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Smokey123 said:
Small conference to SEC is a whole other animal. Too many coaches have failed. Too many coaches can’t handle the pressure. We need stability so personally I’d take a high floor over an unproven coach with high potential
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I get what your saying about the step up, that's why a coach from that level would have to have the "verifables" I mentioned and I'm definitely not talking about pre-Tennessee Butch record either.

Understand, I'm not totally opposed to Gus. We could definitely do worse. The thought of it just doesn't excite me. Also, IMO Freeze is a better coach than Gus. Is it "head and shoulder"? Maybe not, but what he would do for the fanbase puts him over the finish line first for me...
 
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Smokey123 said:
I’m aware. I was asking a question of if you didn’t want freeze either. He needed some “incredible ish” to happen to win some bigs games too. Especially against Bama
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This. If a coach is good enough to put his team in that position vs Bama late in the game, and to take advantage of the breaks when they come his way, he deserves all credit for the win. Nobody is blowing away Bama anytime soon.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I don’t understand the fascination with Kiffin. He would be lucky to be considered a top 20 HC and cannot be counted to stay anywhere long enough to rebuild a program.
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Based on what?

He went toe to toe with 2 of the best coaches in the country at Tennessee and then like 6 people at his dream job said no and they offered him. We'd literally have no problem if someone did that where we got a coach.

He went 28-15 at sanctions ridden USC and everyone was dying for him to be fired only to watch Sark and Helton not make any major improvements outside of the Rose Bowl season 3.5 seasons after Kiffin and Sark's boozing.

Kiffin went to school with Saban and was easily the best OC in the country under Saban.

Now he was at FAU for 3 seasons where he won better than anything they have done in over a decade. I'm not sure why people would think he would need to stick around a Conference USA school once winning for longer than 3-4 years.......

Kiffin was projected to go 2-3 wins tops this season at best and was a fumble and rigged Auburn game away from winning 6 games this year. Anyone can see that Kiffin is still very creative and can run an offense that will hang points and compete in the SEC. Ole Miss' longest problem has always been defense. If he gets the defense even somewhat manageable, he could have Ole Miss rolling.

I think Kiffin back to Tennessee would actually be the best hire in theory because he is a prick enough to be cocky about rewriting the Lane Kiffin as Tennessee coach story. He also wants to beat the sh!t out of Saban. If Steele doesn't get the job at Auburn, Kiffin would be well on his way if he can hire him to run the defense at Ole Miss.


People who think Kiffin is the same coach as say 2009 - 2013 are cray cray. Kiffin has gained like 40 pounds. No way he still running shenanigans like he did early on in his career.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Based on what?

He went toe to toe with 2 of the best coaches in the country at Tennessee and then like 6 people at his dream job said no and they offered him. We'd literally have no problem if someone did that where we got a coach.

He went 28-15 at sanctions ridden USC and everyone was dying for him to be fired only to watch Sark and Helton not make any major improvements outside of the Rose Bowl season 3.5 seasons after Kiffin and Sark's boozing.

Kiffin went to school with Saban and was easily the best OC in the country under Saban.

Now he was at FAU for 3 seasons where he won better than anything they have done in over a decade. I'm not sure why people would think he would need to stick around a Conference USA school once winning for longer than 3-4 years.......

Kiffin was projected to go 2-3 wins tops this season at best and was a fumble and rigged Auburn game away from winning 6 games this year. Anyone can see that Kiffin is still very creative and can run an offense that will hang points and compete in the SEC. Ole Miss' longest problem has always been defense. If he gets the defense even somewhat manageable, he could have Ole Miss rolling.

I think Kiffin back to Tennessee would actually be the best hire in theory because he is a prick enough to be cocky about rewriting the Lane Kiffin as Tennessee coach story. He also wants to beat the sh!t out of Saban. If Steele doesn't get the job at Auburn, Kiffin would be well on his way if he can hire him to run the defense at Ole Miss.


People who think Kiffin is the same coach as say 2009 - 2013 are cray cray. Kiffin has gained like 40 pounds. No way he still running shenanigans like he did early on in his career.
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So your using weight as one of the reasons that Kiffin would be a better HC now than 10 plus years ago. That’s a good one. You are one credible dude. Lol!
Edit: Kiffin is overrated and only had one stop where he had good success: Florida Atlantic
Run out of town with the Raiders and USC(his dream job). He is unreliable to stay and rebuild a program if he could even do it. A good coordinater like Pruitt but HC at a P5 school is above his talent level just like Pruitt.
 
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m1al said:
I get what your saying about the step up, that's why a coach from that level would have to have the "verifables" I mentioned and I'm definitely not talking about pre-Tennessee Butch record either.

Understand, I'm not totally opposed to Gus. We could definitely do worse. The thought of it just doesn't excite me. Also, IMO Freeze is a better coach than Gus. Is it "head and shoulder"? Maybe not, but what he would do for the fanbase puts him over the finish line first for me...
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I would take Freeze over Gus too. But I think they’re a lot closer than people. Think if we get either of those guys we’ll finally be able to win some games consistently again
 
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