Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[TN-POSSUM]

Who out of our previous realistic candidates going back to 2009 would have actually done well here long-term?

I think Patterson and Kelly are about it. Even Cut would have been fired by now. What's sad is we could have had Patterson or Kelly in late 2008 because the job was still really good.

Patterson is who I wanted the last 2 coaching hires. I think he would have done well here, he would have probably won 2-3 division titles and maybe 1 SEC championship. He's had some PR trouble at TCU since we've hired Pruitt and is probably ready for a change of scenery. I think he'd be a good hire but I want a head coach that's had success in the SEC.

 

[VolsNUT]

I honestly think our expectations diminish considerably if Pruitt is retained (which I do think happens). I know I will have very little optimism going into next season. But what NEEDS to happen over the off-season to instill some hope?

Defense:
- bring in Bo Davis (or equivalent)
- move on from Ashley, bring in Muschamp (that hurts to type, but I think he & Pruitt are tight)
- move Neids back to TE/recruiting coordinator.
- hire a legit LB coach (not sure who is realistic/friends with Pruitt).

Offense:
- fire Chris Weinke inside TBA and charge for tickets to throw tomatoes at him!
- for Will Friend (I doubt this happens unfortunately since he's Pruitts BFF).
- if JG does want to return, set his helmet on fire and stop returning his calls. DONE!!!!
- Chaney isn't going anywhere, but something needs to change with play calling (I'm a fan of Chaney, but he does get predictable).

 

[volatil]

Free agency

 

[butchna]

Here’s my honest question: Is he so far and away the candidate most likely to have success that you’re willing to overlook the baggage?

Or, is it just easy to dismiss that stuff as not a big deal from the outside?

I look at it as PERSONAL “baggage” in which I have no personal interest. If his wife and family got over it, why would it be an insurmountable hill for us?

 

[Kingston Vol]

Will Wade LSU

Well, yeah, that’s a fine example and kinda what I’m getting at. Will Wade hasn’t won anything. So has it been worth it for LSU? Or do they wish they would have taken a shot with someone else?

 

[turdherder11]

Getting love from ESPN announcers on the KY Richmond game. Saying we are final 4 material this season, and loaded. Can't wait! Ky and UT games are going to be jumpin

 

[Kingston Vol]

I’m not worried about getting in trouble with the NCAA or the SEC. I’m really not.

What I’m worried about is getting in trouble and not winning at a level to feel good about it.

I don’t think Freeze is the sure thing you guys think he is, and that’s fine, just a difference of opinions.

If we were talking about a guy who had won the SEC a time or two or made the playoffs, I’d be more inclined to think there’s no chance he could fail.

 

[butchna]

Well, yeah, that’s a fine example and kinda what I’m getting at. Will Wade hasn’t won anything. So has it been worth it for LSU? Or do they wish they would have taken a shot with someone else?

There was a reason the job was available. Previous guy didn’t win enough. Not sure who they passed on who would drive them to drink and wishing.

 

[volatil]

I’m not worried about getting in trouble with the NCAA or the SEC. I’m really not.

What I’m worried about is getting in trouble and not winning at a level to feel good about it.

I don’t think Freeze is the sure thing you guys think he is, and that’s fine, just a difference of opinions.

If we were talking about a guy who had won the SEC a time or two or made the playoffs, I’d be more inclined to think there’s no chance he could fail.

At Ole Miss?

Saban couldn’t even do that

 

[rjd970]

Freeze has beaten both Saban (twice) and Kirby Smart (once). He knows Tennessee high schools. He knows offense. He is a clear upgrade from our current coach. He wants to be here. We have billionaire boosters.

I honestly don’t know wtf we are waiting on. This is ridiculous.

 

[SSVol]

The list of coaches who have beaten Saban twice at Bama is pretty short. That doesn't make it a sure thing, but I like it better than what we've had. Zero chance he gets in NCAA trouble. Our support system is well developed. His hands would stay clean.

 

[butchna]

I’m not worried about getting in trouble with the NCAA or the SEC. I’m really not.

What I’m worried about is getting in trouble and not winning at a level to feel good about it.

I don’t think Freeze is the sure thing you guys think he is, and that’s fine, just a difference of opinions.

If we were talking about a guy who had won the SEC a time or two or made the playoffs, I’d be more inclined to think there’s no chance he could fail.

Who’s floating the “no chance to fail” tag line? We’re looking at the LESS chance angle. Jackie Sherrill had violations at every stop before Mississippi State. He made every one of those programs better than when he arrived. Catch a Pitt Panther or Aggie alumnus on a good day and I doubt they feel bad about his hire.

 

[Kingston Vol]

The list of coaches who have beaten Saban twice at Bama is pretty short. That doesn't make it a sure thing, but I like it better than what we've had. Zero chance he gets in NCAA trouble. Our support system is well developed. His hands would stay clean.

From what I can gather, a lot of Freeze’s problems are related to the fact that Ole Miss couldn’t reign him in to a certain extent and they became increasingly irritated by his attitude and antics.

Now, maybe he’s learned his lesson and will be smarter, but if I were Fulmer, I’d be calling down to Oxford and listening to everyone who was there while he was - if you can’t work with him, you can’t hire him.

 

[snowvols]

The list of coaches who have beaten Saban twice at Bama is pretty short. That doesn't make it a sure thing, but I like it better than what we've had. Zero chance he gets in NCAA trouble. Our support system is well developed. His hands would stay clean.

Yeah, I think it was Meyer, Miles, Dabo, Malzahn, and Freeze and I think that was it. May have missed one.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Yeah, I think it was Meyer, Miles, Dabo, Malzahn, and Freeze and I think that was it. May have missed one.

Maybe Sumlin?

 

[Volunteer21]

 

[volatil]

Can’t do that in a pandemic. So we’ve been told.

Also girl kicker

 

[volfaninpa]

Well, I thought they'd wait until the end of the season.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Tennessee is about to be the only team in the SEC that hangs on to their lame duck coach. Sad

 

[RikidyBones]

Lol. 2020 is something else.

 

[KB5252]

I don't understand Vanderbilt doing this, they can't expect any better if they refuse to give the resources and commitment to an SEC football program. They're doing him a favor.

 

[I4Jay]

A day after getting 10 receptions for 134 yards?

Why risk your NFL future on basically a lost season where there’s a contagious virus?
he did enough, start prepping on for the future

 

[Ron Swanson]

Hopefully Fulmer hurries up and hires Mason to replace Pruitt before someone else does. Right, Kingston?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

When this Florida game goes as expected, TN needs to make the move, its past time and a guy like Freeze should be able to pull together a decent class.

 

[I4Jay]

Vandy firing Mason is reasonable, but naming his OC as interim coach is Insanely funny. That be like Pruitt getting fired then naming Chris Weinke as the interim head coach.