a coaching search is a public, drawn-out coaching search. The current administration will want a succession plan in place to avoid another public fiasco. With the positive way last year ended and this year started, potential coaching searches at the HC or coordinator levels weren't even on UT's radar. Factor in the pandemic, the financial shortfall, Fulmer standing behind Pruitt and the way Boyd prefers to do business... no cleaning house.
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Put it off a year and lose even more money. They're about to over pay for every assistant they hire this off season. No need for a search, get your guy before you make the move.
 
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