Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Neyland Law Vol]

Guys its possible that HB's going to play well Saturday and we win 2 in a row heading into UF game with a chance to upset them.

The coaching search stuff is premature. Let's see where we are at in mid December with the wins and losses and the recruiting class.

 

[jakez4ut]

Crossing up the T and H always grabs my attention.

gettin' old. what can i say....i definitley don't care about spelling anymore. lol. i'm here for the context.

 

[jakez4ut]

Guys its possible that HB's going to play well Saturday and we win 2 in a row heading into UF game with a chance to upset them.

The coaching search stuff is premature. Let's see where we are at in mid December with the wins and losses and the recruiting class.

 

[UpstateVol613]

Is he a good OL coach and can he recruit?

Obviously hits harder than our offensive lineman.

 

[Dooby15]

Lowe: Tenn a job that Freeze wants

Hubbs: wouldn’t rule out Freeze if a coaching search occurred (we know what that means)

USCjr mods: Freeze likes UT job

Freeze is making it known what he wants without having to say a word. I think he waits it out for UT. Hopefully we don’t screw it up.

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

Lowe: Tenn a job that Freeze wants

Hubbs: wouldn’t rule out Freeze if a coaching search occurred (we know what that means)

USCjr mods: Freeze likes UT job

Freeze is making it known what he wants without having to say a word. I think he waits it out for UT. Hopefully we don’t screw it up.

I don't see it happening unless we lose out

 

[05_never_again]

I don't see it happening unless we lose out

And even then, I think it only becomes possible (not probable at that point). There's no way he's fired this year if he wins at least one other game.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[Neyland Law Vol]

One thing to keep in mind on the premature coaching search discussion, Fulmer likely remembers that the way UT took off under his watch was that the AD at the time did not wait too long to make a change and allowed CPF to take over a stable growing program (rather than waiting another few years and then making a change when things would possibly have degraded). The AD fired CJM after only three losses in 1992, not because that warranted termination of an arguably HOF level coach, but because the AD knew he had an upgrade available (CPF at OC) and could lose him if the AD didn't act immediately. That has to inform Fulmer's decisions, right?

In the hypothetical, if Fulmer knows through agents that Freeze is ready to come if he wants him, does that make him move regardless of what Pruitt does these remaining games? I think it would be easier to say yes he moves regardless if Freeze didn't have some much NCAA baggage.

 

[BruinVol]

 

[LoudOrange]

One thing to keep in mind on the premature coaching search discussion, Fulmer likely remembers that the way UT took off under his watch was that the AD at the time did not wait too long to make a change and allowed CPF to take over a stable growing program. The AD fired CJM after only three losses, not because that warranted termination of an arguably HOF level coach, but because the AD knew he had an upgrade available and could lose him (fulmer) if the AD didn't act immediately. That has to inform Fulmer's decisions, right?

I think Hamilton firing him weighs heavier on his mind.

 

[05_never_again]

One thing to keep in mind on the premature coaching search discussion, Fulmer likely remembers that the way UT took off under his watch was that the AD at the time fired CJM after only three losses, not because that warranted termination of an arguably HOF level coach, but because the AD knew he had an upgrade available and could lose him (fulmer) if the AD didn't act immediately. That has to inform Fulmer's decisions, right?

I doubt it. Fulmer of course supported his own emergence to HC over Johnny because it benefited him. I don't think Fulmer likes Freeze and it'd be out of character from him to make a bold move like that, especially after this season.

 

[Dooby15]

I don't see it happening unless we lose out

I agree. But Freeze sees the writing on the wall. It’s this year or next. Auburn job might draw him but you don’t hear the Auburn noise for Freeze like we do for UT. If Malzahn had lost to Kentucky and Arkansas like they should have then he would be gone. Malzahn always does just enough to keep his job.

 

[Jack Burton]

Basilio waited until they went off the air and it was app only to mention this. In covering the Vols since the early 90s he’s never seen a staff in more disarray than this one. Things are even worse than under Butch and that’s saying something. Coaches didn’t want to take a pay cut because they know they won’t be here for long.

 

[drvenner]

Two dudes had a peeing contest over who was the most dedicated fan. Took them 5 pages to get in the last word. Jakez4ut rewrote War and Peace a couple of times. Bassmaster doesn't like Weinke. Same old stuff.

Don't you meant that jake wrote

war and peace (no caps)?

 

[drvenner]

It is a real bummer when you have to work at work.

I am working remotely this week. Makes me put in extra time so that I don't feel like I am slacking for my pay check.

 

[Weezer]

Work is crazy. I see that I am about 25 pages behind. Please, I need a VN fix and cliffs!! TIA.

Just read my posts, they're the only quality ones anyway....

 

[Jack Burton]

I don't see it happening unless we lose out

Losing out is probable. We’re mainly thinking that our only remaining victory is Vandy, but we play below our talent level so even that game is in question.

 

[drvenner]

Very telling. Fire Ansley now. I like the dude, but he has not developed any DB and his defensive calls leave a lot to be desired.

 

[drvenner]

Just read my posts, they're the only quality ones anyway....

I work in Quality and I know Quality when I see Quality.

Your posts are very quality compared to many others on here.

 

[Weezer]

One thing to keep in mind on the premature coaching search discussion, Fulmer likely remembers that the way UT took off under his watch was that the AD at the time did not wait too long to make a change and allowed CPF to take over a stable growing program (rather than waiting another few years and then making a change when things would possibly have degraded). The AD fired CJM after only three losses in 1992, not because that warranted termination of an arguably HOF level coach, but because the AD knew he had an upgrade available (CPF at OC) and could lose him if the AD didn't act immediately. That has to inform Fulmer's decisions, right?

In the hypothetical, if Fulmer knows through agents that Freeze is ready to come if he wants him, does that make him move regardless of what Pruitt does these remaining games? I think it would be easier to say yes he moves regardless if Freeze didn't have some much NCAA baggage.

Lot more to that story...

 

[Kingston Vol]

Basilio waited until they went off the air and it was app only to mention this. In covering the Vols since the early 90s he’s never seen a staff in more disarray than this one. Things are even worse than under Butch and that’s saying something. Coaches didn’t want to take a pay cut because they know they won’t be here for long.

I think Basilio is a blowhard but this info fits my narrative so I choose to believe it.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Stud

 

[Gilbert]

I keep seeing people saying he has to lose out to get fired. What’s the difference in losing out and going 1-3 with a win over Vandy? Is that supposed to be some big accomplishment? 1-3 is the most likely scenario.

 

[Catbone]

Lowe: Tenn a job that Freeze wants

Hubbs: wouldn’t rule out Freeze if a coaching search occurred (we know what that means)

USCjr mods: Freeze likes UT job

Freeze is making it known what he wants without having to say a word. I think he waits it out for UT. Hopefully we don’t screw it up.

You know we will.