Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Weezer]

Some of y’all are apparently the most miserable, cynical people you can be.

Welcome to Vol football, lol.

 

[Weezer]

I feel like you could do one of those pre-meth and post-meth photos and it would also describe a UT football fan.

 

[butchna]

HB will probably struggle a little in a first start. Just stay the course with him and let him learn. We can't clamor for him to start then get pissed off if he struggles.

Or pull him at first glitch and replace him with an experienced struggler...worked aces so far this season.

 

[jakez4ut]

Wow. Pruitt said that he was giving his coaches who took a pay cut money out of his own pocket to supplement their income. Has to get approval from the NCAA first, but that is quite a gesture. He really is a good dude.

i think, now having heard the press conf, he was not necessarily talking about just coaches, but apparently others under the football umbrella that had to take paycuts...you know, regular people, with regular paying jobs....lol.

which is even, by a lot, cooler....

 

[jakez4ut]

Or pull him at first glitch and replace him with an experienced struggler...worked aces so far this season.

worked last year............lol.

 

[Batman1948]

i do agree with that. i don't think anyone expects to beat Auburn, aTm or Florida. but a loss to Vandy would kinda be a dealbreaker for many....the dynamic changes, i believe, if that were to happen.

I don't think it matters much as long as we play HB and some of the other promising freshmen the rest of the season. I could handle getting beat now if we're building for the future. I think most UT fans would be ok with that.

 

[Mccage]

I've killed all my chickens and drank over 10 gallon of blood in the last 15 years. That Hex is powerful.

 

[butchna]

worked last year............lol.

It actually did. That’s why Pruitt’s held on too long this season imo.

 

[jakez4ut]

It actually did. That’s why Pruitt’s held on too long this season imo.

hard to argue against. i commended the job they did last year with the QB situation....but that's not in the book of "how it's done" lol.....

 

[BruinVol]

It actually did. That’s why Pruitt’s held on too long this season imo.

Not really.
he really didn’t do it the same way as last year. JG hasn’t come off the bench like last year

 

[butchna]

I don't think it matters much as long as we play HB and some of the other promising freshmen the rest of the season. I could handle getting beat now if we're building for the future. I think most UT fans would be ok with that.

Pruitt needs to show the capacity to adjust when mass issues occur. Part of that may be not interjecting himself into EVERYTHING.

 

[Jack Burton]

It’s an even worse look to call ones self a “fan” but do nothing more than talk about wanting your coach fired. There’s no wonder that we can’t pull a game changer kind of coach. They wouldn’t touch this fan base with Rick Pitino’s dick and blame it on Bobby Petrino.

Yeah, it’s the fans fault we hired Dooley, Butch, and Pruitt. Reading Volnation really turned off the elite coaches.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

We're going to Start HB and score 50 points, and everyone is going to be pissed because we didn't see him earlier right?

 

[Batman1948]

i think, now having heard the press conf, he was not necessarily talking about just coaches, but apparently others under the football umbrella that had to take paycuts...you know, regular people, with regular paying jobs....lol.

which is even, by a lot, cooler....

I don't think that falls under the NCAA guidelines as being legal. Barnes tried to pay one of his assistants extra money, out of his pocket, to bring him in line with his other assistants and the NCAA stopped that. They're funny about money

 

[Aesius]

Yeah, it’s the fans fault we hired Dooley, Butch, and Pruitt. Reading Volnation really turned off the elite coaches.

There's always one "it's the fans' fault!" guy when have to fire/hire someone.

 

[jakez4ut]

I don't think it matters much as long as we play HB and some of the other promising freshmen the rest of the season. I could handle getting beat now if we're building for the future. I think most UT fans would be ok with that.

i think TN fans are tired of a lot of things.

tired of losing period.

tired of losing to Vandy...1 time is 1 time too many...we've done it enough to last a couple lifetimes over the past 10 years.

tired of coaching searches

these things go hand in hand, but i have wondered if the sheer volume of losing over the past 10 ears has numbed many to what's expectd, vs. what's been realistic....especially at the end of some of these coaches' tenures, and beginning of the new guy's....

once it's determined the current guy sucks enough to be fired, chances are you've seen evidence of suck for a couple seasons....fire the guy...chances are the program isn't in good enough shape to do anything of consequence for at least a couple years. so for every replaced coach, figure minimum of 4 years of suck, or close to it in total.

and we've done that 3 times. that's a lot of suck....

 

[LynxVol]

VFL’s and others like Chaney. He was successful here before and believe he can be again. I don’t believe the “Chaney doesn’t like Bailey.” Pruitt dictates who plays QB and he always plays JG. People are coming up with reasons why we aren’t playing Harrison and it is mostly because of our head coach.

I agree - I don't believe that Chaney doesn't like Bailey either. I do think it is also Chaney's job to work with JG's limitations. Personally, I don't think Chaney has performed well this year. I just think it is an easy excuse to say that Pruitt is a power hungry micro-manager.

Blame can be spread, and Pruitt takes ultimate responsibility. I think it has been a mistake not to get Bailey more reps (in practice and in game) since the UK game.

 

[butchna]

We're going to Start HB and score 50 points, and everyone is going to be pissed because we didn't see him earlier right?

Well...yeah? Chaney has previous experience with Matt Simms to Tyler Bray.

 

[jakez4ut]

I don't think that falls under the NCAA guidelines as being legal. Barnes tried to pay one of his assistants extra money, out of his pocket, to bring him in line with his other assistants and the NCAA stopped that. They're funny about money

well, he said they were appealing it wiht the NCAA, so it's not "done" yet....they're basically asking for permission to do so.

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

Well...yeah? Chaney has previous experience with Matt Simms to Tyler Bray.

That was such a difference wasn't it. Offense looked completely different overnight with a change at one position. AP has said that CJC has been holding back much of his offensive plays because he has no confidence in JG to throw the plays. That, in turn, has made our offense bland. The hope is once the QB changes, the playbook opens and we become dynamic again.

 

[butchna]

That was such a difference wasn't it. Offense looked completely different overnight with a change at one position.

Immediately! And it was after similar rhetoric from Dooley about Bray not being ready. Fans expressed concern because of his weight and lankiness. Now he had the advantage of enrolling early (actually participated in previous bowl practice) and traditional spring/Fall camp work...but the same held true that the starter wasn’t getting it done.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Hey SC, here’s a sitting HC for you

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

We're going to Start HB and score 50 points, and everyone is going to be pissed because we didn't see him earlier right?

I hope so

 

[ionaVOL]

I don't have any specific examples to point to, but I think the take on Pruitt and his offense is slightly off. I gather from hearing past interviews and reading articles that he actually wants to have an offense that dials up the explosive pass plays and makes chunk gains by pushing the ball downfield. I think it probably frustrates him as much or more than us to watch our "offense" these days. I get the impression that he is more upset when our QB's don't take shots downfield and that's at least partly why JG has been getting the call this season.

Now I don't think that its entirely the other QB's faults. I think ball security is obviously stressed as the most important factor and I think those guys are probably so scarred about even the thought of what will come their way if they turn it over they are gun shy on taking shots downfield. For example, after HB's checkdown drive against Ark I think Pruitt was more upset he didn't pick a spot and take at least a deep shot over the middle or sideline at some point till it was too late and he forced the pick in the endzone.

I'm probably way off base here, but IMO I don't think Pruitt wants to run 40+ times a game, I think he wants to push the ball downfield in the pass game and be explosive, we just don't have the capacity to do it right now consistently. Whether its because most of our WRs can't get separation, our protection isn't good enough or our QBs dont trust themselves to execute and let it fly and risk it. Probably a combo of all those factors. Feel like I just see too many play calls that are designed to take a shot deep and for whatever reason the ball never gets out there.

TL;DR - I'm reaching here and hoping for the best, please save us #MariettaTatterTosser5

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Hey SC, here’s a sitting HC for you

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